U.S. Congress - H.R.1388 GIVE Act
H.R.1388 - GIVE Act
A bill entitled "The Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act, an Act to reauthorize and reform the national service laws." view all titles (14)
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- Short: Serve America Act as enacted.
- Short: Serve America Act as passed senate.
- Popular: The Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act as introduced.
- Short: GIVE Act as passed house.
- Short: Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act as passed house.
- Short: Congressional Commission on Civic Service Act as reported to house.
- Short: GIVE Act as reported to house.
- Short: Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act as reported to house.
- Official: A bill entitled "The Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act, an Act to reauthorize and reform the national service laws." as amended by senate.
- Short: GIVE Act as introduced.
- Official: To reauthorize and reform the national service laws. as introduced.
- Short: Congressional Commission on Civic Service Act as introduced.
- Popular: GIVE Act as introduced.
- Short: Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act as introduced.
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you are incorrect, since the bill of rights of our 13th Admendment says different...
Section 1.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
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What many do not understand is that Authorized is the same as Mandatory in the definition.
Containing or constituting an authorization and/or command.
http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/mandatory.html
The founding fathers would place those who passed this bill in Prison for life, since it is against our 13th Amendment.
No actually the word Mandatory was replaced by the word Authorized, which means the same thing.
Mandatory in the definition.
Containing or constituting an authorization and/or command.
http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/mandatory.html
I appreciate the information. Thank you.
Thank you so much for the links dantheman8282, these were most helpful. I see that the "mandatory service" sentence that seems to be the cause for so much angst is actually part of a description for local school participating in the programs or activities listed in paragraphs 3 and 4 of that section. i.e. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1388&version=pcs&compareto=ih&view=side and not a statement about Federally mandated participation in service programs.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free."
Ronald Reagan
Don't read the bill for what it says now, read it for how it can be expanded by the President in the future.
Indeed I cannot believe these cracker jack prized senators, just vote like it deciding what to shove down their lazy, non-critical thinking, McDonald consuming asses. When do leaders of nations go from being wise men to wiseguys? Its like a idiocy free for all and seems like the ones that should (house reps) be keeping a eye out for potential dangers to our future.
Amen, Brother!
Curly is 100% correct - this is a sugar coated agenda and only the beginning...What WILL happen in the future. I for one will teach my children morals and values, I will teach them to be kind and think of others, I will instill a sense of pride in them of their families, ancestors, and their country. I do not need or want the government taking this away from me, nor do I want them taking my children s' free will, or basic freedoms from them or the generations that follow. Enough is enough. This is garbage, not needed, and way too much control for our government ...you know the one that we control......
Curly is 100% correct
Ronald Reagan never had an original thought. He was an actor who read from a script. Who is holding your copy while you type merrily away?
Madatory service is a feature of most Social Democracies. If the Republicans could offer the U.S. citizens more than foreign aggression, business deregulation, and tax cuts for the upper brackets, they might be able to win an election sometime in the next 20 years. I won't bet on that.
Next election you democratics will get the first boat back to your homeland, since you are not americans.
Can someone PLEASE give me a logical explaination why it should cost the taxpayers $100,000,000 the first year of this bill for volunteers? Does that not suck the wind out of the very notion? I guess the taxpayers are "volunteering" more money to the government. This bill is not some dumb, its plumb dumb.
SEC. 122. NATIONAL SERVICE PROGRAMS ELIGIBLE FOR PROGRAM ASSISTANCE.
‘(a) Required National Service Corps- The recipient of a grant under section 121(a) and each Federal agency operating or supporting a national service program under section 121(b) shall, directly or through grants or subgrants to other entities, carry out or support the following national service corps, as full- or part-time corps, including during the summer months, to address unmet educational, health, veteran, or environmental needs.
You where saying??
I object to Ammendment 49 to this Bill.........sneaky if you will!!!!
Why can't a Bill just say what it is, without all the add-ons that no one seems to pay any attention to???? Obviously, it is because the Bills are so bulky by purpose so no human being could possibly read them and understand them in a lifetime! The Stimulus Bill is an example of passing anything to massage a purpose.....destroy this Country! It is time for impeachment of Congress and the President, for malfiesence in office..............and failure to represent "we the people" in their efforts to solve the economic crisis! Let's face it, failure because of dishonesty is the reward and consequence! No amount of fiat money to shore up these failing institutions will solve a problem created by ghost lending!!!!! Get back to the Gold Standard, and make our money worth something.....what a Legacy that would be for any sitting President or Congress to accomplish!!!
