H.R.2454 - American Clean Energy And Security Act of 2009

To create clean energy jobs, achieve energy independence, reduce global warming pollution and transition to a clean energy economy. view all titles (12)

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  • Official: To create clean energy jobs, achieve energy independence, reduce global warming pollution and transition to a clean energy economy. as introduced.
  • Short: American Clean Energy And Security Act of 2009 as introduced.
  • Short: American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 as introduced.
  • Short: Safe Climate Act as introduced.
  • Short: American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 as reported to house.
  • Short: Safe Climate Act as passed house.
  • Short: Safe Climate Act as reported to house.
  • Short: American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 as passed house.
  • Short: Global Change Research and Data Management Act of 2009 as passed house.
  • Short: GREEN Act of 2009 as passed house.
  • Short: Green Resources for Energy Efficient Neighborhoods Act of 2009 as passed house.
  • Short: National Climate Service Act of 2009 as passed house.

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  • gretchenmh 07/12/2009 9:26pm

    31,748 scientists are suing Al Gore over the Global Warming/Climate Change hoax. This is nothing more than a huge tax to increase the size and scope of government! Elections have consequences. They very people that these people profess to represent are the very ones who are being sold down the river.

  • AlphaOmega 07/13/2009 1:48am

    “The Planetary Regime might be given responsibility for determining the optimum population for the world and for each region and for arbitrating various countries’ shares within their regional limits. Control of population size might remain the responsibility of each government, but the Regime would have some power to enforce the agreed limits." – John Holdren, US Science Czar

    “If this could be accomplished, security might be provided by an armed international organization, a global analogue of a police force. Many people have recognized this as a goal, but the way to reach it remains obscure in a world where factionalism seems, if anything, to be increasing. The first step necessarily involves partial surrender of sovereignty to an international organization.” – John Holdren, US Science Czar

  • AlphaOmega 07/13/2009 1:49am

    “Another related issue that seems to encourage a pronatalist attitude in many people is the question of the differential reproduction of social or ethnic groups. Many people seem to be possessed by fear that their group may be outbred by other groups. White Americans and South Africans are worried there will be too many blacks, and vice versa. The Jews in Israel are disturbed by the high birth rates of Israeli Arabs, Protestants are worried about Catholics, and lbos about Hausas. Obviously, if everyone tries to outbreed everyone else, the result will be catastrophe for all. This is another case of the “tragedy of the commons,” wherein the “commons” is the planet Earth. Fortunately, it appears that, at least in the DCs, virtually all groups are exercising reproductive restraint." – John Holdren, US Science Czar

  • AlphaOmega 07/13/2009 1:50am

    “Humanity cannot afford to muddle through the rest of the twentieth century; the risks are too great, and the stakes are too high. This may be the last opportunity to choose our own and our descendants’ destiny. Failing to choose or making the wrong choices may lead to catastrophe. But it must never be forgotten that the right choices could lead to a much better world.” – John Holdren, US Science Czar
    Czar –
    1. an emperor or king.
    2. (often initial capital letter) the former emperor of Russia.
    3. an autocratic ruler or leader.
    4. any person exercising great authority or power in a particular field: a czar of industry.

    I can’t find a Czar position listed in the US Constitution!

  • snydes45 07/13/2009 8:43am

    Will someone who supports this bill please reference the portion of the Constitution that gives congress the power to enact this law?

  • rogercharlet 07/13/2009 1:47pm

    snydes45, look in the same portion that gave congress and the President (Bush), the right to go to war with a country that cost us over 4500 of our young people. And guess what a lot more laws and bills are forthcoming. If you can’t stand having a good President and a good Congress you can always move to Iran or Iraq.

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    AlphaOmega 07/14/2009 7:18am

    For once I went to my @ home constitution on the wall and followed your instructions completely. I read Article 1 & 2 over and over being the “portions” that are relevant. The only thing that I could come up with was the War Powers Act of 1973 who Nixon signed into law.
    SEC. 2. (a)
    It is the purpose of this joint resolution to fulfill the intent of the framers of the Constitution of the United States and insure that the collective judgment of both the Congress and the President will apply to the introduction of United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicate by the circumstances, and to the continued use of such forces in hostilities or in such situations…

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    AlphaOmega 07/14/2009 7:18am

    SEC. 2. (b)
    Under article I, section 8, of the Constitution, it is specifically provided that the Congress shall have the power to make all laws necessary and proper for carrying into execution, not only its own powers but also all other powers vested by the Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.
    SEC. 2. ©
    The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to (1) a declaration of war, (2) specific statutory authorization, or (3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.

