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Update on Tuesday's Unemployment Vote

July 16, 2010 - by Donny Shaw

As some of you have noted in the comments, in my post last night on what’s been going on with the unemployment bill, I came to the wrong conclusion about which bill — H.R. 4213 or H.R. 5618 — would be getting a vote on Tuesday. Because, as I explained, Senate Democrats had been setting up the procedure for bringing H.R. 5618 to the Senate floor directly (skipping the committee process), I figured that was the bill they were planning to move forward with. However, shortly after publishing the post, new information was posted on the Senate calendar that indicated H.R. 4213 would actually be the bill getting a vote.

Here’s what it in the Congressional Record Daily Digest for Thursday about Tuesday’s vote:

A unanimous-consent agreement was reached providing that at 2:30 p.m., on Tuesday, July 20, 2010, Senate resume consideration of the amendment of the House of Representatives to the amendment of the Senate to H.R. 4213, to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to extend certain expiring provisions; that the motion to reconsider be agreed to, and Senate vote on the motion to invoke cloture on the motion to concur in the House amendment to the Senate amendment to the bill with Reid Amendment No. 4425 (to the amendment of the House to the amendment of the Senate to the bill), in the nature of a substitute.

This is the same exact motion and the same exact amendment that the Senate voted on on June 30. It was effectively filibustered then by a vote of 58-38, but, remember, Majority Leader Sen. Harry Reid [D, NV] only voted “nay” in order to preserve his right under Senate rules to bring the bill back up for another vote. If another senator had voted “aye,” Reid would have switched his vote to an “aye” in order to secure the 60 votes that are needed to break a filibuster. On Tuesday, after Carte Goodwin (Byrd’s replacement) is sworn in, the Democrats will have 60 votes to break the Republican-led filibuster and pass the cloture motion.

Once cloture passes, the Senate will then have to vote on passage of the “motion to concur in the House amendment to the Senate amendment to the bill with Reid Amendment No. 4425” within 30 hours. The Republicans could choose to keep the debate open for the full 30 hours, or they could let the Democrats proceed within the final vote sooner. It’s customary for the minority party to let the final vote happen shortly after cloture is invoked since passage only takes 51 votes and it has just been shown that the majority has at least 60, but the Republicans do stand to benefit by using up as much of the Democrats’ time as they can, so we’ll see.

Once final passage is secured in the Senate, the bill will have to go back to the House for a vote on a concurring to Senate amendment.

On May 28, the House passed a version of this bill that contained the unemployment insurance extension and several controversial tax provisions by a vote of 215-204. On July 1, the House passed a stand-alone unemployment extension bill (H.R. 5618) by an overwhelming 270-152. Given their ability to pass both a stand-alone UI bill and one that includes a bunch of unrelated tax items, they should have no problem passing the Reid Amendment. Besides the UI extension, it contains an extension of the closing date for the first-time homebuyer tax credit, which is fully offset by three non-controversial revenue items, details of which can be found here.

As soon as the House votes favorably on concurring with the Senate amendment, the bill can be sent to President Obama to be signed into law.

Now let me throw in this important disclaimer: This is all at the discretion of Majority Leader Reid and it is subject to change. As we know, Reid has been working simultaneously to have H.R. 5618 ready for a vote as well, and just because the calendar says H.R. 4213 right now doesn’t mean that is definitely what will happen on Tuesday. No matter what, it looks right now like there should be no problem with getting the unemployment extension signed into law by the end of next week. Keep checking this blog or subscribe to the RSS feed for updates.

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dorseygor 07/20/2010 10:19pm
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You see President Obama is now advocating against Pay As You Go, the very bill he signed into law. He has attempted to demonize republicans who are only trying to follow the Pay As You Go bill that President Obama signed into law. Unemployment benefit extentions would have been passed weeks ago if the Pay As You Go law would have been followed. There is about 40 billion in unspent stimulis dollars that could have been used for this purpose. So if you want to hold people accountable for unemployment extention delay you must at least look at the Senate run by Majority Leader Harry Reid (D), the U.S. House of Representatives run by Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D) and the Executive Branch run by President Obama (D). Please everyone don’t be fooled by double speak and double action and poor news reporting.

ps- I hope everyone gets through these hard times.
dorseygor
http://USconstitutions.com

RichardStone 07/20/2010 11:17am
in reply to justamick Jul 20, 2010 10:41am

I am really getting tired of Cobern and other Senators worrying about their grand children having to pay for “All Of This” ! He has been part of “All Of This” and I would suggest he start saving for his grandchildren! I have no interest in paying anything toward his grandchildren’s future!

justamick 07/20/2010 10:41am
in reply to artledoux Jul 19, 2010 6:12pm

And Obama is more fiscally responsible? He’s the president who signed into law the single LARGEST spending bill in US History!

