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Update on Tuesday's Unemployment Vote

July 16, 2010 - by Donny Shaw

As some of you have noted in the comments, in my post last night on what’s been going on with the unemployment bill, I came to the wrong conclusion about which bill — H.R. 4213 or H.R. 5618 — would be getting a vote on Tuesday. Because, as I explained, Senate Democrats had been setting up the procedure for bringing H.R. 5618 to the Senate floor directly (skipping the committee process), I figured that was the bill they were planning to move forward with. However, shortly after publishing the post, new information was posted on the Senate calendar that indicated H.R. 4213 would actually be the bill getting a vote.

Here’s what it in the Congressional Record Daily Digest for Thursday about Tuesday’s vote:

A unanimous-consent agreement was reached providing that at 2:30 p.m., on Tuesday, July 20, 2010, Senate resume consideration of the amendment of the House of Representatives to the amendment of the Senate to H.R. 4213, to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to extend certain expiring provisions; that the motion to reconsider be agreed to, and Senate vote on the motion to invoke cloture on the motion to concur in the House amendment to the Senate amendment to the bill with Reid Amendment No. 4425 (to the amendment of the House to the amendment of the Senate to the bill), in the nature of a substitute.

This is the same exact motion and the same exact amendment that the Senate voted on on June 30. It was effectively filibustered then by a vote of 58-38, but, remember, Majority Leader Sen. Harry Reid [D, NV] only voted “nay” in order to preserve his right under Senate rules to bring the bill back up for another vote. If another senator had voted “aye,” Reid would have switched his vote to an “aye” in order to secure the 60 votes that are needed to break a filibuster. On Tuesday, after Carte Goodwin (Byrd’s replacement) is sworn in, the Democrats will have 60 votes to break the Republican-led filibuster and pass the cloture motion.

Once cloture passes, the Senate will then have to vote on passage of the “motion to concur in the House amendment to the Senate amendment to the bill with Reid Amendment No. 4425” within 30 hours. The Republicans could choose to keep the debate open for the full 30 hours, or they could let the Democrats proceed within the final vote sooner. It’s customary for the minority party to let the final vote happen shortly after cloture is invoked since passage only takes 51 votes and it has just been shown that the majority has at least 60, but the Republicans do stand to benefit by using up as much of the Democrats’ time as they can, so we’ll see.

Once final passage is secured in the Senate, the bill will have to go back to the House for a vote on a concurring to Senate amendment.

On May 28, the House passed a version of this bill that contained the unemployment insurance extension and several controversial tax provisions by a vote of 215-204. On July 1, the House passed a stand-alone unemployment extension bill (H.R. 5618) by an overwhelming 270-152. Given their ability to pass both a stand-alone UI bill and one that includes a bunch of unrelated tax items, they should have no problem passing the Reid Amendment. Besides the UI extension, it contains an extension of the closing date for the first-time homebuyer tax credit, which is fully offset by three non-controversial revenue items, details of which can be found here.

As soon as the House votes favorably on concurring with the Senate amendment, the bill can be sent to President Obama to be signed into law.

Now let me throw in this important disclaimer: This is all at the discretion of Majority Leader Reid and it is subject to change. As we know, Reid has been working simultaneously to have H.R. 5618 ready for a vote as well, and just because the calendar says H.R. 4213 right now doesn’t mean that is definitely what will happen on Tuesday. No matter what, it looks right now like there should be no problem with getting the unemployment extension signed into law by the end of next week. Keep checking this blog or subscribe to the RSS feed for updates.

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Hope06 07/16/2010 12:41pm

Finally, a little hope. Unfortunately, speaking as someone who has not received a check since May, the domino effect has already happened. It is hard enough to be unemployed. Here are some examples: (Not all apply to me, but most do)
1. Auto Insurance Rates have gone up due to credit score;
2. Credit score is bad because of no job;
3. Employers are now looking at credit scores for applicants;
4. Turned down for work because of credit;
5. No mortgage or rent payments means eviction;
6. Eviction could lead to living in car;
7. Car repossessed due to behind in car payment;
8. Borrowed money to go see doctor (for what I thought was minor) who takes cash payments – many doctors will not see a patient without insurance, even if they have cash;
9. Doctor tells patient additional tests are needed;
10. Can’t afford additional tests.