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    AlphaOmega 07/14/2009 7:19am

    Since the President is the Commander in Chief of something we must think about what that might be tic toc… Since George Washington the Commander in Chief has had the DUTY to command this thing tic toc… The MILITARY. So here we were looking at over 3000 killed, numerous injured and $BILLIONS in damage on 9-11 and you have the oysters to address Cap & Trade in juxtaposition to retaliation for 9-11?
    The fact is that the Cap & Trade Act would collect VAT (value added taxes) and turn them over to the United Nations. This would be the equivalent of the USA turning over its sovereignty to Japan at the end of WW2. That is treason. In looking at the actual VAT it in and of itself is UNCONSTITUTIONAL since only Congress can raise taxes and with limitations that cannot be paid to another government body above the Federal government since according to the Constitution there is NONE!

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    AlphaOmega 07/14/2009 7:19am

    Next we get to the direct violations of the Bill of Rights and so I skip down to the 10th Amendment that reads, “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” This bill violates states rights by imposing regulation at the local level, down to the county level. There is much more but using only a few words to describe a monster of Communism bill is hard!

  • tpfaygoman 07/13/2009 5:39pm

    The only global warming is from the HOT air these members of conress are creating over a topic created by the science comunity to PROFIT from government spending on R&D. There is no critical threat to our lives and our grand childerns lives. Yes we have had a steEeEeEEEP increase in Temp. But the greats power around is not from a higher power no but from the sun its not a punishment for sin or the end of days is extra heat form the big smiley face in the sky. Maybe we are closer maybe its getting more expoled or maybe solar winds are filled with things that we cannot see under anylight creating things that we do not know. When we solve a problem that is not the reason the problem is still there. lets just take it easy LISTEN to was people are saying communication is the KEY to a world understoud. lpesae frovgie m U usndtasnd thta.

  • twittlediddle 07/14/2009 7:28am

    How can the U.S. cripple its industrial base with a bill that will force industry to countries who will not sign on to energy legislation of this nature. There are several ways to decrease GHG’s into the atmosphere without hurting business and consumers with taxes and more layers of bureaucracy. Is our congress this irresponsible and out of touch? Instead of spearheading alternative energy sources that are economically sustainable, they will tax carbon based energy producers who will pass that extra cost to them on to the consumer.

  • clejeune 07/14/2009 2:15pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNXQv190Y4s&feature=channel_page

  • bmwtriton 07/14/2009 6:39pm

    This bill will accomplish NOTHING. China and India will not cut their emissions. Any miniscule reduction in emmissions would be more than offset by these two countries

  • bmwtriton 07/14/2009 6:47pm

    All this bill does is open the way for fraud. It cannot be too hard for a company or individual to manufacture counterfeit permits to either sell or avoid paying the fee to buy a permit.

    Also, this is the biggest scam the government has ever come up with. The government will give the permits to those who pay bribes or give campaign contributions. Bernard Madoff would be impressed with this scam.

  • EGRSBaker 07/14/2009 7:57pm
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    Just take a look at the %5000 increase in earnings by Al Gore subsequent to his “Inconvenient Truth.” Anyone looking to understand climate change and the carbon footprinting need only look at the polar ice core samples in the Scripps Institute. The carbon content is not that much different from what it is/has been over time. It waxes and wanes as it has done throughout time.

    This will do nothing but force business to leave the U.S. at a higher rate than it is already leaving.

  • gedanz 07/17/2009 12:39pm

    This bill will enrichen certain special interests involved in carbon transfers such as GE, Al Gore and a slew of others. And since the Far Eastern countries are not controlling their polution, but hoping the US will be stupid enough to force our energy users to abide by controls even they would not, just destroys our economy and doesn’t even keep our air clean as the prevailing Westerlies will bring China’s smog problem right over the US. Since we don’t get a commensurate benefit from all of this expense it is like burning up money that could be used to more advantage on something useful. Something useful is NOT makeing Al Gore wealthy.

  • Pawl_2 07/18/2009 12:53pm

    Eight Republicans who should voted out. Call’em & Tell’em
    Bono Mack (CA) 202-225-5330
    Castle (DE) 202-225-4165
    Kirk (IL) 202-225-4835
    Lance (NJ) 202-225-5361
    Lobiondo (NJ) 202-225-6572
    McHugh (NY) 202-225-4611
    Reichart (WA) 202-225-7761
    Chris Smith (NJ) 202-225-3765

  • cappsp 07/18/2009 11:18pm
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    Just curious, if Carbon Dioxide is indeed the reason we are heating up, then why isn’t Mars a molten ball of lava? It’s atmosphere is over 95% CO2.