You are aware, of course, that Amendment #49 was in fact the Republican motion to recommit this bill, yes? That is, that it was offered by Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-NC) and was unanimously supported by House Republicans?
Sneaky, indeed!
Foxx? Looks like George Miller to me??
H.AMDT.49 (A012)
Amends: H.R.1388
Sponsor: Rep Miller, George [CA-7] (offered 3/18/2009)
AMENDMENT DESCRIPTION:
The amendments prohibits organizations from attempting to influence legislation; organize or engage in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes; and assist, promote, or deter union organizing.
AMENDMENT PURPOSE:
Amendment to prohibit organizations from attempting to influence legislation; organize or engage in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes; and assist, promote, or deter union organizing.
STATUS:
3/18/2009 4:32pm:
Amendment (A012) offered by Mr. Miller, George. (consideration: CR H3607; text: CR H3607)
3/18/2009 4:32pm:
On agreeing to the Miller, George amendment (A012) Agreed to by voice vote.
Agree with all you have said here! And you're right, Amendment 49 is particularly heinous!!!
Mandatory Service and Mandatory Education: No it isn't in H.R.1388 for all youth, that language has simply been relocated to H.R. 1444.
But Veterans, Unemployed people, and Law-breakers are still on the docket.
Mandatory conscription is still in the plans. Free-Speech also under attach. H.Amdt49 = Speech control for all conscripted. Lots of re-education. Oh, the junior fighting force will be well programmed to believe in all the ideals of Statism. The ideas are to be embedded in every subject of public education. A well planned "mind-stimulus" of Hope and Change - that they will believe in. A lie told often enough becomes truth to the hearer.
"integrate service-learning programs into the science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) curricula at the elementary, secondary, or post-secondary, and post-baccalaureate levels in coordination with practicing or retired STEM professionals;"
Amendment #1 to H.R. 1388 by Congressman Miller (CA), Chairman of the Committee on Education and Labor, and passed by voice vote, includes a requirement for the Congressional Commission overseeing the application of this bill, to determine "whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented..."
This looks frighteningly like the Jugendbund der NSDAP introduced in Germany on 22 Mar 1922, or AKA Grossdeutsche Jugendbewegung (Greater German Youth Movement).
The fact that the government is funding volunteering (in itself is a contradiction) is ludacris. At some point down the line a politician will be able to decide which "volunteer' activities are worthy of payment and which aren't.
For the matter of mandatory service I remember many athletic practices I attended that weren't mandatory, unless I wanted to play. To meet school requirements (or for schools to receive funding) students may be required to participate in this program. There are many ways around words in a bill. Heck sometimes it depends on what your definition of the word is is.
Yea all the MANDATORY SERVICEstatements now appear on H.R. 1444
The initial language did include a segment speaking about mandatory service. However, it has been taking out and is currently and lawfully no more than a benign source of funding for Americorps. This is how it starts...benign bill after benign bill slipping through Congress and becoming law, until finally we're screwed. We need to put a stop to anything else that comes through.
Given what Obama and Rahm have said in the past about their desire for a mobilized youth force "just as strong as the military" I know where this is headed. Stop the benign bills from even going through. Don't let it come down to a terrible end.
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The 13th Amendment
Section I. "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."
Section II. "Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation."
deborah, since when have we followed the Constitution? It's a "living" document, didn't you know? Our dear fascist leader is free to shape our society in his own image. Get ready for the Obama, green-shirt, youth coming to your neighborhood soon.
Here! Here! Obama is the closest thing to Castro we have ever seen. Get out the guns, boys! We got some commies to git. Yeeeeeee-Haw!
Green-shirted youth...lol
International air carriers sell one-way tickets.
I guess I don't see how forcing people to volunteer is volunteering any more. This guy's ideas scare the h_ _ _ out of me. From the online version of Webster's Dictionary-
Main Entry:3volunteer
Function:verb
Date:circa 1755
intransitive verb
: to offer oneself as a volunteer <volunteered to host the meeting> transitive verb : to offer or bestow voluntarily <volunteer one's services>