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Update on Tuesday's Unemployment Vote

July 16, 2010 - by Donny Shaw

As some of you have noted in the comments, in my post last night on what’s been going on with the unemployment bill, I came to the wrong conclusion about which bill — H.R. 4213 or H.R. 5618 — would be getting a vote on Tuesday. Because, as I explained, Senate Democrats had been setting up the procedure for bringing H.R. 5618 to the Senate floor directly (skipping the committee process), I figured that was the bill they were planning to move forward with. However, shortly after publishing the post, new information was posted on the Senate calendar that indicated H.R. 4213 would actually be the bill getting a vote.

Here’s what it in the Congressional Record Daily Digest for Thursday about Tuesday’s vote:

A unanimous-consent agreement was reached providing that at 2:30 p.m., on Tuesday, July 20, 2010, Senate resume consideration of the amendment of the House of Representatives to the amendment of the Senate to H.R. 4213, to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to extend certain expiring provisions; that the motion to reconsider be agreed to, and Senate vote on the motion to invoke cloture on the motion to concur in the House amendment to the Senate amendment to the bill with Reid Amendment No. 4425 (to the amendment of the House to the amendment of the Senate to the bill), in the nature of a substitute.

This is the same exact motion and the same exact amendment that the Senate voted on on June 30. It was effectively filibustered then by a vote of 58-38, but, remember, Majority Leader Sen. Harry Reid [D, NV] only voted “nay” in order to preserve his right under Senate rules to bring the bill back up for another vote. If another senator had voted “aye,” Reid would have switched his vote to an “aye” in order to secure the 60 votes that are needed to break a filibuster. On Tuesday, after Carte Goodwin (Byrd’s replacement) is sworn in, the Democrats will have 60 votes to break the Republican-led filibuster and pass the cloture motion.

Once cloture passes, the Senate will then have to vote on passage of the “motion to concur in the House amendment to the Senate amendment to the bill with Reid Amendment No. 4425” within 30 hours. The Republicans could choose to keep the debate open for the full 30 hours, or they could let the Democrats proceed within the final vote sooner. It’s customary for the minority party to let the final vote happen shortly after cloture is invoked since passage only takes 51 votes and it has just been shown that the majority has at least 60, but the Republicans do stand to benefit by using up as much of the Democrats’ time as they can, so we’ll see.

Once final passage is secured in the Senate, the bill will have to go back to the House for a vote on a concurring to Senate amendment.

On May 28, the House passed a version of this bill that contained the unemployment insurance extension and several controversial tax provisions by a vote of 215-204. On July 1, the House passed a stand-alone unemployment extension bill (H.R. 5618) by an overwhelming 270-152. Given their ability to pass both a stand-alone UI bill and one that includes a bunch of unrelated tax items, they should have no problem passing the Reid Amendment. Besides the UI extension, it contains an extension of the closing date for the first-time homebuyer tax credit, which is fully offset by three non-controversial revenue items, details of which can be found here.

As soon as the House votes favorably on concurring with the Senate amendment, the bill can be sent to President Obama to be signed into law.

Now let me throw in this important disclaimer: This is all at the discretion of Majority Leader Reid and it is subject to change. As we know, Reid has been working simultaneously to have H.R. 5618 ready for a vote as well, and just because the calendar says H.R. 4213 right now doesn’t mean that is definitely what will happen on Tuesday. No matter what, it looks right now like there should be no problem with getting the unemployment extension signed into law by the end of next week. Keep checking this blog or subscribe to the RSS feed for updates.

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    Chris51 07/17/2010 9:51pm

    Do you think they have lost any sleep over your struggles if you are one of the million Americans who have been sent to the unemployment line, Social Service Welfare or your local food bank?!
    Story in HuffingtonPost describes the attitude of the Senators: Sen. Jim Bunning (R-KE) made himself a pariah when he singlehandedly blocked a reauthorization of unemployment benefits back in February, saying “tough s**t” to a Democratic senator’s request to help the long-term jobless…

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    Chris51 07/17/2010 9:55pm

