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Dems Fail Again to Get 60 on the Unemployment Bill

June 18, 2010 - by Donny Shaw

Senate Democrats tried once again last night to overcome a budget point of order against their unemployment insurance/tax extenders bill, this time on a pared-down version, and failed 56-40. Sixty votes were needed. Sen. Ben Nelson [D, NE] and Sen. Joe Lieberman [I, CT] joined all Republicans in voting down the bill.

The path forward from here is unclear to say the least. Majority Leader Harry Reid [D, NV] tried after the failing vote to pass each piece of the bill — the unemployment benefits, the doc-fix, the Medicaid money — as stand-alone measures by unanimous consent. But, each time, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell [R, KY] objected, citing deficit concerns. McConnell then offered to pass by unanimous consent a version of the bill that would be paid for with stimulus funds, but Reid objected to that.

The reason the Dems don’t split off pieces of the bill — say, the unemployment benefits section — and try to pass them separately with a full debate is that it would give Republicans an opportunity to stall all Senate action for a week or longer. The Republicans may not necessarily oppose the unemployment benefits extension or the doc fix, but they will filibuster and force an extended debate in order to eat up precious Senate time that the Democrats want to use for other things this session, like energy legislation, responding to Citizens United, and immigration reform. Sen. Tom Coburn’s [R, OK] move yesterday to employ the “clay pigeon” procedure and force votes on dozens of contentious amendments illustrates the kind of tools Republicans could use on each piece of this bill if the Dems tried splitting it up.

Under Senate rules, in order to bring the revised version back up for another vote, Reid would have had to vote against the cloture motion on the budget point of order yesterday. He didn’t, which indicates that we are going to see a deeper retooling of the bill to hit the floor next week. Most likely, the Dems will remove the $24 billion in state Medicaid aid, which would bring the total net deficit impact down to $31 billion. After last night’s vote, Nelson explained that he voted “no” because parts of the bill are still not paid for. “I want to see it all offset,” he said. It seem unlikely that lowering urn-offset spending to $31 billion would win over Nelson, so the Democrats are probably looking at winning over a few moderate Republicans, namely Sen. Olympia Snowe [R, ME], Sen. Susan Collins [R, ME] and Sen. Scott Brown [R, MA].

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    jgpt777 06/21/2010 9:45am

    RICHGILMORE:

    THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT SOME GOOD FACTS TO FOLLOW, I HOPE YOUR FUTURE NEEDS ARE MEET. LET ALL UNITE AND GET THIS BILL PASSED.

  • Georgeofthejungle 06/19/2010 7:33am

    Pray!

  • ssimms1980 06/19/2010 8:32am

    How are people supposed to look for jobs with no income coming in?If you lose your car because you can’t pay,don’t have money for gas,can’t pay your bill for internet connection,can’t pay for childcare,or you do not have a home to live in how do they think you are supposed to get a job? Not to mention the unemployed are being discriminated against!They are the people that need jobs the most, but the employers don’t want to hire them because they have been out of work for so long!This is a huge f*cked up mess we are in and it is all thanks to our politicians!Somebody needs to figure out a way to not only make new jobs,but help us to get them!If something does not happen soon, people that have not only lost their jobs and all their possesions including their homes, will start losing their families due to homelessness and hunger, then we will really start seeing desperate people committing desperate acts.Because if that does not cause desperation,then I don’t know what will

  • ssimms1980 06/19/2010 8:40am

    Also, (sorry to post again) but don’t the congress realize that if they do not pass this extension then all the money they have spent up to this point is a huge waste! All the money paid to the banks, the car companies, the prior unemployment extensions, cobra, medicare/medicaid, the tax breaks for businesses and all the other emergency spending is out the window!

  • godslove 06/19/2010 8:49am

    For a nation to become great, the more great men and women are required to govern and direct the forces of progress and growth that are at work within that nation. Everyone including myself must evolve into higher states of consciousness and moral values to sustain any relative stability in our present degrading and perverted fixture in life. We can’t assume the officials WE elect will magically wake up one day and decide to put other peoples well being before their own profit and rank in social stature. WE all to a certain extent take pride in many degree’s of our own nature and can’t therefore expect these politicians to realize their own demoralizing nature when we put them up on pedestals by reveling in pathetic awe every time we see them; throwing them parades and shaking their hands like they are Gods. Treat them the same as anyone else. Make them earn our respect and admiration for doing good things that benefit ALL humanity. Metaphysics, New thought. We reap what we sow!