Dont kid yourself… ending the Bush era tax cuts are going to leave a HUGE burden on the middle class. Just wait and see.

BigCat 07/20/2010 8:34am
in reply to Chris51 Jul 19, 2010 2:07pm

Chris, does that list include the 400 mil the unions gave to the Obama campaign in ‘08? Wasn’t pro union legislation one of the ‘Annointed One’s’ first priority as Commander in Chief?

BigCat 07/20/2010 8:30am
in reply to dorseygor Jul 20, 2010 8:20am

Here here Dorsey! Heaven forbid we actually hold the “Annointed One” to his word on anything. Obama is a tax & spend liberal, period. He fooled everyone with the CHANGE montra. I feel for the lefties, especially on this blog, who fell for that crap, and now find themselves among the ranks of the unemployed.

Folks, you think its bad now, just wait till Obama’s new taxes hit! National Sales Tax, etc. On unemployment or not, those new taxes (to pay for all of his spending) are going to hit everyone.

For the “class enviers” on this blog…..hate the wealthy all you like but it is the wealthy and upper middle class who are keeping our barely solvent economy afloat right now. They are buying retail goods & products, stocks & so on that we who are unemployed can not. Hating those who ‘have’ because you ‘have-not’ is just plain ignorant.

dorseygor 07/20/2010 8:20am

On Feb. 12, President Barack Obama signed into law pay-as- you-go budget rules. So-called paygo rules, which bar Congress from increasing spending unless it’s offset by budget cuts elsewhere, were in effect from 1990 until 2002, when they were allowed to expire. The goal of paygo, Obama said in his radio address to the nation on Feb. 13, is to ensure that “Congress will have to pay for what it spends, just like everybody else.”
source- by Kevin Hassett/Business Week

Please everyone don’t be fooled by double speak and double action and poor news reporting.
ps- I hope everyone gets through these hard times.
dorseygor
http://USconstitutions.com

I made about 85 phone calls today, sent 8 faxes and sent about 40 emails. I covered almost every Senator, asking them to not only pass the bill but also to please please please write a bill for us 99ers.

Now we have to BOMBARD the Senators and Representatives and Obama with calls DEMANDING they NOT go on vacation until this NATIONAL EMERGENCY OF JOBLESSNESS is handled. We need a Tier 5 to prevent hundreds of thousands of people from becoming homeless. Period.

If you need phone numbers of who to call etc. look around at this site:
tinyurl.com/26×5g5x

If you’re up late tonight or up early tomorrow you might still be counted if you call or write or fax before the vote tomorrow.

artledoux 07/19/2010 6:12pm
in reply to BigCat Jul 19, 2010 12:00pm

Ya Big cat don’t you wish Bush was still in, I mean he was so fiscally
responsible!
Actually things would not be so bad if not for his doing. The National
debt would have disappeared next year if Bush had not given all that
money to the rich!
Art LeDoux

saturnsc2 07/19/2010 4:31pm

does this board have moderators? they should ban all these pieces of shit that just come here to stir up trouble…

their not here to engage in any constructive conversation, just here to stir the pot…

voteoutdemintinsc 07/19/2010 4:22pm

I think Justamick..just does not know what it is like to be unemployed. But Republicans and Dem’s and Independents all are in the Unemployment line. I too was a Republican and i am in the same boat as the rest of you. I am a single parent of 2, One 16 year old and a 6 month old! Instead of all of us throwing stones we need to pull together and vote all of these assholes out of office! I do believe that the unemployment benefits need to be extended until the rate for each state is below 7%. I also think that these stimulus bills need to have incentives for the companies who layed us off, at no fault of our own, reinstate our jobs, and call us back to work. The Companies that we worked for are also taking advantage of our situation! Futhermore, Justamick, I think you should have more common sense than what you are showing, asking that particular question on this blog. Are you just trying to raise peoples blood pressures? I think we have been thru enough. Show some respect for God’s sake.

