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Update on Tuesday's Unemployment Vote

July 16, 2010 - by Donny Shaw

As some of you have noted in the comments, in my post last night on what’s been going on with the unemployment bill, I came to the wrong conclusion about which bill — H.R. 4213 or H.R. 5618 — would be getting a vote on Tuesday. Because, as I explained, Senate Democrats had been setting up the procedure for bringing H.R. 5618 to the Senate floor directly (skipping the committee process), I figured that was the bill they were planning to move forward with. However, shortly after publishing the post, new information was posted on the Senate calendar that indicated H.R. 4213 would actually be the bill getting a vote.

Here’s what it in the Congressional Record Daily Digest for Thursday about Tuesday’s vote:

A unanimous-consent agreement was reached providing that at 2:30 p.m., on Tuesday, July 20, 2010, Senate resume consideration of the amendment of the House of Representatives to the amendment of the Senate to H.R. 4213, to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to extend certain expiring provisions; that the motion to reconsider be agreed to, and Senate vote on the motion to invoke cloture on the motion to concur in the House amendment to the Senate amendment to the bill with Reid Amendment No. 4425 (to the amendment of the House to the amendment of the Senate to the bill), in the nature of a substitute.

This is the same exact motion and the same exact amendment that the Senate voted on on June 30. It was effectively filibustered then by a vote of 58-38, but, remember, Majority Leader Sen. Harry Reid [D, NV] only voted “nay” in order to preserve his right under Senate rules to bring the bill back up for another vote. If another senator had voted “aye,” Reid would have switched his vote to an “aye” in order to secure the 60 votes that are needed to break a filibuster. On Tuesday, after Carte Goodwin (Byrd’s replacement) is sworn in, the Democrats will have 60 votes to break the Republican-led filibuster and pass the cloture motion.

Once cloture passes, the Senate will then have to vote on passage of the “motion to concur in the House amendment to the Senate amendment to the bill with Reid Amendment No. 4425” within 30 hours. The Republicans could choose to keep the debate open for the full 30 hours, or they could let the Democrats proceed within the final vote sooner. It’s customary for the minority party to let the final vote happen shortly after cloture is invoked since passage only takes 51 votes and it has just been shown that the majority has at least 60, but the Republicans do stand to benefit by using up as much of the Democrats’ time as they can, so we’ll see.

Once final passage is secured in the Senate, the bill will have to go back to the House for a vote on a concurring to Senate amendment.

On May 28, the House passed a version of this bill that contained the unemployment insurance extension and several controversial tax provisions by a vote of 215-204. On July 1, the House passed a stand-alone unemployment extension bill (H.R. 5618) by an overwhelming 270-152. Given their ability to pass both a stand-alone UI bill and one that includes a bunch of unrelated tax items, they should have no problem passing the Reid Amendment. Besides the UI extension, it contains an extension of the closing date for the first-time homebuyer tax credit, which is fully offset by three non-controversial revenue items, details of which can be found here.

As soon as the House votes favorably on concurring with the Senate amendment, the bill can be sent to President Obama to be signed into law.

Now let me throw in this important disclaimer: This is all at the discretion of Majority Leader Reid and it is subject to change. As we know, Reid has been working simultaneously to have H.R. 5618 ready for a vote as well, and just because the calendar says H.R. 4213 right now doesn’t mean that is definitely what will happen on Tuesday. No matter what, it looks right now like there should be no problem with getting the unemployment extension signed into law by the end of next week. Keep checking this blog or subscribe to the RSS feed for updates.

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    understanding 07/17/2010 6:49am

    For the South Carolina folks:

    COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) – State officials are preparing unemployment checks so they’re ready if congress votes to extend benefits next week. The Department of Employment and Workforce expects to have the checks available for most people in the next weekly cycle.

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    Nikikins 07/17/2010 7:01am

    For all of us Californians, this is what EDD says:

    The Employment Development Department (EDD) continues to closely monitor Congressional debate in Washington about authorizing further availability of federal unemployment extension benefits. It now appears the U.S. Senate is poised to consider a bill next week that would RETROACTIVELY restore access to federal extension benefits and extend filing deadlines through November. If passed, the measure would then need to return to the House of Representatives for final action.

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    newberbm 07/17/2010 7:02am

    Does anyone know about Oklahoma and their plan on getting the back pay out ?

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    voteoutdemintinsc 07/19/2010 12:44pm

    How did you come to this information? I cant get a response from anyone in Columbia or here at home. They said they did not have a clue. Columbia office won’t even answer the phone,….assholes, been trying for 2 weeks strait. You dont have to reveal your source, just let me know if you are POSITIVE about this for People getting their checks next week if this passes tomorrow.