  • andrea78 06/19/2010 11:19am

    Irregardless of whether you are Democrat or Republican, the bottom line is when will Congress and all start taking care of the people here in the USA!! By not passing the unemployment extension does Congress not understand that more home foreclosures will occur…more bankruptices will occur, less and less spending in small hometown business will happen, which will put us right back to bailing out the Finanacial Segments once more. Stop bailing out Big Bussiness and start helping the “Little People” who REALLY need the help!! It is us the Little People who voted you in to represent us. You have turned your backs so quickly on us while your pockets are being stuffed with monies from Lobbyists. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH Congress!!! YOU take a pay cut… YOU minimize YOUR wreckless personal spending such as the “Little People” having to fund the $28,000 per month for Nancy Pelosi’s new office. Practice what you preach Congress and YOU live on less than $800 a month!! Bet you cant dfo it!!

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    jpocalips1 06/20/2010 6:41am

    You forgot to mention crime, what do you think is going to happen when people can’t afford food, lodging, just the basics many become predators and will be more than willing to take from those who do. Maybe we should publicly post the entire, House, Senate, and Congress, home addresses. So when the masses find themselves craving some food, maybe alittle shelter, they will know right where to go.

  • danem007 06/19/2010 12:08pm

    You know, my understanding is that in China, their stimulus bill was much more effective than hours b/c they allocated the money to be spent in one year instead of over a period of a few years like our bill. I think that the Republicans are abusing the filibuster rule, but Harry Reid can’t pretend like the Republicans don’t exist – if Sen. McConnell had unanimous support to use unexpended stimulus funds to stimulate the economy now (so unemployed people can buy things with their checks) like China did (spend more money upfront), I don’t know why Sen. Reid couldn’t meet him half way to put an end to the Republicans abuse of the filibuster. I also don’t like using China as an example for us to model here obvious reasons, and maybe when their stimulus money dries up, their economy will end up slowing again. Regardless, I think we could learn something from the Chinese here and spend unspent stimulus money now. Thanks for listening.

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    jpocalips1 06/20/2010 6:34am

    Oh we will be learning something from the Chinese, maybe sooner than we expect. They damm near own us now.

  • ledonut 06/19/2010 5:19pm

    There were 96 total votes. Who were the 4 not voting ?

  • skrapper 06/20/2010 5:33am

    Everyone reading this, " no matter what state your in" should write there local news stations, “even the National News” and ask them Why is this Unemployment Bill Being kept Quiet? No One is saying anything about this Bill, and we as the Unemployed have the right to know what’s going on. This is our livelihood now!

    Senators, and Congress just remember this November when it’s our turn to vote for you Incumbents…. I know you won’t get my vote.. Let someone else who is maybe even unemployed get in there. Then they no what it’s like to walk in our shoes. You GREEDY S.O.Bs with your hands in the cookie jars will lose your asses!

  • jpocalips1 06/20/2010 5:46am

    These sorry bastards sit around having a pissing match with our lives. They are so out of touch with the people they are sworn to serve, it completely boggles the mind. Myself I’m 51 yrs. old, married 30yrs., worked hard all my life, paid taxes, obey the laws of this country, find myself layed off in 2009, have actively searched for gainful employment on a daily basis, taken any worked offered,and yes collect unemployment benefits when no work is found.Through it all I’ve tried to remain positive as I watch my world fall apart.I find myself growing angry, especially when I hear comments that most of us on unemployment are lazy,just kicking back soaking up the benefits,what I wouldn’t give to be, back working 50hrs. Our so called voice in Washington is out of control, out of touch, and out of their minds.To watch this great country continue to decline makes me physically ill.I openly challenge them, to have some honor,stand with the working man for once, and do the right thing.

  • skrapper 06/20/2010 6:32am

    I lost my job overseas almost 2 1/2 years ago in Michigan. We were entitled to TRA. I went to school graduated in the Medical field with a 3.9 GPA. There are still no jobs, even the Hospitals are laying off. So we had a summertime home up north, “that we as working people were able to buy.” filed for Bankruptcy, Gave the hose down state back to the Bank, and we now live up north. Were I am told what I went to school for,,, there is no such job up here. So now the husbands unemployment is out.. Do I have to go threw this again, and loose another house?
    If this keeps up, it will become a Welfare nation. I for one will not vote any CROOKED LEACH back in when we worked our whole lives for this. I will be 56 this year, Married 34 this year, and always worked. Why should I loose everything, just so they can get it all wile they can. NO WAY! If they won’t give us what we pd. in to… They will see the flip side of the coin come NOVEMBER, when we vote for them, and they don’t get in.

