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Dems Fail Again to Get 60 on the Unemployment Bill

June 18, 2010 - by Donny Shaw

Senate Democrats tried once again last night to overcome a budget point of order against their unemployment insurance/tax extenders bill, this time on a pared-down version, and failed 56-40. Sixty votes were needed. Sen. Ben Nelson [D, NE] and Sen. Joe Lieberman [I, CT] joined all Republicans in voting down the bill.

The path forward from here is unclear to say the least. Majority Leader Harry Reid [D, NV] tried after the failing vote to pass each piece of the bill — the unemployment benefits, the doc-fix, the Medicaid money — as stand-alone measures by unanimous consent. But, each time, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell [R, KY] objected, citing deficit concerns. McConnell then offered to pass by unanimous consent a version of the bill that would be paid for with stimulus funds, but Reid objected to that.

The reason the Dems don’t split off pieces of the bill — say, the unemployment benefits section — and try to pass them separately with a full debate is that it would give Republicans an opportunity to stall all Senate action for a week or longer. The Republicans may not necessarily oppose the unemployment benefits extension or the doc fix, but they will filibuster and force an extended debate in order to eat up precious Senate time that the Democrats want to use for other things this session, like energy legislation, responding to Citizens United, and immigration reform. Sen. Tom Coburn’s [R, OK] move yesterday to employ the “clay pigeon” procedure and force votes on dozens of contentious amendments illustrates the kind of tools Republicans could use on each piece of this bill if the Dems tried splitting it up.

Under Senate rules, in order to bring the revised version back up for another vote, Reid would have had to vote against the cloture motion on the budget point of order yesterday. He didn’t, which indicates that we are going to see a deeper retooling of the bill to hit the floor next week. Most likely, the Dems will remove the $24 billion in state Medicaid aid, which would bring the total net deficit impact down to $31 billion. After last night’s vote, Nelson explained that he voted “no” because parts of the bill are still not paid for. “I want to see it all offset,” he said. It seem unlikely that lowering urn-offset spending to $31 billion would win over Nelson, so the Democrats are probably looking at winning over a few moderate Republicans, namely Sen. Olympia Snowe [R, ME], Sen. Susan Collins [R, ME] and Sen. Scott Brown [R, MA].

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Chris51 07/08/2010 7:26pm
in reply to Chris51 Jul 08, 2010 7:26pm

GOP are determined to bloc everything the President is trying to do for the USA right now. He has a vested interest, and seems to take pride in doing the best job he can while in office.
We are in trouble as long as Republican politicians continue favoring their special interest.
How can any CEO or Owner of business get anything done if half of his managers or executives stand in his way just to be defiant.

President Obama speech on CSPAN today, while in Kansas City, MO to support a future candidate. Was right on.
If you are an unemployed American, and are thinking no one understands the difficulties of being jobless. Obama speech articulated the financial and emotional struggles well. Hat’s off to the President for saying what needed to be said.

http://cspan.org/Watch/Media/2010/07/08/HP/A/35248/Pres+Obama+Remarks+at+Fundraiser+for+Missouri+Senate+Candidate+Robin

Chris51 07/08/2010 7:26pm
in reply to Chris51 Jul 01, 2010 9:46am

Senator’s excuse for not passing is a false statement.
Read all about it:
The funding argument is even harder to swallow. I’d be more sympathetic with these new converts to fiscal responsibility if they were as enthusiastic about paying for extending $32 billion worth of special interest tax breaks as they are about funding the unemployment extension. If I understand correctly, these lawmakers insist that Congress fund every dime of added jobless aid, which nearly all analysts agree will help boost the economy. But they feel no need to pay for continuing these special interest tax breaks, which will not.
Full Story:
http://www.csmonitor.com/Money/Tax-VOX/2010/0707/Senate-struggles-with-unemployment-benefits

Chris51 07/03/2010 10:12pm

REPUBLICAN FILIBUSTER ON UI EXT BILLS!
Why don’t our Senators get that there is a great need?

The job market is broken.
The corporate executives are not going to give up their year-end profit bonus by adding jobs/payroll to their companies.

