H.R.1409 - Employee Free Choice Act of 2009

To amend the National Labor Relations Act to establish an efficient system to enable employees to form, join, or assist labor organizations, to provide for mandatory injunctions for unfair labor practices during organizing efforts, and for other purposes. view all titles (2)

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  • Short: Employee Free Choice Act of 2009 as introduced.
  • Official: To amend the National Labor Relations Act to establish an efficient system to enable employees to form, join, or assist labor organizations, to provide for mandatory injunctions for unfair labor practices during organizing efforts, and for other purposes. as introduced.

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  • eschilling 03/31/2009 5:29am
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    This bill will add a huge burden to the good employeers, who fairly compensate their employees, forcing them to spend time and energy educating them on law and the concequences of signing a union document. This is going to smother the businesses and industries with exceptional work environments.

  • deborahg6 03/31/2009 6:30am
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    Good grief! If there ever was a bill that proved the Democrats court the Union and their votes….here it is. Just look at the sponsors. There is absolutley nothing good about this bill.

  • heatherrm 04/02/2009 8:33pm

    The ignorance in these responses is amazing. What happened in your past that made you so scared and angry and close minded. I will give you credit for for one thing those that oppose this have an outstanding ability to quote portions of the act in a way that causes fear and doubt. The act is only 7 pages long. Anyone should be able to read that. I have contacted Republicans and Democrats in support and opposition of this and they have all clarified that this DOES NOT TAKE AWAY THE SECRET BALLOT! If 30% of the employees profess interest in forming a union they can file a petition to the NLRB requesting a secret ballot. The only thing that has changed about the secret ballot is who requests it. If a simple majority of employees wish to profess interest to the NLRB (50%+1) the employees union would be recognized. I would think you would support this as it would save tax payers dollars and the NLRB’s time as the support is already there.

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    flemingtonteaparty 05/02/2009 2:42am
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    Yes, right, those who oppose this are scared, angry and close-minded, because we don’t agree with you! We’re sorry, please forgive us. The fact that this is organized labor’s number one, super-high priority at the moment, should not give us pause to consider. Organized labor is completely altruistic in wanting this legislation, right? Did it ever occur to you that you may be closed-minded, by willing yourself to be blind to the motivation of the groups behind this bill?

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    stokescritt6557 01/03/2010 4:19am

    very well put !

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    DDC 10/25/2009 12:29am
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    heattherrm

    What you don’t understand is the intimidation tactics the union thugs put on the unsuspecting employees. I’ve witnessed it personally. They come to the worksite; they act like friends until you don’t toe the union line; they call their homes; they go to their homes over and over telling them how “we’ve all got to stick together”. I’ve even seen them threaten the Latinos by telling them if they don’t get on board with the union they will call immigration. Even documented workers are always in fear of deportation. It’s disgusting what they do. And for what? Just to pay their salaries and put money in their coffers. They do nothing for the employee; the employer provides everything.

  • heatherrm 04/02/2009 8:33pm

    Also, if an employer is fairly compensating their employees and providing an exceptional work enviornment why would they need to worry about their employees organizing? And as for spending time and energy with law. If these corporations can spend thousands of dollars on anti-union lawyers to fight to bust the organizing drive why can’t they invest that money ensuring their labor?

    Have anyone of you opposing this legislation had the opportunity to attend a union meeting? Have you ever had a conversation with a union organizer? Organizers are there to answer questions, listen to the employees concerns and tell them how the employees can form their union. A Union is the workers and their leaders are elected by secret ballot. And dues are not used and cannot be used for campaign contributions. Members donate to the party of their choose and have the choice to donate to a union’s political arm.

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    justanothervoice 04/08/2009 11:27am
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    If all things worked as they should, a union would in fact represent the “worker”. And if all things worked as they should, an employer should do the same.

    Yet the world is far from the way it should be. The union organizer has one goal, that is to generate membership. the history of union intergrity and and corporate integrity are the same, and that is many are very good, and many are exceptionally self serving.

    But one important question. When voting for union leaders, do you require that 30% of your membership request a secret ballot, or is it your right to cast a secret ballot?

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    BrianVa76 08/17/2009 12:49am

    To answer your last question, we just voted on our union officials. It was a secret ballot, and it was ran similar to our own election polls. You signed in saying you voted, took a ballot, marked your choices without having to put your name on the ballot. Yes there are many self-serving officers out there. But there are officers who commit themselves fully to our rights. Can the same be said about employers? How about politicians? I for one think it is about time to look out for we middle-class workers. If you dont want to join the union, then dont. That is your choice as well.