Life altering decisions re a loved one without option. Job = options, unemployment = basic necessities. That’s my rant. Thank you.

Chris51 07/17/2010 9:46am
in reply to Nikikins Jul 17, 2010 7:11am

Thanks for link to great write up.
Since June 1, Social Services are processing 3-4 times more clients with no additional staff at front counter. The workers describe the long lines that reach out of the builidng as “never ending”. Many of their co-workers are leaving on Work Comp leave from the emotional stress.

Did the Republican Senators really believe the problem would go away? They are planning on winning Novembers election under “Fed Deficit” and protecting the smaller business/corporations. This is just a “Smoke Screen”, don’t believe the lie. Take individual names and vote in November.

Follow the money trail on opensecrets.org

notstupid 07/17/2010 6:35am

I am an unemployed (for 1 year) Republican. Fortunately my conservative style has kept me afloat and kept my credit score (in the 99.97th percentile) in tact. However, the fact that the Republicans have been so disprespectful of unemployed fellow citizens is unaccptable. Unemployment Compensation was created after the Great Depression for the purposes of keeping Americans afloat during distressed times such as these, and historically extensions have been kept in place until the unemployment rate declined to an acceptable rate. Apparently the rules have changed. Therefore, my rules have changed. I am no longer a Repulican, nor a Democrat. Neither party is looking out for the best interest of the People. 15,000,000 unemployed = 15,000,000 votes.

Hope06 07/16/2010 3:54pm
in reply to Kerlynne Jul 16, 2010 1:51pm

I wonder why there can’t be a “moratorium” against debt collectors or auto insurance during this crisis. Anytime during a natural disaster, it is against the law to price gouge, such as with water, gasoline, food, etc. This part refers to auto insurance, one of my biggest thorns in my side. I have an excellent driving record. I have always had auto insurance without any claims. Up until I became unemployed, I had low rates. My rates should not be affected by my credit. It is the law that I have this mandated insurance, and it seems auto insurance companies are taking advantage of this “Federal Emergency”. As to the creditors, once told there is no money left, (after years of making payments on time), they should be held off until either a job is secured, or some monies come in.

AmericanMe1 07/17/2010 9:18am
in reply to rufusjuice Jul 16, 2010 11:46am

Vote for Mr. Donny Shaw for our next President.

icandootravel 07/16/2010 1:21pm
in reply to comments5647 Jul 16, 2010 12:23pm

I agree, and I wish they would see all of the peoples prayers. Praying for our senators’ and their families souls for eternity. There are far to many terrified families out there that do not have the basic food, medical and nutrition due to the inability of congress to act. They are clearly very detached from the reality of average americans. Our prayers go out to all those in need.

rufusjuice 07/16/2010 11:46am

Thank you for clearing that up, Mr. Shaw. The debate was getting fiesty on here. We need to continue to contact Senators Snowe and Collins, lest they change their vote. Other Senators as well. I am afraid if the pressure slacks up at all, someone will jump ship.

comments5647 07/16/2010 12:23pm

I hope congress goes to church on this their vacation weekend and repents for being so lazy while the nation suffers many of whom don’t know where their next meal is coming from!!! You were elected to serve especially in a time of CRISIS. God help us all should we be attacked again as you all in congress would GO ON VACATION!!!