  • jpocalips1 06/20/2010 8:18am

    I don’t know if anybody has heard this little news flash, it seems another one of our deep thinkers in Washington,now want all of us to take a drug test to receive unemployment benefits, no problem as long as, everyone of them lines up for the same drug screening. I for one would feel alot better about, someone making policy concerning my life that wasn’t influenced by drugs, or merely head stuck to deeply in thy own ass!

  • reddlocs 06/20/2010 2:46pm

    This is a f’n waste! I only just realized that I am too in the numbers of people about to experience the CUT that is in place. I came from California where the raggedy system is not even automated, so by the time they did get me into another extension I was behind..and NOW to know that my next claim will be one friggin week due to this bullshit after I JUST caught up and paid late fees to my landlord and am paying back the IRS with this fucking money only to have it cut?!!!! well if it don’t add insult to injury the way things are done when it comes to the citizens it’s a crying shame. This is suppose to be the land of opportunity and all that crap but when the times get tough, the very people and fabric of this land gets CUT!!!! OUCH all fucking ready get off your asses and make it happen before we are in war in our own backyards!!!!!!

  • jgpt777 06/20/2010 6:31pm

    ATTENTION: ALL SENATORS THAT VOTED AGAINST EXTENDING UNEMPLOYMENT, PLEASE FOLLOW MY INSTRUCTIONS AND GO SCREW YOU SELF, BECAUSE YOU ARE OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

    ATTENTION: TO ALL THE AMERICANS THAT ARE ON UNEMPLOYMENT, “WE MUST UNITE AND NOT ALLOW ARROGANT SELFISH SENATORS, TO CONTINUE IN OFFICE”.

  • JParvin07 06/21/2010 5:43am

    Well folks, here we go again, another day….another 3 nights without sleep waiting & wondering what the hell will happen, if anything this week. Any word yet or are we all still in the dark. I bet the fat cat sen’s slept fine over the weekend! I worte letters to my local newspaper & local news station and asked why this is getting no coverage, of course no answers! I guess they will start to cover it when we all go completly nuts & start running through out Nation’s Capital demanding answers and pitching tents on our senators lawns!

  • UnemployedAmerican2010 06/21/2010 6:05am

    WHILE WE ARE ABOUT TO HAVE OUR CARS REPOSSESSED. BECOME HOMELESS THESE ARE THE SENATORS THAT ARE DRAGGING THEIR FEET AND DON’T GIVE A DAMN (thanks for posting the names) NOW I KNOW WHO NOT TO VOTE FOR COME NOVEMBER!
    Alexander (R-TN)
    Barrasso (R-WY)
    Bayh (D-IN)
    Begich (D-AK)
    Bennett (R-UT)
    Bond (R-MO)
    Brown (R-MA)
    Brownback (R-KS)
    Bunning (R-KY)
    Burr (R-NC)
    Chambliss (R-GA)
    Coburn (R-OK)
    Cochran (R-MS)
    Collins (R-ME)
    Corker (R-TN)
    Cornyn (R-TX)
    Crapo (R-ID)
    DeMint (R-SC)
    Ensign (R-NV)
    Enzi (R-WY)
    Feingold (D-WI)
    Graham (R-SC)
    Grassley (R-IA)
    Gregg (R-NH)
    Hatch (R-UT)
    Hutchison (R-TX)
    Inhofe (R-OK)
    Isakson (R-GA)
    Johanns (R-NE)
    Kohl (D-WI)
    Kyl (R-AZ)
    Landrieu (D-LA)
    LeMieux (R-FL)
    Lieberman (ID-CT)
    Lugar (R-IN)
    McCain (R-AZ)
    McCaskill (D-MO)
    McConnell (R-KY)
    Menendez (D-NJ)
    Murkowski (R-AK)
    Nelson (D-FL)
    Nelson (D-NE)
    Pryor (D-AR)
    Risch (R-ID)
    Sessions (R-AL)
    Shelby (R-AL)
    Snowe (R-ME)
    Thune (R-SD)
    Vitter (R-LA)
    Voinovich (R-OH)
    Webb (D-VA)
    Wicker (R-MS)

  • UnemployedAmerican2010 06/21/2010 6:10am

    I hear we have to wait until July 4th? OMG! We are losing sleep here! HUNGRY AND ABOUT TO BE HOMELESS PLEASE PASS THIS TODAY!!!!!!!