  • notstupid 07/17/2010 6:35am

    I am an unemployed (for 1 year) Republican. Fortunately my conservative style has kept me afloat and kept my credit score (in the 99.97th percentile) in tact. However, the fact that the Republicans have been so disprespectful of unemployed fellow citizens is unaccptable. Unemployment Compensation was created after the Great Depression for the purposes of keeping Americans afloat during distressed times such as these, and historically extensions have been kept in place until the unemployment rate declined to an acceptable rate. Apparently the rules have changed. Therefore, my rules have changed. I am no longer a Repulican, nor a Democrat. Neither party is looking out for the best interest of the People. 15,000,000 unemployed = 15,000,000 votes.

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    comments5647 07/18/2010 7:50am

    I too am a former Republican, very conservative, who will join you in voting in a conservative (fiscally, socially, and politically)to lead us out of this economic and political nonsense.

  • Nikikins 07/17/2010 7:11am

    I found this article interesting, and thought I’d share it with all of you.

    My favorite part is how it calls out the STUPID lawmakers in each state who opposed to extending benefits!

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    Chris51 07/17/2010 9:46am

    Thanks for link to great write up.
    Since June 1, Social Services are processing 3-4 times more clients with no additional staff at front counter. The workers describe the long lines that reach out of the builidng as “never ending”. Many of their co-workers are leaving on Work Comp leave from the emotional stress.

    Did the Republican Senators really believe the problem would go away? They are planning on winning Novembers election under “Fed Deficit” and protecting the smaller business/corporations. This is just a “Smoke Screen”, don’t believe the lie. Take individual names and vote in November.

    Follow the money trail on

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    Abaratarrr 07/17/2010 12:19pm

    Good article but what bugs me is that they omitted the state of Nevada which has an unemployment rate of 14% and the fact that their senator Harry Reid has blocked extensions on more then 5 occasions.

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    Hope06 07/17/2010 12:46pm

    When they break it down by city or county it gets worse in Nevada. Las Vegas is hit extremely hard. Harry Reid (and his son, Rory Reid, should he get elected) are great actors. Rory is shutting down firehouses and heavy rescue, endangering the many lives of not only our residents but also the lives of these firefighters. When nepotism runs in families, such as the Reid family and just about any other political family, they remain for generations untouched and out of the reality of us regular folk. As an added bonus, these people (not just the Reids)are stating unemployment claims are down. They are down because we cannot file! Maybe it should be mandated that there must be a generation gap between running for public office, forcing politicians to run on their own merits instead of off the merits of their parents. Thank you.

  • jackcyngail 07/17/2010 7:29am

    Thanks again Donny.
    Does this mean the 25 dollars is back in?

  • laidbackjt 07/17/2010 10:36am

    Obama finally directly addresses unemployment insurance and slams the GOP:

    Bravo Mr. President!

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    Abaratarrr 07/17/2010 12:29pm

    I am glad oboma is finanly talking about the unemployed it took him what 2 years to realize we exist. this is nuts bushy boy extended unemployment benefits more then oboma has and the economy was no where near as bad as it is now.

    Ans why didn’t Oboma say anything about Reid blocking unemployment extension repeatedly or the fact that reid will not allow for a vote on a stand alone unemployment extension that isn;t packed full of special interest money?

    There are two reasons we don;t have an extension, Reid and polosi,
    4213 passed the senate march 10 pelosi let it set on her desk for over two month when she knew it would have passed immidiatly but there would be no controversy or anyone to blame if she would have let it pass 3 months ago. And Reid has blocked more extensions then the republicans have.

  • PleaseHelpTheUnemployed 07/17/2010 11:47am

    That $25 dollars a week makes a tremendous difference, but as long as the bill gets pass even without it, it’ll even make a bigger difference; at least I’ll be able to put food on the table.

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    Kerlynne 07/17/2010 1:00pm

    THE 25$ A WEEK

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    Kerlynne 07/17/2010 1:04pm

    DOES PUT FOOD albeit a little, FOOD ON MY TABLE. That is one reason I keep talking about it here.Dang near screaming about it! They are screwing around and messing around, trying to be somekind of person with a plan and strengthen some vantage point they think they have by doing this. JUST let us have what we were getting and then work on getting us jobs!!! Especially the baby boomer 50+. Let us retire or compensate us somehow. I am just getting pissy now….sigh

  • strugglingdad 07/17/2010 12:33pm

    Can anybody tell me what the difference is between the two unemployment bills in question?

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    understanding 07/17/2010 1:30pm

    I blame both Congress and the President. We never should have been put in this situation in the first place. There are always abusers to the system. Take example, Bernie Madoff, he ripped people off in his Wall Street dealings, yet Congress still gave Wall Street billions. What did The Wall Streeters do with it but to give themselves bonuses.