Lookup 07/16/2010 12:03pm

I am happy that President Obama went to Maine for vacation. I was thinking when he said come to the gulf spend some money, how I would much rather go to Maine because of the two senators that support unemployment extension. In fact I have also been thinking that if this bill gets passed I will be making a small donation to the state to show my gratitude. I visited the state once and fell in love with Maine. They gave me a visitor’s map and on the front it said “Maine the way life ought to be.” I would like to thank Maine for trying to help us hard working Americans going through this crisis.

lilmamma 07/16/2010 12:19pm

I hope this link will give you hope. It is basically confirmation that the new W.V. Senator Goodwin will vote in favor of the bill. I am in the same boat as many of you. I have been laid off since January of 09. I was laid off while I was on maternity leave with my daughter who is now 18 months. I have been searching high and low for work and have found nothing, so I am hoping this extension will buy me a little bit more time. I have been without benefits for just about one month now and am behind on my bills this month. I know it could be worse but I guess the reality of it is that this is bad for all of us on different levels. I really hope this passes this time. Im so tired of being let down.

http://washingtonindependent.com/91809/rockefeller-goodwin-will-vote-for-unemployment-benefits-extension

Kerlynne 07/16/2010 12:49pm
in reply to Hope06 Jul 16, 2010 12:41pm

11. ran out of money for needed medicine
12. symptoms are returning
13. not sick enough for Social Security
14. need to wait till near death or heart attack
15. waited to long.. died.
16. now the money they could of given me to survive and help the economy, improve my life , credit score and get medicine will now be used to bury me.

strugglingdad 07/18/2010 6:33pm

Me my wife and 3 year son have been reduced to a diet of 1.oo dollar menu cheeseburgers and Ramen Noodles. I often have to sacrifice my portion so they can get somewhat full. We have no electricity so we have to use the neighbors microwave. Pretty embarrassing but I’m thankful they are understanding. They took our car for none payment so we have to ride the bus to libraries and any other place with a/c because it gets so hot in the apt during the day and the night is no different. We get bit up by mosquitos because we have to open all windows and doors to hope for a breeze. I hate seeing my son go through this. He doesn’t deserve it. He’s just an innocent baby. And worse is the first of the month is coming and i’ll be behind 2 months on the rent so they’ll start the eviction process. I really hope these people get they’re act together and think about the people. Put they’re selfs in our position and think about how they would want they’re country to help them. This is sad.

voteoutdemintinsc 07/17/2010 4:05pm

Thought we could use a little humor tonight while we wait…and wait…and wait on this bill to pass. I’m so tired of being pissed off. I laughed for the first time in a very long time…would like to share with all….
Joke: How many politicians does it take to change a lightbulb?
Four, one to change it and the other three to deny it.

Joke: On July 8, 1947, witnesses claim a spaceship with five aliens aboard crashed on a sheep-and-cattle ranch outside Roswell, an incident they say has been covered up by the military. March 31, 1948, nine months after that day, Al Gore was born.That clears up a lot of things.

Joke: Oprah Winfrey just announced that she’s planning to attend Barack Obama’s inauguration. Oprah says she’s very excited to see Obama become the second-most powerful person in the world." —Conan O’Brien

Joke: Definition of an elephant: A mouse built to government specifications.

UnemployedWorkersActionGroup 07/18/2010 6:18pm

Whether or not the Republicans vote for 4213, at this point, they all STILL DESERVE TO BE VOTED OUT OF OFFICE just for making us all suffer so long, worrying over it.

They are playing political games with people’s lives, plain and simple. They do not deserve to be re-elected.

Furthermore, even the Democrats deserve our wrath because there is NOTHING ON THE TABLE FOR 99ers! Even if this current bill passes (4213 or 5618, basically the same bill), there is NOTHING IN IT FOR US 99ers. Pelosi said there will be NO TIER 5.

So all those people who have already been evicted or foreclosed on, raided their 401k’s, sold their jewelry, moved into their cars… all of those people have been abandoned by OUR CONGRESS AND OUR PRESIDENT.