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    flemingtonteaparty 05/02/2009 2:45am
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    Uh, yes. I once worked for the AP, and was a member of The Newspaper Guild. When I first started there, I was badgered each and every day by at least 2, sometimes more, various employees, telling me that I should join the union. It was never a “free choice”. It was clear to me that that was the way it was, and if I wanted to “get along” in that workplace I had better join, so I did. And all I got for it was dues taken out of my paycheck.
    And you have GOT to be kidding when you say that dues are not used for campaign contributions!

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    dlbysr44 09/07/2009 1:33pm

    Your absolutely right heatherrm. Anyone that doesn’t get this should check out this link.

    http://www.nobusters.org/

    By the way I’m not in a union, niether is anyone in My family. My views come from a educated understanding of the issues.

  • snydes45 04/03/2009 8:39am
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    I see everyone talking about what the employee is concerned with. But if I have a lot of money and I want to open a factory do I really care about them? NO! And I shouldn’t aside from their ability to get me where I want to be. I pay them to provide the labor that I need. That means that I am in control not them. If I get out of hand and offer to low of salaries then my competitor will pay more and get my most talented employees. The fact that unions exist is laziness. People don’t want to earn their keep. If there was such an advantage to being union then private schools wouldn’t be better than public, foreign autos not better than domestic, and so on.

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    drews2 04/03/2009 5:11pm

    To snydes45 – It is because some employers do not care about their employees as anything more than a “commodity” for which to bid, that employees need a collective body with which to speak and to defend their rights. They surely are not going to expect you or your type to do anything but the minimum, while maximizing everything for yourself and your investors.

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  • mitchpamf 04/07/2009 4:45pm
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    More Orwellian “Newspeak.” Secret ballots provide workers with a choice to vote out unions. If you had been successful in passing this abomination against American liberty, your “Employee Free Choice Act” would bring terrorism to any and all who oppose the adoption of unionized heavy-handed tactics.
    Thank God for the responsible legislators that still believe in Freedom and real-Choice in America.

  • callagan 04/08/2009 6:28am
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    Calling this a “Free Choice Act” is something out of George Orwell 1984..this is not FREE CHOICE at all, and if truth in labelling were in effect should be called the “Employee Intimidation by Union Act”

  • jayneedshelp 04/10/2009 2:41pm

    I used to be anti union when I worked in sales. However I’ve worked in a factory for over 3 years now. Employees have no say in a non union factory. You have no protection against bad management. Your raises are based on what management feels ok with. Workers get maybe 3% they get 4.5 with extra time off. I have a family to take care of. So I can’t just quit if I don’t like it. Just remember all Reagan Repubs out there. Its your tax dollars that help people on low income and the Wal mart executives sleep just fine knowing that many of their full time workers can’t afford a nice place to live or that their family qualifies for the wic program. It the middle class that made America great. Its the middle class that keeps America free.

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    justanothervoice 04/15/2009 6:40am
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    Jay, why is it assumed that every job should pay enough for a family to live well? Are you assigned that job by the government or do you have a choice to go and find a job with better pay and conditions?

    I admit it would be simpler for everyone if every job paid the same and no one needed to take responsibility for their own fate.

    But for me, I think I would rather make the choices myself.

  • NanaG 04/25/2009 11:31am
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    I personally think the time for unions is past. We have enough laws on the books where people are paid fairly. Unions are what has bankrupted the car companies. This will just give them more opportunity to pressure the workers into joining. Takes away their right to privacey in their vote.

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    stokescritt6557 01/03/2010 1:14pm

    you dont have the foggest idea of what it takes to go out and work for a real living in this world do you ? try fighting the big ceo’s of this country and maybe you’d see its not so easy after all.for the man or women in this world that gives their heart and soul to these companies and the blood,sweat and tears that they pour out over their low paying jobs everyday while the fat cat ceo’s take their millions and run i pray that someday they will get whats coming to them and the men and women get theirs too.get off your a.. and try working in a true working enviroment !

  • NVGuy36 04/30/2009 1:58pm
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    With the Union voted in for a particular labor group with an employer, the individuals within that group lose their ability to communicate directly with leadership. Everything from that point forward has to be mediated by a Shop Steward.

    Regardless of what this bill changes or not, Unions mean less voice for the individual employee and a larger base from which to fund said organization.

    I’m not sure about anyone else here, but I enjoy being able to speak freely to my boss without having my words filtered through someone else. You lose that privilege when a Union takes over.

    Also, the FLSA in addition to several other Acts/Agencies (OSHA comes to mind) haved addressed many of the issues Unions were created to deal with in the first place. Hence, the validity of the statement “Unions were once beneficial, but their time has now past”.

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    congresswatcher 05/02/2009 11:01am

    NVGuy,

    I’m glad you enjoy the ability to speak freely to your boss. Many people do not enjoy such a luxury. Many people work for employers who don’t talk to them, won’t work with them, and refuse to hear their concerns(or pretend to and never try to work out a solution). Many people work for employers who operate on the edge of the law. With high unemployment, these practices are even easier for employers to get away with.

