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House Dems Revolt, Vote Down Obama's Tax Deal

December 9, 2010 - by Donny Shaw

Dec. 9th, 10:30 pm ET  - as per the sources cited on our micropublishing account, the Senate is adjourned until 9:30 in the morning, with no roll call votes planned. Sen. Reid announced the cloture vote on tax deal will be held 3pm Monday. As of tonight, Cox radio reporter Jamie Dupree has led the way with his summary of the tax deal as it stands.

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Earlier: in a nearly unanimous internal caucus vote this afternoon, House Democrats made it clear that they’re not going along with the tax cut deal that Obama has negotiated with Republicans. CNN:

Defying President Obama, House Democrats voted Thursday not to bring up the tax package that he negotiated with Republicans in its current form.

“This message today is very simple: That in the form that it was negotiated, it is not acceptable to the House Democratic caucus. It’s as simple as that,” said Democratic Congressman Chris Van Hollen.

“We will continue to try and work with the White House and our Republican colleagues to try and make sure we do something right for the economy and right for jobs, and a balanced package as we go forward,” he said.

The vote comes a day after Vice President Biden made clear to House Democrats behind closed doors that the deal would unravel if any changes were made.

“Wow did the [White House] mishandle this,” a senior House Democratic Source told CNN. “Breathtaking. Members have major substantive concerns and they should have gently guided people to the finish line.”

Rep. Peter DeFazio of Oregon said: “They said take it or leave it. We left it.”

The vote was non-binding, but Speaker Nancy Pelosi [D, CA-8] seems to be taking it pretty seriously. “This means we will not bring this [agreement] to the floor as is. It has to be changed,” Pelosi’s spokesman told Politico.

It’s not exactly clear what House Dems want for changes, though several members are saying that the 13-month extension of the unemployment insurance filing deadline is not a good counterweight to the extension of tax cuts for the wealthy since, for the past two years, Congress has repeatedly passed extensions over GOP objection without having to concede anything to them. According to Arthur Delaney at HuffPo, “several Democrats said the least popular part of the White House’s deal is the estate tax proposal, which would tax estates at 35 percent and exempt the first $5 million, a far more generous proposal than Democrats have supported.”

As for adding additional weeks of unemployment insurance (i.e. a fifth tier), Rep. Shelley Berkley [D, NV-1], who is sponsoring stand-alone Tier V legislation, was the only Democrat that voted in favor of the Obama tax deal. So the 99ers’ main advocate in the House isn’t really participating in the fight to change the tax deal.

If the whole deal falls apart, the Democrats risk pushing the Bush tax cuts debate back until the next session of Congress, which will have a Republican-controlled House and a much weaker Democratic majority in the Senate. With the Dems losing 5 seats in the Senate Democrats are losing in the Senate, they probably wouldn’t have the 40 votes they would need to stop a tax cut-only bill from passing. That would put an extension of unemployment benefits at risk since the Republicans wouldn’t have to concede anything to the Democrats to get what they want to get their Bush tax rate extension passed.

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Comments

  • tmc732 12/09/2010 9:18am

    i guess this is good and bad! maybe they will include the 99ers on the next one …if there is a next one.

    to all who judge the unemployed…i search every single day and today there were only 3 new listings! and with nearly 10% unemployed in my state i doubt i stand a chance with these listing but i applied anyway

  • craines 12/09/2010 9:24am

    WE have to keep faxing and emailing about the 99ers, I’m going to fax Rep. Shelley Berkley [D, NV-1] and thank her for here support

    CR

  • tomjw 12/09/2010 9:41am

    it seems like neither of these arrogant parties really care about the unemployed people in this not so great land of ours.all they want is for their own idea of what should be done to be done , regardless of the needs of people.we need to change the way we are governed and the people in congress who are totally out of the loop.

  • dls52174 12/09/2010 10:23am

    I suppose if you have a government job (which was given to you by the people of this country) you don’t need to worry about the unemployed. Normally, I would not be a strong advocate of extended tax cuts, however what we are only barely hearing is that those tax cut extensions will also benefit all workers as well. I have worked for 23 years and have never had such a discouraging outlook for employment. I was laid off in January of 2010. If this extension does not pass, my son and I will be living on the streets within a month. Perhaps I will go pitch a tent on one of the Representatives or Senators who think this is not important.

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    tmc732 12/09/2010 11:27am

    @dis52174….i am in the same situation….but i can tell you one thing if you pitch a tent at one of their houses…the dont care probably just have you arrested for trespassing!!

  • jagjr1999 12/09/2010 12:12pm

    Look up the history of taxation. It was set up so the wealthy pay a higher rate, after they reach a point of over indulgence. In the past during war time their rate was up as high as 91% for the wealthy. Now they have lobbied and now laugh at middle class and poor, cause they pay less if not anything with all the loopholes set up for THEM. Now that they get to keep all their money earned, they no longer have any incentives to take care of the underlings, thus pushing them into poverty and take away their civil liberties. We need to fix our taxation system to make it so the incentive would be to take care of the people and not enslave them.

  • BenjaWiz 12/09/2010 12:53pm

    I’m glad this bill failed dirty rotten Republican’s good for nothing never have enough money as for the unemployed Obama needs to step up and stop being such a wimp and tell congress what he wants or he will veto it.

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  • Iamamerican33 12/09/2010 3:57pm

    Rachel Maddow just mention the 99ers and she ask her guest if it would be a good stimulus for the economy. We are like an elephant in the room being walked around. Are people not thinking that even those, whose benefits get reinstated will still continue to run out every week, and this will be a continuous thing right though 2011, when the economy will still be volatile? Any unemployment insurance we receive gets spent immediately! It helps us buy food, pay another bill, stay in our home, buy our medicine, and survive one more day. All of this while circulating every penny throughout businesses that need us as customers. Thank you Rachel Maddow. Thank you very very much! And to our Senators – not passing the “First Responders 9-11” bill is beyond thoughlessness… it is cruel. And not funding our DEFENSE is just reprehensible and irresponsible. The future of this country is not a game and needs to be taken seriously. I can think of 42 people who need to take a good look in the mirror.

  • jruz 12/09/2010 8:46pm

    If the extension does not pass I will lose my benefits the first week of Jan 2011, I haven’t had not even had one extension yet…I have been praying to God that he touches the hearts of those in congress. I can only imagine those who are worst off then me :(, you will be in my prayer…worst comes to worst I feel a need to somehow some way get to Washington and knock on those doors till someone hears me out! Maybe then they will take a second look at those who are homeless that at one point were making 80-90k!!!!

  • socialcharlotte 12/11/2010 4:35am

    Where are the Tea Party when we need them? Thought they were against deficit spending… apparently not when it means tax breaks for the wealthy

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