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    jgpt777 06/21/2010 9:43am

    DWALKER6996

    THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD INFORMATION

    PLEASE TAKE ONE DAY AT A TIME, THAT ALL WE CAN DO, THERE ARE ALOTE OF AMERICANS GOING THROUGHT THE SAME MESS WITH YOU, SO YOUR NOT ALONE. LET LOOK FORWARD TO A BETTER WEEK.

  • queencarrie 06/21/2010 7:11am

    people forget that even us unemployed have family members who are employed and do vote and these family members are appalled by what is going on. so for every unemployed voter they need to add in the families of these people who will be voting against them come election time also. that is something i dont think they realize. multiply the unemployed by at least 4 family members that will not vote for you see if that number makes more sense to you. i am so tired of being unemployed but at age 50 no chance i will find any kind of job right now. you say you need to find the money to fund well how about all senators take a pay cut to fund it otherwise if i become homeless myself and many others will be bringing tents,and other camping equipment to your front lawn til you either give me a job or my unemployment ext.

  • jgpt777 06/21/2010 9:31am

    TIDLUCKY:

    I FEEL WHAT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH, THERE ARE ALOTE OF AMERCIANS STANDING BESIDE YOU, AND GOING THROUGH THE SAME MESS.

    PLEASE ALL WE CAN DO IS TAKE ONE DAY AT A TIME, AND TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND PRAY AND STAY POSITIVE.

    TIDLUCKY PLEASE HANG IN THERE,,,IT WILL BE A BETTER WEEK.

  • skrapper 06/21/2010 2:03pm

    We are all having a hell of a time dealing, juggling this crap around. Some more then others. but,,,
    here is a bit of info for help available to you because you are unemployed. It is nation wide, but some areas won’t pick up on this. Sorry! It’s The United Way.
    You just dial 211 that’s it if someone picks up your threw to them. They can help in Medications, Churches that are giving out food, even Debt Consolidation if needed. Plus a whole lot more. Just put a list together Like Dentist, Food, whatever. Have a pen & paper ready because they will give you information if it is available in your area. Heagh!! It’s something. also check out your local St. Vincent De Paul. They can even help with the Utilities.
    We need to help each other since our Government won’t help us out. Please help each other.
    Hope this helps someone.

  • jpocalips1 06/21/2010 9:59pm

    Their is a petition at change.org, I would suggest everyone commenting on this page sign it.

  • nmeagent 06/22/2010 6:28pm

    It’s quite ironic that while you fight to keep your head above water, layer upon layer of entitlement programs aimed to keep you above that water continue to drag you down. Who do you think is going to pay for these extended benefits? I’ll tell you: your future employers. How the hell are they going to afford to hire you when their taxes are hiked to some astronomical level just to cover the interest on the debt? You bite the hand that feeds you and wonder why no more is offered.

  • ssimms1980 06/24/2010 2:02am

    Please go to change.org and sign the petition to separate the unemployment extention from the rest of the H.R. 4213 bill! And please tell everyone you know that supports this cause to sign it too.

  • Chris51 07/03/2010 10:12pm

    REPUBLICAN FILIBUSTER ON UI EXT BILLS!
    Why don’t our Senators get that there is a great need?

    The job market is broken.
    The corporate executives are not going to give up their year-end profit bonus by adding jobs/payroll to their companies.

    Here are a few stories on our jobless nation:

    Job recovery hits a wall
    http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/02/news/economy/jobs_june/index.htm

    Job gloom at all time high
    http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/03/news/economy/discouraged_workers/index.htm

    7.9 million jobs lost- many forever
    http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/02/news/economy/jobs_gone_forever/index.htm

    Jobless claims spike
    http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/01/news/economy/jobless_claims/index.htm

    Thousands at risk for losing unemployment benefits
    http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/money/job_news/unemployment-benefits-jeopardy-6-28-2010

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