gerryd 07/19/2010 2:57pm
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to Justamick – can you give us or find us a job? Do not condem anyone unless you are in their shoes. I would much rather be making my full salary than trying to live on one third of what I made after working over 30 years. So if you have a job, then thank god, but unless you are in the situations we are all in THROUGH NO FAULTS OF OUR OWN – then DO NOT CAST STONES!!! Find work for us and we will gladly accept it. Bet you have money and are a Republican to boot!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chris51 07/19/2010 2:07pm
in reply to Chris51 Jul 19, 2010 2:05pm

continue… list of some of the Special Interests group contributions found on opensecrets.org:

Top Contributors to Federal Candidates and Parties
Insurance: 2000-2010 Total $214,585,915
2010: $22,882,516
2008: $46,710,766
2006: $31,567,873
2004: $36,197,669
2002: $36,867,324
2000: $40,359,767

Oil & Gas: 2000-2010 Total $155,373,800
2010: $13,872,160
2008: $35,690,662
2006: $20,372,756
2004: $26,077,264
2002: $25,037,766
2000: $34,323,192

Commercial Banks: 2000-2010 Total $150,549,225
2010: $11,768,525
2008: $37,569,109
2006: $25,563,744
2004: $30,452,030
2002: $19,702,940
2000: $25,492,877

Pharmaceuticals/Health Products: 2000-2010 Total $139,237,802
2010: $14,836,696
2008: $29,658,995
2006: $19,922,374
2004: $17,952,715
2002: $29,692,221
2000: $27,174,801

Chris51 07/19/2010 2:05pm

Eight years of Bush’s wink, wink Administration. Those years made the few wealthy families, Special Interest groups, big corporate executives, GOP, and long-term politicians wealthier, while they led the USA into economic collapse. These Republican Senators have grown callus to struggling Americans, and continue to ignore them, simply trying to cast the people aside.

Watch out, the GOP & Republicans plan on standing on their "Deficit Concern” tomorrow.
They will never answer the question of why didn’t their actions show any “Deficit Concern” during Bush’s 2000-2008 years?

What do you think they are going to protect?!

Top Contributors to Federal Candidates and Parties
INSURANCE: 2000-2010 Total $214,585,915
OIL & GAS: 2000-2010 Total $155,373,800
COMMERCIAL BANKS: 2000-2010 Total $150,549,225
PHARMACEUTICALS/HEALTH PRODUCTS: 2000-2010 Total $139,237,802

voteoutdemintinsc 07/19/2010 12:44pm
in reply to understanding Jul 17, 2010 6:49am

How did you come to this information? I cant get a response from anyone in Columbia or here at home. They said they did not have a clue. Columbia office won’t even answer the phone,….assholes, been trying for 2 weeks strait. You dont have to reveal your source, just let me know if you are POSITIVE about this for People getting their checks next week if this passes tomorrow.

BigCat 07/19/2010 12:00pm
in reply to justamick Jul 19, 2010 11:25am

justamick, I do believe a ‘cap’ on UC is a must. Otherwise many will abuse the system (NOT ALL but many), and simply not get off their butts until NO MORE means NO MORE. During times of high unemployment, I support 26 weeks of State paid benefits, and then 26 weeks of Federal, for a total of 52 weeks. One year of government UC aid, that’s it.
The spending spree this administration and congress has been on for 1.5 years is going to cost all of us in the long run. No one wants to be the first to feel the pinch. Trust me, senior citizens will be next to scream when cuts head to social security. Teachers will bitch when arts & music get cut from education. And so on. We, the unemployed just got tagged on bad timing, and first.
More cuts must come. Someone has to pay the bill for all this spending. If cuts aren’t made, prepare for new taxes!!!! You think it’s bad know? Wait till this administration really blunders and raises taxes in a recession economy :-(

jalawu 07/19/2010 11:47am

Can anyone tell me if Section 413 has been amended? This is a very bad thing if it passes.

jalawu 07/19/2010 11:37am

Does anyone know if section 413 had been amended in this bill? This will be really bad if this bill goes through with the section in it.

justamick 07/19/2010 11:25am

I just wanted to ask one pointed question for those of you who expect the Federal Government to extend you Unemployment Benefits…

Should unemployment benefits be indefinately extended?

Should your burden be placed on the American taxpayer? Is that right? We all paid into getting unemployment benefits, but there comes a point where the money you paid into it becomes depleted and the burden begins to reside on the tax payer.

