H.R.17 - Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2009
To protect the right to obtain firearms for security, and to use firearms in defense of self, family, or home, and to provide for the enforcement of such right. view all titles (2)
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- Short: Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2009 as introduced.
- Official: To protect the right to obtain firearms for security, and to use firearms in defense of self, family, or home, and to provide for the enforcement of such right. as introduced.
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I hope this one goes through. We have a pistol for defence of our family. If that right is not defined and defended- our chance of protecting ourselves and our children will come to a complete hault.
Although I completely agree with this bill as well as support it, I am not accepting of the fact that we need to clarify our second amendment RIGHT. This is preposterous to have to ask for our GOVERNMENT to allow us to live by the rights that they are supposedly "sworn" to. If this doesn't go through what will anyone here do about it? Will you petition? Will you impeach those who denied this bill? Or will you all sit back and let another part of your lives be controlled by the government? This is our time to change this weak country, it needs to be a country of educated, involved citizens, not a country of irresponsible naives who sit around and play video games while other countries are getting smarter and stronger and more disciplined.
I also support this bill, but I have a hard time understanding why this bill is even needed. Do we really want to start acknowledging that we actually need these measures to justify the second amendment? What is to stop some other greasy politician from amending this bill in the future to change its intent?
I don't know if it is even possible, but Obama and Co. would like to implement International Law norm....Now I watched as he bungled the "support and defend the Constitution" oath of office. There are some that think that the International Court and Laws that the EU tried to get the EU member nations to accept would trump our constitution (by the way, no EU member has yet adopted them). Maybe it's a good time to affirm our rights in yet another bill such as this to keep it on the front burner.
Did obama actually take 'the oath' to defend our Consitution? Was the bumble up really a bumble up or was it to negate protecting the constitution....just one crazy thought...
Treaties cannot supersede the fundamental rights of the Constitution.
“This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.”
I do agree with your comments here fully, and would like to add if I may, that not only does the Second Amendment in our Constitution not only speak very clearly our right to keep and bear arms, but we as a people, under this same Constitution, do also have the right to keep those weapons for our own defense in each states Militia, which we do also have the right to have according to the Rights handed to us so wisely all those years ago by our forefathers. No government, not even our own, not on the federal, state, or even local level, should be empowered in any way, to take any of these rights away from even one single law abiding LEGAL citizen of the United States of America.
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How about posting a link to these polls you speak of, because I strongly disagree with what you presume to be scientific polls. Until you do, what you are posting is nothing more than unsubstantiated rhetoric.
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This bill has nothing to do with political preference. It doesn't matter who won of lost the election, It's about your God given right to protect yourself, your family, and your property. A right we don't need the governments permission to uphold.
And because you can't back up your polling statistics, I'll give you a couple. just take a look at the votes on H.R. 17 & H.R. 45 at the top of the individuial bill page.
How about you post some links to your polls rather than spouting your mouth. Not that i would put much face value on some liberal tainted poll anyways.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/117361/Recent-Shootings-Gun-Control-Support-Fading.aspx
After taking statistics in college, I learned that you can make all statistics say exatly what you want them to. Pre determine the output based on the questions asked and population that is surveyed.
Isn't this what the 2nd Amendment is? We don't need new laws we need to live by the Constitution! I can't believe this. It is sad that we have a new law that we already have.
I agree...we must protect our rights. I am praying this one is approved.
Yeah, I own guns myself, and to believe in our rights to protect ourselves and families, but READ the bills they've attached to this one!!!! HR 47 we DO NOT WANT! But, it's attached to this one, because they knew people like you, would not read the whole thing and be all on board about passing this one, while they slide HR 47 thru as well, right under your blind noses people!!!! Damn, wake up! Yes we need this one, but not the other one attached. By urging the passing of this one, you are also unwittingly helping get the unwanted one passed as well!!!
I agree with this bill, but according to the 2nd amendment this right is God given and SELF EVIDENT, what part of SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED do the demo-commies not understand. Did the Heller Decision not make this plain for all to see. No matter what never surrender, any law passed that is contrary to this or the 2nd amendment is unconstitutional and shall not be obeyed.
Is that so you can shoot the unemployed, homeless and those without insurance when they ask for help.
oh I forgot any minorities too. I belong to NRA but keeping pistols in homes is inviting trouble. Accidental death rates for children where hand guns are in the home are too high. In my view 1 is too many!!!!
Among the natural rights of the colonists are these: First a right to life, secondly to liberty, and thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can.
Samuel Adams
Thomas Jefferson For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well organized and armed militia is their best security.
Have you prepared your "best security." I think no one has, myself included. Maybe thats a problem. Not trying to start something. Just saying the words of the founding fathers are useless unless we implement them. So it is retarded to mention those words or you should act. One or the other.
Why aren't you trying to start something? Are you afraid of your government and what they will do to you? You should be because we are manipulated and herded around by them, they control our minds and our will right now. And it is no ones fault but our own for letting them do so. It is time to start something.
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your the guy afraid of gun owners. I'd say your the coward.
It is not Seditionistic to excerise our frist ammendment right to free speech,and to peaceably assemble, to protest the subversive acts being carried out By the congressional majority, in an attempt to undermine the laws which dictate our political system.(the CONSTITUTION!)
If you love wealth more that liberty, the tranquility of servitude rather than the animating contest of freedom,----go from us in peace. We ask not for your councils or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands that feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you. And may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.
Like so many of you, you fail to understand that changing the fabric of this nation, and denying the constitution based on an election where these changes were not voted on,is SEDITION! Newmeximan,
I challenge you to become better informed about the principles that formed this nation. As Mr. Jefferson once said, "Those who would be both ignorant and free, are wishing for something that never was and never will be." Coward MY ASS!
finally some one has had the fore though to bring what some states all ready acknowlege to the Federal Level. The "Castel Doctrine" is common sense understanding that if my life, the life of my family or another innocent is in immediate peril; I can Kill you weather it's with a 22 handgun, a .50 BMG Sniper Rifle, or a machety and it is gaurenteed under the 1st amendment of the constitution.
currently states like florida already offere freedom from prosecution in justifiable defensive use of dealy force; why the Fed's have not adopted this yet is beyond me.
Molon Label - live free.
"or another innocent"
Where in the bill does it say you can defend someone other than yourself or your family?
Does that mean personal bodygaurds can no longer protect someone unless they are family? Presidential bodygaurds? Celebrity bodygaurds? Will they loose their job or be sentenced in court for hurting someone in self defense for someone outside of themselves or family?