    -Eight years of Bush Admin. has made our GOP, their Special Interest Groups, and a few wealthy family and friends of Bush/Cheney “Fat Cats” and they want to ensure themselves more money and power with the November’s election.
    Obama speaks out on this disapproval of the Repubs block of UI Extensions, since before July 4th.Sample of special interest and lobbyist:
    Oil&Gas Industry Contribution 2009-2010
    Koch Industries $724,300, Dems 14%, Repubs 86%
    (Kosh has made big contributions to FreedomWorks, a non-profit that funds Tea Party… read full story on sourcewatch.org)
    2009 Lobbyist 779, Total for Oil & Gas: $174,713,324, Top 5 Total Contributions : Exxon Mobil $27,430,000; Chevron Corp $20,815,000; Conoco Phillips $18,069,858; BP $15,990,000; Koch Industries $12,340,000
    2008 Lobbyist 823, Total for Oil & Gas: $134,475,402, Top 5 Total Contributions : Exxon Mobil $29,000,000; Koch Industries $17,930,000; Chevron Corp $12,844,000; BP $10,450,000; Conoco Phillips $8,459,053.

  • walkdawg 07/17/2010 10:38pm

    H.R. 5618 stated that the $25.00 stimulus pay would decease, a new tier would open, and that the unemployed would be retroactively back paid for weeks not compenstated. Since H.R.4213 is the bill being voted on is H.R. 4213 going to back pay the unemployed.

  • walkdawg 07/17/2010 10:41pm

    Is H.R.4213 going to allow the unemployed to recieve back pay?

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    Nikikins 07/18/2010 4:58am

    Hi Walkdawg (and everyone else who is wondering (I just noticed that if you click on the link in this article entitled “Reid Amendment No. 4425”, you’ll see within the first paragraph (last sentence I think) it indicates that it will be retroactive.

    Good luck to you and everyone else sailing on this unemployed ship! Victory for us is hopefully right around the corner..don’t give up. :)

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    Chris51 07/18/2010 5:43am

    Taxpayer Funded Bailouts;
    AIG $128,500,000,000 B
    FreddieMac $45,600,000,000 B
    Citigroup $45,000,000,000 B
    BofA $45,000,000,000 B
    Chase $25,000,000,000 B
    WellsFargo $25,000,000,000 B
    FannieMae 16,2000,000,000 B
    GeneralMotors $13,400,000,000 B
    GoldmanSachs$10,000,000,000 B
    MorganStanley $10,000,000,000 B

    This info is from another blogger who is not identified.

  • Chris51 07/18/2010 5:48am

    Message from President Obama.
    Read or watch full message at Whitehouse.gov:
    Unemployment insurance is a vital lifeline for many families struggling to find work in these tough times. Over the past few weeks, that lifeline has disappeared for more than 2 million Americans, and if Congress doesn’t act, that number will grow to 3.2 million people by the end of this month.
    Getting our economy back on track hasn’t been easy, but passing important legislation to support small businesses and Americans looking for work has proved nearly impossible. Repeatedly, Republicans have used procedural maneuvers to deny this legislation an up or down vote.
    There may be a lot of controversial topics out there, but support for small businesses and unemployment insurance shouldn’t be among them.
    It’s time for an up or down vote on these important measures. It’s time for Congress to act…

  • Kerlynne 07/18/2010 6:12am

    I got this from washington state unemployment site-
    Unemployment benefits news
    Emergency unemployment compensation (EUC)
    The EUC program expired on June 2, 2010. The U.S. House passed legislation to extend the dates people can apply for and receive EUC benefits, but the bill is currently stalled in the Senate. The Senate is not expected to take the bill up again until July 12, 2010 or later.
    If the bill becomes law people will be able to apply for EUC until November 2010 and receive benefits until May 2011.
    This bill only extends the dates claimants may apply for and receive EUC – it does not add more weeks of EUC benefits.
    -———
    Isn’t it being said that once November comes up no more money is going to be paid out??

    If you have already run out of your extensions, this bill will not add money for you.
    ____________

  • gerryd 07/18/2010 6:55am

    Can someone please clarify something for me? I am from PA, was on the 4th week of my EB mail in claim forms then they stopped. If either of these bills pass, will I still be eligible for the remaining 16 weeks. I am confused because I was told that the PA rate is now NOT high???? Then why have I applied for over 85 plus jobs and only received 2 interviews – one a 5 minute phone call, and one a walk-in and have not heard anything but rejection from most of the others?? These politicians have been using the unemployed people as bartering chips or pawns for the sake of their bi-partisian in-fighting. This whole system has me actually physically ill and after working for well over 30 years and living an honest, good, life to be demeaned not only by my employer but by the Leaders as well. How much more degradation can we take? I guess my main question is will I still be entitled to the full 99 weeks?