Here are a few stories on our jobless nation:

Job recovery hits a wall
http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/02/news/economy/jobs_june/index.htm

Job gloom at all time high
http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/03/news/economy/discouraged_workers/index.htm

7.9 million jobs lost- many forever
http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/02/news/economy/jobs_gone_forever/index.htm

Jobless claims spike
http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/01/news/economy/jobless_claims/index.htm

Thousands at risk for losing unemployment benefits
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/money/job_news/unemployment-benefits-jeopardy-6-28-2010

Chris51 07/01/2010 9:46am
in reply to auntmartha Jun 18, 2010 11:59pm

Corporations have increased their cash reserves to $1.84 TRILLION, THE HIGHEST FIGURE IN HISTORY! Big business and the banks, after an unprecedented bailout by the public treasury, are hoarding the funds (Americans pay this back on their IRS tax bill). BIG CORPORATIONS EXECUTIVES ARE MAKING BIG BONUSES AND GETTING SALARY INCREASES FOR SHOWING HUGE PROFITS. The cash reserves of major corporations have jumped 26 percent in one year, the largest percentage increase in nearly 60 years. The cash reserves of working people, and particularly the unemployed, have not been so fortunate.

REPUBLICANS bloc, the SENATE vote and defeat sevaral proposed extension of unemployment benefits for unemployed workers. Many of these same Senators rushed through a $700 BILLION bailout of Wall Street in 2008 in a matter of days, cannot bring itself to support even the most meager subsistence for the unemployed workers who are the victims, not the perpetrators, of the economic crisis.
WWW.CHANGE.ORG

Chris51 06/30/2010 10:54pm
in reply to jforiska Jun 18, 2010 11:35am

The Senate needs to be held accountable for their incompetence and lack of integrity. Shame on them for not coming up with a 100% solution for all Americans who are forced to survive on their UI.

President Obama can’t sign a bill, if Congress doesn’t get it to him. President Obama’s discussed the economy, and the need to help the displaced unemployed with UI Extentions on Monday and Tuesday. CSPAN.ORG

As of today, we have 9.7% unemployed, 55% of the workforce have taken reduced work hours, pay-cuts, unpaid leave, forced to switch to part-time, and BP Oil Corporation’s IRRESPONSIBLENESS is adding to LOST JOBS and LOST LIVES.
1.2 million who will lose their Unemployment Insurance if Republicans get their way.

The GOP have no vested interest in hearing or helping jobless people. The only communication Republicans hear is $$$$$. That’s why they listen to and only support Oil Companies, Insurance Companies, Banks, Big Corporations, and Wall Street

Chris51 06/30/2010 7:15am
in reply to jforiska Jun 18, 2010 11:35am

• It’s the Republican party who is busy watching out for Wall Street/Corporations.
Shame on Congress for not coming up with a solution for ALL its’ displaced hard working Americans.
• 9.7% unemployed = 1.2 million Americans, and 55% of the workforce have taken reduced work hours, pay-cuts, unpaid leave, forced to switch to part-time. The BP Oil Corporation’s irresponsibleness is adding to lost jobs and lost lives.

Yesterday, President Obama’s discussed what was happening with corporations, the economy, and the need to help the displaced unemployed. Watch his entire interview on CSPAN. He gets it.

CNN and FOX only report on self-interested, with their main story and topics cycling 24 hours. Go to CSPAN
CSPAN: http://www.c-span.org/Watch/Media/2010/06/29/HP/A/34826/Pres+Obama+Remarks+on+the+Economy.aspx

wwww.change.

ssimms1980 06/24/2010 2:02am

Please go to change.org and sign the petition to separate the unemployment extention from the rest of the H.R. 4213 bill! And please tell everyone you know that supports this cause to sign it too.

ableleasing 06/23/2010 5:47pm
in reply to tweety65 Jun 18, 2010 9:17am

I could not have said it better myself!

