momobetta- Children can volunteer and learn safety principles without incurring more debt and burden on those few who shoulder heavy tax burdens already- just another creative way to get a handout!!!!

It sounds like they took the fascism out of it. It's not forcing anybody to work, like with the original bill.

they should include all youth in these programs. being 'disadvantaged' or 'advantaged' shouldn't mean anyone is entitled to more or less. young people need to interact with each other in the community without being segregated.

I totally agree, but what can we do to stop this insanity? They aren't paying attention to what we want. I think it is time for another
march on Washington. Something to disrupt them and get them to stop and listen to the voters. This is no longer a government by the people, for the people, and of the people. Have you read "Common Sense." It's a must read.

One more program to blow billions of dollars we do not have. Congress should be focusing on fixing the economy not passing these ridiculous
mult-billion dollar bills we can't afford. But then, when did this congress start listening to us. This is no longer a government by the people, for the people, of the people. It is a government by the government, of the government, for the government. It is time for term limits for everyone. Can't wait for the next election. It should be a blood bath for everyone up for re-election.

It is hard to believe that the Chappaquiddick Kid and drunken bum Kennedy is still around! The sheeple of Massachusetts must be real stupid to keep electing this bum to office.

I like how one of the failed amendments had something to do with Acorn...did anyone else notice that? So ACORN is able to have access to these funds without investigation into their fraud? If they really did nothing wrong, have them open their books and we can move on from it...

They will not get my vote in next election , if we are all still free to vote !

they have no use for the constitution obama thinks it doesn't hold any weight anymore new age thinking N.W.O.

ladies and gentlemen welcome to 'USSA' when u cross the border u get a free green card and when u graduate high school u geta brown shirt and a prius! lololololololol has anyone ever seen V for Vendetta???

try this out, I was talking to friends at a college doing the legal research for the Fed Reps... The submittal included this..." I don't know if the data was classified or not, as I was getting it straight from professors and grad students and some lawyers,,," But the words include things like: 1- Can be punishible with fines or community service, failure to comply could include forfeiture of assets no then but not limited to 3000.00USD, and or possible confinement of 30-90 days which will be paid for by the offender, and may include community, or professional service during the extent of confinement.

they had alot more stuff but this part was the one that scared me. Voluntary, yet can be punishible by fines or assets and jail!!! thats not voluntary, it's like the IRS, they say it's voluntary, but if you don't do it, you have the "option" to face penalty.

Uhhh, so i've seen no questions about who or what this "Corporation" (and yes it's always capitalized, go read the bill)

i.e. "Carrying out such other activities as the Corporation may prohibit"
Subtitle C of title I (42 U.S.C. 12571 et seq.)

go look it's right there and all over the bill

what is this "Corporation", basically what are they referring to in the bill. If any one knows the respond to this comment and if know one knows then... well that's bad

Momobetta; apparently you believe in Nancy Pelosi's definition of "bipartisan". Did you look at the vote. Bipartisan under the current administration means Nancy and Harry are supposed to jam it down the throat of our citizens until they gag.
I see this as the Federal Government getting just as stupid as California's government and running the country into the ground. Let's just declare anarchy and give it all to the illegals and let the productive people pay for it all---if they don't get the courage to leave or fight!
Why aren't Democrats OR Republicans interested in RESPONSIBLE government?

How many government controlled things flourish? Before we give this bill great praise, let's see what they do to GM, the economy, and the health care system. I trust NONE of them. In case you haven't notice our country is far left of center as in progressive.
Each day more of our freedoms diminish.
Take a look at H. J. Res. 5. Read it and ponder that one.

Screw your bill, your snitch citizens and the $6 billion it cost for volunteers?

http://waronyou.com/topics/police-file-restraining-order-against-us-marine-911-truther/

The initial language did include a segment speaking about mandatory service. However, it has been taking out and is currently and lawfully no more than a benign source of funding for Americorps. This is how it starts...benign bill after benign bill slipping through Congress and becoming law, until finally we're screwed. We need to put a stop to anything else that comes through.
Given what Obama and Rahm have said in the past about their desire for a mobilized youth force "just as strong as the military" I know where this is headed. Stop the benign bills from even going through. Don't let it come down to a terrible end.

i am not communist, nor am i particularly pro-communist, but seriously dont just label anything obviously anti-american communist. communism is not the polar opposite of democracy, and labelling anything offensive to yourself like that is simply the hate and dislkie talking.

that being said, i am also against this bill, as we cannot afford the costs to pay for it, and the language is vauge enough to scare me.