  • gerryd 07/18/2010 6:57am

    Will either bill if passed allow anyone from PA who was doing the mail-in claim forms to be allowed to continue to do so? Does the 99 weeks include the EB. I was told PA is no longer a high percentage rate??

  • gerryd 07/18/2010 7:06am

    Help me please? Does anyone know if the PA Extended Benefits would still continue under either of these two bills? It is so confusing and distressing and I am absol;utely at my wit’s end with worry.

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    understanding 07/18/2010 8:08am

    Gerryd, I am under EB as well so I am not sure whether my benefits will continue. If not, I would be in a bad way.

    I did find this information:

    http://unemployedworkers.org/sites/unemployedworkers/index.php/resources/resource_entry/extended_benefits.

  • widget02us 07/18/2010 9:05am

    GO TO CHANGE.ORG AND VOTE FOR TIER V!!!!! HERE IS A DIRECT LINK TO THE PETITION:
    http://www.change.org/petitions/view/the_99ers_need_a_tier_v_added_to_unemployment_benefits

  • roze4u 07/18/2010 9:27am

    I checked the votes. I saw which party voted against the extension. It was the republicans. Excuses have been put foreword that it’s the deficit. Please! I also checked the votes for the bailout!! Check that out everyone!! Some even voted for the bailout then against regulation and against UE extensions. What! Um…..I think the bailout may have added to the deficit republicans or am I wrong? Is this a reverse Robin-hood story or what! Thank god I have a secure job but I have friends who have not been so lucky. To address the comments of some republicans and you know who you are… They are NOT lazy, they are NOT hobos, and they do not make more money collecting unemployment than their jobs paid them nor are they all just unwilling to take whatever is available! For those of you that made these comments, I hope you find yourself unemployed in November!

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    Abaratarrr 07/18/2010 12:42pm

    so you are saying that you were for cutting social security benefits to retirees and for the government to be able to charge retroactive taxes, ie the ability for the government to raise a tax rate this year and then back charge that tax rate for 2007 2008 and 2009?

    Both of those items were in 4213.

    why won’t Reid allow for a vote on 5618 a standalone unemployment bill that isn;t packed fill of earmarks. Why has Reid blocked more unemployment extensions then the republicans? (Harry Reid is not a republican) Reid is the reason we are suffering.

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    BigCat 07/18/2010 1:00pm

    Not just Reid Abaratarr, least we not forget the OTHER democrat who sunk the bill on June 30th, Nelson of Nebraska.

    Heck, it took 6 weeks for the ‘Annointed One’ (Obama) to speak about unemployment in the recent NBC interview. He waits until the week before a bill will almost cetainly pass, and THEN he speaks out? WHat a fraud!

    On his behalf though, Obama did create one VERY important job last week – a National Food Czar. One job, inside his administration. A position which will tell us stupid Americans what we can eat, and when.

    I feel better already :-)

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  • ihatetheman 07/18/2010 12:11pm

    AND YES I WILL BE UNEMPLOYED IN NOVEMBER BECAUSE I WILL NEVER WORK FOR THE MAN AGAIN! ITS A LIE, THE GOVERNMENT DOESN’T WANT U TO KNOW THAT THERE IS NO LAW THAT SAYS THE WORKING PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY TAXES, THEY JUST COLLECT THE $$$$, JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, ITS NOT LIKE THEY GIVE US A CHOICE, THEY JUST TAKE IT OUT OF OUR CHECKS, EAT SHIT WILL NEVER DO THAT AGAIN BUT BEST BELIEF THAT I HAVE COLLECTED FOR OVER 1.5 YEARS AND WILL CONTINUE TO TAKE TAKE TAKE UNTIL IT ALL RUNS OUT!!!!

  • gerryd 07/18/2010 1:50pm

    Does everyone notice how the unemployed are basically ignored on all the news networks? All Republican owned I suppose. We are really getting the shaft for sure fron BOTH parties. Now they are saying that PA is not a high unemployment state? They can say whatever they want and how do we dispute them? I guess being honest and hard working does not pay off too well!!! This has been one long, pathetic, sad situation of just seeing how much people like us mean to the people we voted for. I WILL NEVER VOTE AGAIN!!!!!!! EVER!!!!!!!!