nmeagent 06/22/2010 6:28pm

It’s quite ironic that while you fight to keep your head above water, layer upon layer of entitlement programs aimed to keep you above that water continue to drag you down. Who do you think is going to pay for these extended benefits? I’ll tell you: your future employers. How the hell are they going to afford to hire you when their taxes are hiked to some astronomical level just to cover the interest on the debt? You bite the hand that feeds you and wonder why no more is offered.

nmeagent 06/22/2010 6:05pm
in reply to jgpt777 Jun 18, 2010 8:18am

So let me get this straight…

You pay into and participate in a system that’s entire foundation is the legalized plunder of other people’s resources for a certain amount of time (your working life up until now) and thus you are entitled to a cut of that plunder in perpetuity?

jpocalips1 06/21/2010 9:59pm

Their is a petition at change.org, I would suggest everyone commenting on this page sign it.

skrapper 06/21/2010 2:03pm

We are all having a hell of a time dealing, juggling this crap around. Some more then others. but,,,
here is a bit of info for help available to you because you are unemployed. It is nation wide, but some areas won’t pick up on this. Sorry! It’s The United Way.
You just dial 211 that’s it if someone picks up your threw to them. They can help in Medications, Churches that are giving out food, even Debt Consolidation if needed. Plus a whole lot more. Just put a list together Like Dentist, Food, whatever. Have a pen & paper ready because they will give you information if it is available in your area. Heagh!! It’s something. also check out your local St. Vincent De Paul. They can even help with the Utilities.
We need to help each other since our Government won’t help us out. Please help each other.
Hope this helps someone.

jgpt777 06/21/2010 9:48am
in reply to SinCity Jun 18, 2010 1:45pm

SINCITY:

PLEASE TAKE ONE DAY AT A TIME..THATS ALL WE CAN DO AT THIS TIME,,REMEMBER THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS ON YOUR SIDE GOING THROUGH THE SAME MESS.

PLEASE STAY POSITIVE AND KNOW THERE IS BETTER DAYS A HEAD..

jgpt777 06/21/2010 9:45am
in reply to bytetek Jun 19, 2010 5:44am

RICHGILMORE:

THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT SOME GOOD FACTS TO FOLLOW, I HOPE YOUR FUTURE NEEDS ARE MEET. LET ALL UNITE AND GET THIS BILL PASSED.

jgpt777 06/21/2010 9:43am
in reply to UnemployedAmerican2010 Jun 21, 2010 6:10am

DWALKER6996

THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD INFORMATION

PLEASE TAKE ONE DAY AT A TIME, THAT ALL WE CAN DO, THERE ARE ALOTE OF AMERICANS GOING THROUGHT THE SAME MESS WITH YOU, SO YOUR NOT ALONE. LET LOOK FORWARD TO A BETTER WEEK.

jgpt777 06/21/2010 9:39am
in reply to JBROKE Jun 18, 2010 2:27pm

JPOCALIPS1:

THAT A GOOD IDEA…LET GO ROAST THOSE WENNIES…LOL
SOUND GOOD, I LOVE A GOOD AMERICAN HOT DOG.

PLEASE TAKE ONE DAY AT A TIME..THAT ALL WE CAN ALL DO,,AND REMEMBER THERE WILL BE BETTER DAYS… IN THE FUTURE.

HANG IN THERE,,,WERE ALL IN THE SAME BOAT

jgpt777 06/21/2010 9:36am
in reply to mnt Jun 19, 2010 9:48am

TWOKIDSSTOSUPPORT AND MNT:

THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD INFORMATION, PLEASE TAKE ONE DAY AT A TIME, AND STAY POSITIVE.

jgpt777 06/21/2010 9:31am

TIDLUCKY:

I FEEL WHAT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH, THERE ARE ALOTE OF AMERCIANS STANDING BESIDE YOU, AND GOING THROUGH THE SAME MESS.

PLEASE ALL WE CAN DO IS TAKE ONE DAY AT A TIME, AND TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND PRAY AND STAY POSITIVE.