1052 to 95 that is a .09 acceptance ratio and it passes anyway. Ut ohhhhhhh time to change the government. Hide your kids as soon as you can. They will train them to come to your door to collect the guns cause they know it will be hard for you to shoot your own kids! The government will be able to develop spies, moles and snitches that would even rat out their parents. Directly out of 1984!!

Work and you must give to someone that don't have! Don't work and the government gives you a check to live!

So that is the conclusion? We who work for a living pay into the largest charity in history, the federal goverment!

What the heck is up with that,huh. I figured that out myself this morn.Must be one of the no-info spots
Every body sees the F.D.I.C. enlargement as well?

Great Points!!!
It's also important to remember that it's government's role to step in and help when business can't. These volunteer programs help to meet that need. Who else is going to fund these organizations other than government?
Taxpayer funding for these programs ensures that you will have trained volunteers helping you when you have nowhere else to turn. That's government's role.

That's a good illustration of bipartisan government finding a happy medium with this bill. It's nothing to be enraged about. It was in there at the beginning, but removed as both sides hashed it out. America is pretty cool that way.

You have got to be kidding me.... I work for an urban fire department that has a community based public education program. This bill allows me to give high school students an opportunity to recieve scholarships for college if they volunteer over the summer. This translates to students partnering with a public agency to teach children safety principles. This creates a community program with very small tax implications on the local level, and encourages higher education and volunteerism.
What a great tool for local government to tap into. We aren't forcing teens to serve our agenda... We're offering an opportunity for them to build a resume, pay for college, and get some real life experience. We get low cost help, have a captive audience for recruiting, and involve the entire community in our education program.
Comparing this opportunity for your community to Hitler programs is ridiculous.

20 million in tax payer dollars to immigrate Hamas refugees to the US

http://www.gopusa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59663

Wow, spoken like a true nationalist! How can you possibly trust the government with your children's safety, be it physical or mental? Remember, this is the same government that dropped tons(literally) of LSD on it's own troops just to see what would happen. They've also given pregnant women extremely harmful doses of nuclear radiation, while their husbands were fighting in Europe and the Pacific. They've directly exposed US Army, and Air Force personnel to nuclear radiation, used orphanages to test TB vaccines, and, at one point, used the most aggressive forced sterilization legislation on earth. (Hitler got the idea from us, and, simply, took it a step further.)

If they ever get 1 right from us, you can bet they will feel encouraged, and pursue even more control. After all, who runs for political office? People who want power!

Serving others is fine and noble, but it should not be forced upon us by the federal government. Also...It should not unconstitutional, and HR1388 is just that.

For the most part, the education system should be teaching our kids to read, write, Mathematics and HISTORY, because to many kids are coming out of school with any real understanding of the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Right's and what the founders went through to give them to us.

The most frighting part of all these bills- as some one asked Is the constitution still in the house? The gang leader taught constitutional law. Now that is scary!
And a good chunk of change goes to a former organization that is being indicted in a couple of states- as we speak, of which the gang leader was CLOSELY- OR INTIMATELY WORKING WITH.

Huh, at least you think I'm getting paid to post here while I think you're just genuinely posting what you've been so ignorantly led to believe. And what conservative principles would those be? The ones that have been thrown out the window by Bush and now Obama, namely being fiscally conservative? If you mean that the -Lack- of conservative principles have nearly destroyed the nation, then yes, I would have to agree with you. All I can say is that it's going to be an interesting next four years. I hope I'll still recognise the country as the USA and not as the USSA.

wow, make a comment and nothing appears. Must be BO is watching

We don't need MORE spending on frivilous bills. Why does it cost 5.7 billion to "volunteer". Volunteer is FREE! If you "volunteer" at a hospital, they don't pay you. If you "volunteer" at a library, they don't PAY you. So who gets this 5.7 billion in TAX PAYERS DOLLARS?

More government indoctrination. I listened as all the libs said that Bush II was breaking the law, becoming a dictator, etc. Boy, if Bush was a dictator, then Obama is already a Hitler. I know, I know, some called Bush Hitler. We're in trouble people. Where and when does the superfluous spending stop?