  • voteoutdemintinsc 07/17/2010 2:07pm

    Hello all. Just thought i would give you the web address to Tom Clements Web page so you could see what he stands for. Remember we really need to get his name in the media. Everyone, not just SC residents. As you can see Jim DeMint does not only give a shit less about SC, He does’nt give a rip about anyone on unemployment! Please help get Clements in the media, he is SC only chance to get DeMint in the unemployment line, (we in SC think Alvin Green is a joke). Also, if you send him an email, or comment, he will respond asap. I emailed him last week and had a wonderful conversation, He is ready to bring the “Rain” on Demint.

    Thank you for your help! And I am praying for everyone on unemployment, and remember, God does not like ugly! and these senators, Dems and Republicans will pay one day, God help them all on judgement day.

  • FltcLady 07/17/2010 2:43pm

    I am new to this blog and blogging at all! So be patient with me. I am hoping this bill passes soon, but am I right … does it expire on Nov. 30th? Does this mean we are in the same boat in just a few months?

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    voteoutdemintinsc 07/17/2010 3:12pm

    If they vote on HR 4213 then yes we will be in the same boat come November. The November 30th date is the deadline to file for Emergency Federal Funds. Ex: if your funds are exhaulsted on Nov. 15th and your are elgible for the next tier, you will receive that money as usual until it is gone.But if your funds run out on December 1, 2010, we are once again screwed unless they pass another extended date which is highly unlikly.

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    dedgar 07/17/2010 3:25pm

    Yes. The emergency unemployment compensation Tiers will expire on Nov. 30th. I think you may be able to finish out the Tier you are in, but you won’t be able to advance to the next Tier. For example, if you finish Tier 3 in December, your EUC is gone (unless Congress acts again, but don’t count on it). Trying to get it extended to Nov. 30th has been one major roller coaster ride.

    I’m not a fan of soap opera’s, and therefore do not appreciate all this congressional drama (vent).

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    Kerlynne 07/17/2010 5:08pm

    Only if they vote to pass the bill they have in hand now FltcLady…

  • strugglingdad 07/17/2010 3:16pm

    I don’t know if its because i’m young and didn’t pay to much attention in History but can somebody explain why the president can’t step in on this whole unemployment issue? Its obvious that he feels the pain of the struggling americans but why can’t he step in…him being the president and put fire under they’re feet?

  • voteoutdemintinsc 07/17/2010 3:46pm

    Go to this blog titled: Executive Orders and Unemployment Insurance Benefits
    June 25, 2010 – by Donny Shaw.
    Go to the Open Congress Home page and select all blogs…its somewhere on the 3rd page of blogs. Mr. Shaw explains everything in detail that you are wanting to know. Hope this helps.

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    strugglingdad 07/17/2010 4:52pm

    Hey thanks. Helped a bunch

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  • voteoutdemintinsc 07/17/2010 4:05pm

    Thought we could use a little humor tonight while we wait…and wait…and wait on this bill to pass. I’m so tired of being pissed off. I laughed for the first time in a very long time…would like to share with all….
    Joke: How many politicians does it take to change a lightbulb?
    Four, one to change it and the other three to deny it.

    Joke: On July 8, 1947, witnesses claim a spaceship with five aliens aboard crashed on a sheep-and-cattle ranch outside Roswell, an incident they say has been covered up by the military. March 31, 1948, nine months after that day, Al Gore was born.That clears up a lot of things.

    Joke: Oprah Winfrey just announced that she’s planning to attend Barack Obama’s inauguration. Oprah says she’s very excited to see Obama become the second-most powerful person in the world." —Conan O’Brien

    Joke: Definition of an elephant: A mouse built to government specifications.

  • Chris51 07/17/2010 9:46pm

    “Tough S**t” to the millions of Americans who were sent to the unemployment lines, by the Republican Leadership under President Bush and Vice President Cheney.
    Why didn’t the Republican Senators take this type of hard-line attitude when they were digging the USA into the largest Fed. Deficit. ? (Oil War: Total Cost 1.6 TRILLION. Bank Bailout: $700 BILLION in October 2008 (prior to Obama Administration) Tax Breaks: Cost 1.8 TRILLION so far (most went to high incomes earners of $250,000+, and the rest of America received on average $100).
    Why did they wait 10 years to filibuster?!
    Why is Jim Bunning( R-KE)not afraid to express how he truly feels?!
    Are POLITICIANS expressing how they agree with Jim Bunning by voting against UI Ext Bills, but not expressing it the same?!

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