H.R.2454 - American Clean Energy And Security Act of 2009

To create clean energy jobs, achieve energy independence, reduce global warming pollution and transition to a clean energy economy. view all titles (12)

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  • Official: To create clean energy jobs, achieve energy independence, reduce global warming pollution and transition to a clean energy economy. as introduced.
  • Short: American Clean Energy And Security Act of 2009 as introduced.
  • Short: American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 as introduced.
  • Short: Safe Climate Act as introduced.
  • Short: American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 as reported to house.
  • Short: Safe Climate Act as passed house.
  • Short: Safe Climate Act as reported to house.
  • Short: American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 as passed house.
  • Short: Global Change Research and Data Management Act of 2009 as passed house.
  • Short: GREEN Act of 2009 as passed house.
  • Short: Green Resources for Energy Efficient Neighborhoods Act of 2009 as passed house.
  • Short: National Climate Service Act of 2009 as passed house.

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    BillsRights 06/19/2009 8:42am
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    Excellent news for the tax consumer, but not the tax payer!

  • jbaran 05/20/2009 4:57am

    Could someone provide clarification on coal mine methane? In H.R. 2454, coal mine methane is listed as an “other qualifying energy” if it is used to generate electricity on or near the mine mouth. Does the generation need to be utilized at the mine or could it be sold into the marketplace? Is there any further definition of “near”?

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    hardhatgal 06/06/2009 2:20pm
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    please do let us know what you find about coal methane as energy alternative.

  • slw 05/20/2009 7:01am

    If you love higher utility rates and want to see American jobs going overseas then this bill is for you! If not, this bill must be fought with everything you have!!

    According to http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/102937 – “While the impact of cap and trade on our environment will most likely be inconclusive and debatable, the devastation to our economy will not be. The burden on U.S. manufacturers will force many of them to shut down their American operations and relocate to countries with far less stringent environmental regulations. In effect, cap and trade will cause America to export jobs……If this misguided policy is adopted, it will cause the average family to pay more than $3,100 in additional energy costs each year.” $3,100 EACH YEAR. That’s an additional $260/month. I don’t know about some of you but I can’t afford that.

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    mpaone 06/24/2009 4:12pm
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    You are right.. we must fight for this bill with everything we have.

    Don’t you realize the opposition is just creating doomsday estimates and throwing numbers out there created by big coal and big oil industries. I’m done with being at the mercy of the middle east.

  • slw 05/20/2009 7:02am

    Also according to: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/18/AR2009051802647.html- “The real hidden catch of the cap-and-trade system, though, is that it will require consumers to pay twice: first for emission allowances and then for the construction of new low- and zero-carbon power plants.”

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    robert912 06/08/2009 5:32pm

    This bill would cost millions of jobs. I own a small business and I know what I’m talking about. How is paying twice as much for energy at my shop, paying twice as much for raw materials, paying twice as much for shipping,paying twice for groceries, travel, hotels,god, the list is endless! I will reduce the number of emploees immediately if this bill passes.

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    mpaone 06/26/2009 6:05pm
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    Don’t worry; when we stop paying out over a trillion each year in oil and coal subsidies and put them into clean energy, you will pay very little for energy. Eventually you may make money off of energy you generate yourself with your own solar panels, when those become cheap and available, which you can then charge back to the smart electric grid. Trust me, you’re on the up, and the future is bright.

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    knightowl 06/28/2009 9:04am

    How does that kool aid taiste? Good?
    Enjoy it while it lasts.It will help you go to sleap but you may not wake up.

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    zhowland 06/24/2009 7:08am

    I must have missed that section of the Constitution where it states it is the federal government’s responsibility to provide jobs for its citizens.

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    eggmunkee 06/26/2009 12:29pm

    It’s definitely implied by “general welfare”, duh! /sarcasm

    Many people only think the constitution “gives” us rights unless they’ve looked into it. They don’t know it is in fact a document defining very limited powers of government and placing many restrictions on what it can do. Unfortunately before I was born and most people were today, there was much done to thwart those limits.

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    AlphaOmega 06/27/2009 9:39am

    So by the same token you imply that the government has the responsibility to end jobs for its citizens now?