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    BigCat 07/19/2010 9:15am

    LOL @ all news networks being owned by republicans. What rock do you live under gerry? The mainstream TV media is so liberally biased it isn’t even funny. FOX is the lone TV network which leans conservative.

  • PleaseHelpTheUnemployed 07/18/2010 2:07pm

    I don’t know how many more $.99 double cheeseburgers I can take!

  • gerryd 07/18/2010 2:24pm

    DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS NOW IN PA? I WAS TOLD BY U/C OFFICE THAT THEY SAID THE RATE WENT DOEN IN MAY? HARD TO BELIEVE THAT ONE!!!! I WAS IN THE 4TH WEEK OF GETTING MY STATE EB BENEFITS WHEN THEY STOPPED. AM I ENTITLED TO ANYMORE?? THIS IS SO CONFUSING? GOD I WISH I HAD MY JOB BACK. THE PLACE THAT TERMINATED ME FIRED 25 PEOPLE AND EVERYONE WAS REPLACED AND OUT OF ALL OF US, ONLY ONE HAS FOUND ANOTHER JOB!!!!! I HAVE APPLIED FOR OVER 85 JOBS SO FAR AND GOT 2 INTERVIEWS AND MANY, MANY, “WILL KEEP ON FILE” LETTERS!!!! GOD HELP US ALL!!!!

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  • ihatetheman 07/18/2010 2:48pm

    u know its bad when mcdonalds doesn’t even call u back

  • eavina30 07/18/2010 4:23pm

    These Republicans are glorified money launderers that run our government in the form of a mob, we need more transparency in our government. They shouldn’t be re-elected if they aren’t smarter than a college professor, remember people, these Senators and Congressman do not care about you, there actors. We are all collateral damage and if we don’t fight and unite then we could see another filibuster come tuesday…..watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDOb8E7D8tc fuck republicans and the racist tea party

  • eavina30 07/18/2010 4:24pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDOb8E7D8tc

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    Chris51 07/18/2010 8:03pm

    Great post/video! Shows where the politicians stand on UI Ext., and what politicians do best… avoid the truth, twist the truth, and try to deceive Americans.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDOb8E7D8tc

    1. Do Mitch McConnell(R-KY)& GOP understand Americans are unemployed, but not stupid. They can continue to manipulate the numbers GDP to Deficit percentage in attempt to win in November’s election.
    2. Do McConnell and GOP really think Americans can’t add, and figure how the Fed. Deficit got into the Trillions$?
    Let’s see, here is just a small list of the dollars Bush Administration/GOP started piling up in USAs Fed. Deficit: Two Oil War, Total Cost 1.6 TRILLION; Bank Bailout, $700 BILLION in October 2008 (prior to Obama Administration); Tax Breaks, Cost 1.8 TRILLION so far (most went to high incomes earners of $250,000+, and the rest of America received on average $100), Prescription Overhaul Bill…
    Americans are unemployed, but not stupid. VOTE SMART IN NOVEMBER.

  • saturnsc2 07/18/2010 4:31pm

    can someone set me straight on the extra $25.00? first of all my name is Greg. i’m new here, & have been laid off since november 2008. ya i’m just another one of those lazy people who don’t want to work & just collect benefits. whatever… anyway, regarding the extra $25.00, there was a bill which is was removed from, then another one where it’s still included. then i read somewhere that the extra $25.00 will not be included on new claims, but if you were receiving it before your benefits expired you will still get it. i’m so confused, are these 2 bills which they are talking about now include the extra $25.00?

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    understanding 07/18/2010 4:51pm

    From tweets on Twitter:

    Tomorrow at the WH: Pres. Obama makes 1030a statement on the economy. His focus of late has been extension of unemployment benefits.

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    Kerlynne 07/18/2010 5:54pm

    tHE $25 IS NOT on the either bill that is up for vote now. They took it away at this time.
    ____________________________

    I got this from the WA. state unemployment site…

    Unemployment benefits news
    Emergency unemployment compensation (EUC)
    The EUC program expired on June 2, 2010. The U.S. House passed legislation to extend the dates people can apply for and receive EUC benefits, but the bill is currently stalled in the Senate. The Senate is not expected to take the bill up again until July 12, 2010 or later.
    If the bill becomes law people will be able to apply for EUC until November 2010 and receive benefits until May 2011. <<<<<<<<LOOK AT THIS<<<<<<<<<
    This bill only extends the dates claimants may apply for and receive EUC – it does not add more weeks of EUC benefits.

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