    Also, didn’t George Bush already give the EPA the right to regulate CO2? Why do we need another law that will in effect do the same thing (other than the ability to trade imaginary credits for big $$$)? Hmmmm.

    Like most common-sense people that have commented on this issue, I am against polluting our environment, but am completely against this bill that will increase costs on everything, allow the rich “special interests” behind it to get even richer, but does nothing to correct the actual problem (which I believe doesn’t even exist).

    This is a big money & power grab. We need to stand up and get rid of those that are taking advantage of their positions by voting these bogus bills into law!

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    keihin 07/28/2009 1:50pm

    Mars has very little atmosphere. The atmospheric pressure is about 7 millibars compared to Earth’s 1000 millibars. Even if 100% of Mars’ atmosphere was CO2, there simply isn’t enough of it to exhibit much of a greenhouse effect. And, of course, Mars is millions of miles further away from the Sun and receives much less solar radiation.

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    PNizzle 08/08/2009 11:57pm

    Your statement is correct and seems to further support the fact that Mars, like the Earth, fails to heat up or cool down solely on the concentration of CO2 in its atmosphere, even though Mars has more CO2 ppmv than Earth.

    So it should go without question that even if AGW does exist, only regulating CO2 is not the answer…there are many more factors to consider and this bill does not address them, nor does it present any solutions other than moving money around via taxes and trading credits.

    The simple solution would be to remove the A from AGW, that would solve the problem PDQ…Oh yeah, I believe that’s what H.R.3200 does! Congress is smart ;)

    If you really believe CO2 is the issue & want to do something about it, PLANT A TREE!

  • b58 07/19/2009 4:21am
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    I think this global warming is being used to take more control of our people and our land. All it is a bigger stronger government and less freedom of our country. Instead of WE THE PEOPLE it will be WE THE GOVERNMENT. Just look since Jan. 2009 what the government already controls in 7 months and look what they will have control of at the end of 4 years. They will not stop until all of the people and country is in their full control. Some real change from a free nation to a communist dictatorship. I hope all the liberals is happy with the change.

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    cerebralscrub44 07/21/2009 8:22pm

    Are you in 5th grade? Yes, this bill will cause a "real change from a free nation to a ‘communist dictatorship.’ All us liberals sure is happy. How do you manage to breathe?

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  • AlphaOmega 07/19/2009 6:13am

    This is not regulation of the environment. This is regulation of PEOPLE or more precisely put “POPULATION CONTROL” The man who’s views are most responsible for the “NEW” direction the Government is taking is “Science Czar” John Holdren who said, "Such a comprehensive Planetary Regime could control the development, administration, conservation, and distribution of all natural resources, renewable or nonrenewable.” He was one of the biggest proponents of the “Ice Age Is Coming” back in the 70ies. One of the most damming things he said was, “If this could be accomplished, security might be provided by an armed international organization, a global analogue of a police force. Many people have recognized this as a goal, but the way to reach it remains obscure in a world where factionalism seems, if anything, to be increasing. The first step necessarily involves partial surrender of sovereignty to an international organization.”
    Eugenics as POPULATION CONTROL is the goal!

  • mgamble 07/19/2009 9:21am

    Stupid is, is what stupid does! Senators and Congressmen who vote to increase the deficit will be voted out of Congress. We the people are tired of the out of control spending and the liberal socialist agenda. Tax rates will be higher than every other country except Denmark if these bills pass. Cap and Trade, healthcare reform, take 2nd amendment gun ownership away for We the people will not tolerated.

  • pborton 07/19/2009 3:51pm

    Congress needs to promote industries that put people to work. Higher energy costs (as a result of this bill) will ultimately cut jobs and make the US less competitive in the global market.

  • DMiller2911 07/20/2009 2:08pm

    This is another stupid bill? Higher cost to the end user “the People” who cares! Drive business out of the US, who cares! It sure is not the people who voted for this bill. There is a simple way to get people back to work in the country…repeal NAFTA! Companies are shipping product to Mexico and then bring them into the US at a cheaper cost then directly from the country of mfg. It’s not rocket science!

  • careenw 07/23/2009 7:17am

    There is nothing wrong with recycling but don’t force us to pay for something that occures in nature that we have NO control over…


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