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    zhowland 06/29/2009 7:13am

    If you allow it the ability to provide, it is implicit that it will also have the ability to deny.

    A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.

  • slw 05/20/2009 7:04am

    And finally if you’re from Indiana you need to fight this thing with everything you have because it will destroy our state. Read this report in the Wall Street Journal from Indiana’s Governor Mitch Daniels – http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124234844782222081.html

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    Suenew 05/26/2009 7:56pm

    I agree, but it will destroy every state. Somehow, it seems the citizens are thought of as being ignorant of stupid. We need to fight this cap and trade and so called clean green jobs. It will destroy us.

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    JonathanDS 06/03/2009 12:48pm

    They do believe that we are stupid. It’s called Elitism. They believe themselves superior in every way. I hate this CRAP!!! I’m so tired of power hungry Elitists high-jacking our system!

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    BillsRights 06/19/2009 8:56am

    It makes not a jot of difference what flavor you like, Republican or Democrat. They are, all, lifetime members of the best club in town and are not going to let the rabble (a.k.a. tax payers) into the sanctuary. And we are cows for voting them in time after time because they are a “democrat” or a “republican.” And the sad news is that the voting public is about a 1:5 ratio. So, those who don’t vote, can’t complain.

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    knightowl 06/28/2009 9:13am

    agreed that we should all vote but at the same time fight voter fraud like electronic voting machines;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3hUPP_bdOo

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    eggmunkee 06/26/2009 12:41pm

    We do not have a two-party system. “No matter who we vote in, the government wins.” Even these politicians are mere errand boys and girls for real elitists. Real elitists fund both parties and we bicker over the false choices we are handed to make.

    Flash back to ‘06: Democratic congress elected to end the war. Nothing happened.
    2008 election: Democratic president elected. We’ll surely end the war, right? Still nothing except shifting our wars around.
    Think about how we are being played, election after election.

    What this is really about is increasing government power to regulate more and more. This regulation and taxation will inevitably make the economy worse. Then we’ll need more bailouts, more takeovers, more power for the government and international power structures. We must stop allowing ourselves to be duped.

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    knightowl 06/28/2009 9:09am

    You still follow that “Democrats v Republican” show?!
    Haven’t you ever heared the term; “good cop, bad cop”?

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    zhowland 06/24/2009 7:12am

    European countries have tried this system for years. Their carbon emissions have gone up 5% over the last five years, while the emissions from the US have gone down 1% over the same period (without this system). So, even if you buy into the climate change crap, this system will do nothing to benefit the environment (and in fact will do just the opposite). It will do nothing but create a new market for carbon credits (that is, it will create a bunch of Enron’s … who, interestingly enough, was one of the biggest proponents of cap-and-trade before they fell apart).

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    mpaone 06/26/2009 6:09pm
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    Well, gee.. let’s be better than the Europeans then.

    If we put our energy into making this work, rather than being afraid of the future, we will prosper.

    It’s harder work than just letting things continue as usual. But, if you become a watchdog to make sure the carbon trading happens fairly and beneficially to society, then I think we have a lot to look forward to. I invite you put your shoulder to that wheel.

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    knightowl 06/28/2009 9:22am

    so we should do something that makes no commen sense… “better”?!

    To do the same thing over and again, expecting differnt results, is the very definition of insanity"
    Albert Einstien

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    zhowland 06/29/2009 7:17am

    Apparently you trust your politicians. Have you ever visited a DMV? Looked at a budget from a DOT? Or, I don’t know, maybe seen the results of an government agency that was founded to make us energy self-sufficient (the DoE).

    The definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over and expecting different results. Other countries have already tried this system and are abandoning it because its a failure in every respect. Trying the exact same thing but insisting we will be better is nothing short of delusional.

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    bcampo 06/29/2009 7:29am
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    Have you ever been to a military installation? Every system has their bumps and annoyances, but the U.S. military is quite organized and efficient. I’m not saying we should base our government entirely on the military, don’t get me wrong, but it is worth looking into.

    As for the comment about other countries trying this system and seeing no change, those countries werent consuming as much fossil fuels as the U.S. Of course this isn’t an ideal bill by anymeans, and climate change should not be our only environmental concern, but its progress.


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