How many unemployment benefit extensions becomes too much?

BigCat 07/19/2010 9:18am
in reply to dedgar Jul 18, 2010 5:45pm

Don’t forget Nelson (D-Nebraska) who voted NO. With Nelson’s vote of YES, Reid could have cast the passing vote on June 29th, and we wouldn’t be having this discussion today.

BigCat 07/19/2010 9:15am
in reply to gerryd Jul 18, 2010 1:50pm

LOL @ all news networks being owned by republicans. What rock do you live under gerry? The mainstream TV media is so liberally biased it isn’t even funny. FOX is the lone TV network which leans conservative.

mindlike 07/19/2010 9:06am
in reply to Jonapoo4u Jul 16, 2010 12:39pm

did you even read the above article how the mechanics for why it is now (in one form or another) likely to pass because of a newly elected democratic senator that can break the original filibusters?

saturnsc2 07/19/2010 7:55am

the 99rs are the ones that congress could care less about. they used up all 99 weeks of their benefits. they have to listen to the same song & dance that they should have gotten a job by now & they are just lazy & don’t want to work. of course the ones who say these thongs have their heads up their asses…

artledoux 07/19/2010 7:29am
in reply to UnemployedWorkersActionGroup Jul 18, 2010 6:18pm

You’re right!
Art leDoux

gerryd 07/19/2010 6:31am

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME? WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY 99ERS? I AM IN PA, WAS ON THE STATE EB PAPER CLAIM FORMS. SENT IN THE FIRST 4 AND GOT THAT UNTIL JUNE 5TH. THEN I SENT IN THE NEXT 4 AND GOT NOTHING. I CALLED WHEN I DID NOT RECEIVE MY THIRD BATCH AND THEY SAID THAT THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT IT WILL BE STOPPED BECAUSE THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE NOW IN PA IS NOT AS HIGH AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY??HOW CAN THE RATE CHANGE SO FAST WHEN PEOPLE ARE STILL GETTING LAID OFF?? OR DO THEY MAKE IT CHANGE SO THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY?? THIS IS SO FRUSTRATING AND NOT FAIR. I HAVE APPLIED FOR OVER 85 TO 90 JOBS AND KEEP GETTING REJECTED!!!!! I WAS AN ACCOUNTANT AND CANNOT EVEN GET A JOB IN A SUPERMARKET OR DRUG STORE!!!!! NOW I HAVE TO FIND A PLACE TO LIVE CAUSE I AM A WIDOW WITH $80 IN THE BANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOW CAN THEY DO THIS TO US AND SLEEP AT NIGHTS!! BUT THEN AGAIN HOW DO THEY DO A LOT OF CROOKED THINGS IN WASHINGTON AND SLEEP AT NIGHTS!!! NO CONSCIENCES I SUPPOSE!!!!

saturnsc2 07/18/2010 8:14pm

well i have 20 more weeks of eb, well actually more like 13 more weeks since 7 went by while expired then i will be a 99er also. i wonder what’s going to happen after this extension plays it’s way through in november & the job situation is still the same, will they THEN make another extension for the 99rs or just forget about us all….

the world might be a scary place to live at that point, mass suicides, crime at it’s peak, rioting in the streets as more people get thrown out of their homes, wow….

Chris51 07/18/2010 8:03pm
in reply to eavina30 Jul 18, 2010 4:24pm

Great post/video! Shows where the politicians stand on UI Ext., and what politicians do best… avoid the truth, twist the truth, and try to deceive Americans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDOb8E7D8tc

1. Do Mitch McConnell(R-KY)& GOP understand Americans are unemployed, but not stupid. They can continue to manipulate the numbers GDP to Deficit percentage in attempt to win in November’s election.
2. Do McConnell and GOP really think Americans can’t add, and figure how the Fed. Deficit got into the Trillions$?
Let’s see, here is just a small list of the dollars Bush Administration/GOP started piling up in USAs Fed. Deficit: Two Oil War, Total Cost 1.6 TRILLION; Bank Bailout, $700 BILLION in October 2008 (prior to Obama Administration); Tax Breaks, Cost 1.8 TRILLION so far (most went to high incomes earners of $250,000+, and the rest of America received on average $100), Prescription Overhaul Bill…
Americans are unemployed, but not stupid. VOTE SMART IN NOVEMBER.

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