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Senate Will Continue Health Care Debate Through the Weekend
December 4, 2009 - by Donny Shaw
When the Senate began debating health care this week, Majority Leader Sen. Harry Reid [D, NV] announced that they would be working nights and weekends until they pass the bill. Sure enough, Reid announced today that he would be keeping the Senate in session on Saturday and Sunday to continue votes on amendments.
The Democrats’ official calendar hasn’t been updated yet, but The Hill reports that the first order of business on Saturday will be an amendment from Sen. Blanche Lincoln [D, AR], one of the key Democratic swing votes, to limit pay for executives of health insurance companies. A separate piece from The Hill explains:
The amendment would not set healthcare executives’ pay levels, but would reduce a de facto subsidy for their salaries by cutting the amount of money insurers are able to write off as tax deductions per each executive’s salary.
Under current law, companies can claim up to $1 million per executive in annual write-offs. The Lincoln proposal would reduce the write-off to $400,000, the same annual salary as the president draws. According to Lincoln, the bill would also save $651 million in revenue over the next 10 years.
As the Senate has been switching back and forth between Democratic and Republican amendments, the Senate on Saturday will also vote on one from Republicans that has yet to be specified. I’ll update when information on that becomes available.
Debate of the Lincoln amendment and the Republican amendment will begin at 10 a.m. ET and votes are expected to occur around 2:30. Further debate of amendments will take place on Sunday, sometime after noon so senators have time to attend church services if they choose. Votes on Sunday are expected to take place after 6:00 p.m.
Read the Senate health care bill here: H.R. 3590 – Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

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WHY.... let “them” take time to go to CHURCH....- – - It makes NO difference to most of Them!
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this health care bill. We need this system fixed, STAY and get the job done.
I’m for public option, it’s the only way I will ever be able to afford health issue. And more than 99% of the people I know and go to church with either do not have health insurance and can not afford anything that’s on the market as it is today, or will be, since health issue is going up 10% or more every year.
CR
How with this public option be paid for in your opinion? How will it effect our economy? I am sorry that 99% of the people you know don’t have insurance. I understand. I am a single mom and have to pay for my own insurance out of pocket. I DO NOT want the public option. I want our government out of the healthcare business! I understand that if this goes through it will make my life even more difficult and put undo strain on my children and their future. There are things that can and should be done but everything the government is currently in the process of trying to cram down our throats is not anything that I want and those that I work with want. Our economy cannot support what they are proposing.
“I understand that if this goes through it will make my life even more difficult and put undo strain on my children and their future.”
How?
“Our economy cannot support what they are proposing.”
Have you read the CBO report?
Unfortunately, the economy also cannot support the individual health care market. Medicine becomes more advanced every year, and the costs are rising with these advances. This has been the main problem with medicine for the past 60 years, and there’s no reason to think it will stop now.
Within a few decades we’re likely to see some sort of publicly funded health care system come into place quickly once the rich realize that the newest medical technology is impossible for even them to afford on their own, and when health insurance becomes prohibitively expensive to run as a business at any price.
The question is: Do you want to face the rising premiums and falling level of care that marked private insurance practices for the past few decades because you hold the unfortunately impossible belief that 1) it will keep government out of your life in the future, and 2) it will somehow reduce medical costs which rose steadily throughout the 20th century due to new technologies?
Our future will be dominated by GNR, Gentics, Nano Techonlogy and Robotics most people have no idea whats coming at us when quantum computing gets here. You wont be worried about anything to do with this health care bill.
You’ll live to be a 100 and your children could live much longer than that, undervalued people of our country must have a public option to be able to take advantage of the coming technologies that will allow us to live longer better lives.
Do some research on GNR it will really wake you up to what the world will be like in just a few short years.
CR
I’m in some of those fields and honestly it’s not going to be any more paradigm changing than the cell phone was.
Genitics – once this bill goes through and the insurance companies can’t drop you for them – becomes an amazing pre-diagnostic tool. Women with the genes for susceptibility to breast cancer will be asked to get mammograms sooner than normal, men susceptible to prostate cancer the same. There’s a lot of good that can be done with diagnostics and even cures for some genetic issues. Anything beyond that is pure science fiction and will be for at least a few decades to come.
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Nanotechnology – It’s already here and has been for some time now. I’ll bet you haven’t really noticed. Most nanotech is used to enhance existing things (carbon fiber being the most common). There are some things that have moved from Science Fiction into ‘well maybe we can actually do this’ such as the Space Elevator but on the whole the world of nanotech doesn’t look a whole lot different from today.
Robotics – again already here. Did you see the Air Force’s public acknowledgment of a stealth UAV that’s been operational in Afghanistan for some time now? The ongoing future of robotics will look far closer to Asimov than Terminator.
Quantum computing like the others is already in use in some banks for long distance transmitting encrypted data. It’s looking more like Quantum Computers won’t be able to solve P=NP so the huge paradigm shifts that were promised won’t really be there.
I would suggest you do more research and maybe ask some of the people in these fields what they will look like in 5-10 years before you start thinking that our world is going to change more in the next few decades than it has in the last few due to these technologies.
dsauter: “I’m in some of those fields and honestly it’s not going to be any more paradigm changing than the cell phone was.”
You don’t think society has changed significantly in the last 20 years, largely as a result of the cell phone? I’d say cell phones, laptops, and the Internet together created a very profound sea change that could hardly have been imagined in 1989. I don’t see why the steady development of any few branches of sci-fi sounding medicine (gene therapy, nanotech, and what have you) couldn’t follow a similar track over the next few decades.
“Anything beyond that is pure science fiction and will be for at least a few decades to come.”
For those of us in our 20s, “a few decades to come,” is sill easily within our lifetimes. Even people in their 30s and 40s can look forward to medical advances 30 or 40 years away. There’s no reason to shrug them off.
There’s also no reason to hit the roof over them. We’re all used to a high speed changing world by now (or at least should be) and that rate of change will not be significantly increased by these technologies. Will 20 years from now look like today? Not a chance. Then again today looks nearly nothing like 1990 due to the Internet and the Cell Phone.
… but if you think about it the core parts of what make us human and what makes human interaction haven’t really changed in the last few decades. Those changes come much slower. You usually get a few major sea shifts in a society over a century with the 1900’s being suffrage and civil rights movements plus the technology of the automobile and telephone (both invented in the late 1800’s but only really got going in the 1900’s).
The 2000’s sea shifts (again coming to the fore in the late 1900’s but they will see full maturity in the 2000’s) are the Internet and the Cell Phone in terms of technology. In terms of sociology we will see the resolution of rights for the LBGT community as well as at least one or two we have no inclining of at the moment.
All of these however take time. The fact that we’ve already seen the explosion of this centuries game changing technology leaves open room for maybe a few more – and nanotech and genetics are good candidates – but the chance of them coming to the fore within the next 50-75 years are slim. You may as well be waiting for fusion power.
So in conclusion – there’s nothing to freak out about. Technology is already changing at a high rate of speed and we’re used to it by now. There is little chance we’re going to see more dramatic changes in quite some time.