    OSHA does not address issues that they should be addressing. The Bush administration has cut back staffing of OSHA. Many people who work in factories or shops will tell you that they have not seen an OSHA staff person come around in years, if ever. So there really isn’t validity in the statement that Unions were once beneficial. They are needed now more than ever.

  • Autotech64 04/30/2009 4:58pm

    To all of those who are against the passage of The Employee Free Choice Act, I suggest walking a mile in my shoes. As an Auto Technician at a large dealership I am compensated on a commission basis only, not hourly of salary. In our state employment is considered “at will”. This simply means that an employer can fire an employee at any time for any reason or for no reason. Your only recourse is to prove that you were discriminated against, in a federal court, at your own expense. If you contact the state Labor Relations Board, the first thing that you will be asked is “what union do you belong to?”. If you have no union representation you are calmly told that there is nothing they can do for you. You are totally on your own.

  • Autotech64 04/30/2009 5:12pm

    As our busy shop rakes in money hand over fist at a rate near $100 per billed hour, we are told that vacation pay has been cut to 1 week per year for every technician. Our employer recently fired 3 seasoned technicians only to replace them with 3 laid-off techs who were desperate enough to work for half the pay. Our heath coverage out of pocket costs are over $100 per week for a family and the coverage is poor at best. Our employer contributes $0 to our company 401K plan. We are given 4 paid personal days for which we must give 2 weeks notice to use. Try doing that when your kids are sick. Meanwhile our employer lives in the lap of luxury, his middle management appointee (friends) take home monsterous salarys and do next to nothing.

  • Autotech64 04/30/2009 5:22pm

    A few years ago we technicians started a union drive and 75% of the technicians signed cards at the onset. We then had a 180 day wait for the so-called secret ballot. Our employer got to see the names of the card signers and launched a major campaign of terror against these employees. Needless to say after the cronnies were given raises and the weak-willed cound not stand the harassment by management, 25% pulled out, as did the union. If ‘card check’ had been in place on day one we would have had a union in place and could have gone straight to contract negotiations. We are dedicated workers and get paid only for the work we perform. We deserve the right to negotiate for fair wages, better benefits, a safe work environment and reasonable job security.

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    flemingtonteaparty 05/02/2009 2:49am
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    Well, actually, none of the things you listed are “rights”. You have the right to find a better job if you don’t like the one you have now, since you have the right to determine your own destiny. But no one has a “right” to fair wages, benefits, a safe environment, and job security. These are things you have to earn for yourself.

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    congresswatcher 05/02/2009 10:44am

    Fleminigtonteaparty:

    I hope your statement that no one has a right to a safe environment is opinion and not fact. You ought to do your homework. There are many laws on the books that provide for a safe work environment. But many employers choose to ignore those laws because they know they can get away with it. Your statement, even if opinion, shows your lack of experience and knowledge on this subject. What if your neighbor opens up a garbage dump, pollutes your air and water, and you plea to local authorities for help? If the authorities turn their back on you, your only recourse would be to sell your home, which by then would be worthless. But of course, in your opinion, you do not have the “right” to a safe environment. You’d have to “earn” it! You have the right to determine your destiny!

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    DDC 10/25/2009 12:25am
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    Autotech64:

    “We are dedicated workers and get paid only for the work we perform. We deserve the right to negotiate for fair wages, better benefits, a safe work environment and reasonable job security.”

    “We get paid only for the work we perform.” Sounds right to me. Work = pay

    This sounds like complete BS… “…Launched a major campaign of terror against these employees.” Puh-lease.

  • NVGuy36 05/01/2009 4:48pm
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    In regards to the discrimination statement, if you file with the state EEOC it will not cost you a dime. The state will investigate and determine if any laws were broken. Also, I wonder how much of what you complained about here was ever formerly addressed with leadership directly? Or even HR for that matter?

    Also, you say 75% of the techs there signed cards…what about the other 25% that obviously didn’t want (or know about) the Union? Your majority vote with card check would’ve overridden their say so without even allowing them to cast a vote.

    Also, retaliation during an organization campaign is a violation that should’ve been reported to the NLRB.

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    congresswatcher 05/02/2009 10:52am

    NVGuy,

    You see, this is why people want unions and you really don’t understand. For some employees, turning to “leadership” in their company or HR is a joke! Leadership and HR are in on the mismanagement and abuse of the employees. Report to the NLRB? Are you kidding? The NLRB has been administered by the Bush administration for the past eight years. There is no sympathy there. Hopefully there will be with the new administration.

    Many of you don’t understand how dirty wealthy employers can play. They pay off whomever they need to in order to have control. Yes, these situations really exist.


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