THIS IS A STATE OF EMERGENCY and the fact that they are doing nothing for us 99ers means we have to VOTE ALL THE AHOLES OUT.
uwag.org

Hope06 07/16/2010 1:01pm
in reply to Kerlynne Jul 16, 2010 12:35pm

@ Kerlynne: I know exactly how you feel. I did the same last week (200 + miles to another state because I have family there). I’ve been told I’m over qualified, under qualified, they will keep my resume for 6 months, etc. 50+ women are not getting the jobs, period. It is discrimination, employers knowing they cannot discriminate state other factors instead. Please see my rant at Hope06. We are too young for some government assistance, and/or too old for same. Baby Boomers are screwed in this economy. I wish you the best.

comments5647 07/16/2010 12:19pm

So once again “the checks in the mail” well we shall see. “They” have used this unemployment issue as their political football and seem to be “enjoying” their football game immensely at the expense of the suffering American people. I don’t expect congress to help and anyone who does truly needs their head examined. The Senate WENT ON VACATION AGAIN out for this weekend! I think the Republicans will try to filibuster again the entire 30 hours just because they get some sick enjoyment out of stealing our nations prosperity first all and second of all then watching us all squirm in pain. I hope they all lose their jobs in November and their families suffer as ours have, immensely, like we have from this economic disaster they brought on this nation!!! I am so ashamed of this congress particularly the Republicans!!! They could have found the money to fund the extension a month ago without borrowing if they had just spent five minutes looking!!!!

Kerlynne 07/16/2010 4:05pm
in reply to beenblue Jul 16, 2010 3:52pm

they gave themselves a raise? when did they do that I like that phrase…
remember november……. pull the trigger people say it on anything and everything you write!!!!

REMEMBER NOVEMBER!

buddyg1 07/16/2010 3:43pm

Here’s an example; G.I. Joe was receiving UI benefits from his Tier #1 enrollment on May 30, 2010. He had 3 more weeks of benefits left on which he was available to collect. G.I. Joe remained unemployed and collected his final 3 weeks of benefits from Tier #1. Since the deadline for extending to Tier #2 was May 30, 2010, G.I. Joe was not eligible and has not received any UI benefits since the third week of June when Tier #1 ran out. When congress approves H.R. 4213 extending the extension deadline from May 30 to November 30, 2010, G.I. Joe will then be eligible for enrollment in Tier #2 retroactive to the day after Tier #1 ended. If he remains unemployed consecutively for up to 14 weeks, he is then eligible for enrollment in Tier #3, because it will occur before November 30.

starvinmarvininCA 07/16/2010 12:29pm

All of the damn foot dragging is beyond me-JUST GET IT DONE ALREADY-and if they think for one minute that any of us who have suffered through endless weeks without money and no prospects for a job are going to forget all about this IF AND WHEN we finally do get our money they are out of their minds-I FOR ONE AM CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO. November is our time to show them what it’s like to be out in the cold-don’t miss your opportunity to show these fine representatives of the people-LOL what we think of them. VOTE THEM ALL OUT AND LET’S START FRESH!!

artledoux 07/17/2010 1:28am
in reply to laidbackjt Jul 16, 2010 2:16pm

There is 352 billion that has not been allocated.
The unemployment money does stimulate the economy because it gets spent.
Money that is saved does not get circulated and there fore has a
negative affect. When the money is spent it has a circulating affect
and it has a multiplying affect.
Art LeDoux

understanding 07/17/2010 6:36am
in reply to buddyg1 Jul 17, 2010 4:49am

The Congressional GOP had gotten called out by President Obama on his Saturday address for holding up the Unemployment Benefits Bill. It is being tweeted right now on twitter so I don’t know which bill was being addressed.

Kerlynne 07/16/2010 12:35pm

THEY STILL ARE TAKING AWAY THE $25 A WEEK STIMULUS MONEY….Why couldn’t they just have left it alone? and just passed it the way it was? Now they are playing this way and that way with games that affect all of our lives.
I was just turned down for a job I had to drive 100 mile round trip too, had a 15 minute interview with, because I just didn’t fit the job requirements??? They saw my resume!!! It is like they are having cattle calls,"sorry you are too fat, too ugly too old!! I gave up food money to buy gas money for a company that is prejudice with someone that is 50+. The governement needs to give job credits to companies that hire 55+ or give it to us! I am so angry about this!! OH plus they paid peanuts!! But I was going to take it…cry

comments5647 07/16/2010 3:49pm
in reply to Hope06 Jul 16, 2010 1:20pm

@Hope06 Please take congress with you especially those Republican senators who kept saying we don’t want to add to the deficit yet were too darn lazy to find the additional funds in to extend our unemployment. Take them with you as shark bait we will name schools after you and government buildings!!!

sruthj217 07/16/2010 6:01pm

>>
We need your help for one last push. Between now and next Tuesday, it is imperative that you keep calling and emailing both your Senators and Representatives to let them know how important it is that they vote yes on this bill. We need to hold all the votes together and get this done!
>>

Wow, that cannot be underestimated enough.