TIDLUCKY PLEASE HANG IN THERE,,,IT WILL BE A BETTER WEEK.

tidlucky 06/21/2010 8:29am
in reply to jgpt777 Jun 18, 2010 8:18am

I live in Nevada and was laid-off in 2009. I applied for and was receiving unemployment benefits. Nevada being #1 in unemployed I decided to retire early.

I am a plumber and I applied for my local union pension and for early reduced (2 years) social security benefits. I was informed by my union that I am approximately 120 hours shy of receiving my pension. If I am unable to work the hours, I will lose my pension. There are over 800 plumbers on the out of work list, bottome line is, I will lose my pension.

Nevada has a®candidate Sharron Angle running against(D)incumbent Harry Reid that wants to end social security and medicare, amongst other ridiculous things.

To make this sad story short, honesty, hard work, and being a patriotic citizen are not qualities a person can be proud of these days. The only thing I see in my golden years is pushing a shopping cart and holding a cardboard sign begging for money.

queencarrie 06/21/2010 7:11am

people forget that even us unemployed have family members who are employed and do vote and these family members are appalled by what is going on. so for every unemployed voter they need to add in the families of these people who will be voting against them come election time also. that is something i dont think they realize. multiply the unemployed by at least 4 family members that will not vote for you see if that number makes more sense to you. i am so tired of being unemployed but at age 50 no chance i will find any kind of job right now. you say you need to find the money to fund well how about all senators take a pay cut to fund it otherwise if i become homeless myself and many others will be bringing tents,and other camping equipment to your front lawn til you either give me a job or my unemployment ext.

dwalker6996 06/21/2010 7:06am
in reply to rgreen001 Jun 18, 2010 11:33am

http://uspoverty.change.org/petitions/view/vote_hr_4213_opponents_out_of_office_in_november

Please sign petition

dwalker6996 06/21/2010 7:06am
in reply to Georgeofthejungle Jun 19, 2010 7:30am

Please sign petition

http://uspoverty.change.org/petitions/view/vote_hr_4213_opponents_out_of_office_in_november

dwalker6996 06/21/2010 7:04am
in reply to rgreen001 Jun 18, 2010 11:33am

please sign petition if you can’t make it

http://www.opencongress.org/articles/view/1926-Dems-Fail-Again-to-Get-60-on-the-Unemployment-Bill

dwalker6996 06/21/2010 6:32am
in reply to jgpt777 Jun 18, 2010 8:18am

Here is the contact info for the Senate members that voted against unemployment and COBRA on 6/17/2010 are listed on the following sites

March on June 22-24 details- unionofunemployed.com
worlnewsvine.com, jobs4americanow .org,

Petition:
http://uspoverty.change.org/petitions/view/vote_hr_4213_opponents_out_of_office_in_november

UnemployedAmerican2010 06/21/2010 6:10am

I hear we have to wait until July 4th? OMG! We are losing sleep here! HUNGRY AND ABOUT TO BE HOMELESS PLEASE PASS THIS TODAY!!!!!!!

UnemployedAmerican2010 06/21/2010 6:05am

WHILE WE ARE ABOUT TO HAVE OUR CARS REPOSSESSED. BECOME HOMELESS THESE ARE THE SENATORS THAT ARE DRAGGING THEIR FEET AND DON’T GIVE A DAMN (thanks for posting the names) NOW I KNOW WHO NOT TO VOTE FOR COME NOVEMBER!
Alexander (R-TN)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Bayh (D-IN)
Begich (D-AK)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brown (R-MA)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feingold (D-WI)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
LeMieux (R-FL)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
McCaskill (D-MO)
McConnell (R-KY)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Risch (R-ID)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Snowe (R-ME)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Webb (D-VA)
Wicker (R-MS)

JParvin07 06/21/2010 5:43am

Well folks, here we go again, another day….another 3 nights without sleep waiting & wondering what the hell will happen, if anything this week. Any word yet or are we all still in the dark. I bet the fat cat sen’s slept fine over the weekend! I worte letters to my local newspaper & local news station and asked why this is getting no coverage, of course no answers! I guess they will start to cover it when we all go completly nuts & start running through out Nation’s Capital demanding answers and pitching tents on our senators lawns!

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