It looks like the Dems, Collins and Snowe know what they are doing and we have every reason to believe Reid should have his 60 votes to get closure on 4213 and finally end debate on the standalone bill. That is provided Reid does not change the bill from the 30th and keeps it the same.

However every day that passes risks something happening – a scandal, a natural disaster, a teabag demonstration or even another death in Congress – that could ruin this bill and start it all over again.

For this to go into August recess would be disastrous. There will be foreclosures. Please keep contact and don’t let up. For all our sakes and for the economy!

Nikikins 07/17/2010 7:11am

I found this article interesting, and thought I’d share it with all of you.

http://www.capitolnewsconnection.org/news/congress-and-americas-unemployment-crisis

My favorite part is how it calls out the STUPID lawmakers in each state who opposed to extending benefits!

voteoutdemintinsc 07/17/2010 2:07pm

Hello all. Just thought i would give you the web address to Tom Clements Web page so you could see what he stands for. Remember we really need to get his name in the media. Everyone, not just SC residents. As you can see Jim DeMint does not only give a shit less about SC, He does’nt give a rip about anyone on unemployment! Please help get Clements in the media, he is SC only chance to get DeMint in the unemployment line, (we in SC think Alvin Green is a joke). Also, if you send him an email, or comment, he will respond asap. I emailed him last week and had a wonderful conversation, He is ready to bring the “Rain” on Demint.

Thank you for your help! And I am praying for everyone on unemployment, and remember, God does not like ugly! and these senators, Dems and Republicans will pay one day, God help them all on judgement day.

http://clementsforsenate.com/
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Tom-Clements-for-US-Senate/128952760459672?ref=ts

voteoutdemintinsc 07/16/2010 4:33pm

FYI…I am from SC and have always voted Republican. The Republicans in SC are pissed and upset over what is going on in Congress, and about the Unemployment. I have been unemployed since June, 2009. I have 2 Members in my immediate family as well that were layed off around the same time. Remember folks, we know who we need to vote out of office in SC, and we plan on doing it!!!

Let me update yall(spoken very southern:)on the situation in SC for the Senate Race in November. We did’nt think we had a snowballs chance in hell of voting out DeMint because he was running against “dumbass action figure Green”. Well now we have a little hope…Tom Clements of SC was nominated by the “Green Party” and will be running against DeMint in Nov. Funny though, no media coverage on this. Check him out on facebook….We Republicans like him! Please help get his name out for SC!

beenblue 07/16/2010 2:14pm

I`m not sure where I`v seen the Republicans come up with Any ways to pay as you go for the unemployment crisis, I`m curious as to where ALL the money I paid into FICA, and Social security went to, sure am glad that Bush didn`t get to privatize social security, I`m pretty sure it would have gone the way of the 401k !!! The Republican Party seem`s to have one idea for this country, FINISH WHAT THEY STARTED, then stand back and watch it burn…

Abaratarrr 07/16/2010 4:21pm
in reply to Christine58 Jul 16, 2010 4:10pm

stand alone bills have been proposed numerous times by both democrats and republicans, reid could of let an extension pass months ago but he has refused to allow for a vote on anything but 4213. Reid has said before 4213 or nothing, he is holding us hostage so he can get money for his pet projects.

Sannybeth 07/16/2010 4:56pm
in reply to beenblue Jul 16, 2010 3:52pm

There’s a bill HR 4720, Taking responsibility for congressional pay act, which proposes a reduction in pay for congress. Too bad they are the ones who get to vote on it. I’ve been emailing my local news stations and the network news trying to get the media to talk about it but nobody will. No way will they vote for it unless they are shamed into to.

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