U.S. Congress - H.R.2454 American Clean Energy And Security Act of 2009
H.R.2454 - American Clean Energy And Security Act of 2009
To create clean energy jobs, achieve energy independence, reduce global warming pollution and transition to a clean energy economy. view all titles (12)
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- Official: To create clean energy jobs, achieve energy independence, reduce global warming pollution and transition to a clean energy economy. as introduced.
- Short: American Clean Energy And Security Act of 2009 as introduced.
- Short: American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 as introduced.
- Short: Safe Climate Act as introduced.
- Short: American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 as reported to house.
- Short: Safe Climate Act as passed house.
- Short: Safe Climate Act as reported to house.
- Short: American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 as passed house.
- Short: Global Change Research and Data Management Act of 2009 as passed house.
- Short: GREEN Act of 2009 as passed house.
- Short: Green Resources for Energy Efficient Neighborhoods Act of 2009 as passed house.
- Short: National Climate Service Act of 2009 as passed house.
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Please explain more about the floor tax for gasoline. Is this similar to the program that the UK has in place? There, the “petrol” tax has fueled a massive increased in the use of diesel cars, not necessarily hybrids or electric cars.
Sure. First of all, the reason why the UK and most of Europe use diesel cars is because these countries impose high tariffs on gasoline – gas is very expensive there! Diesel cars are a good alternative to regular gasoline powered cars because they are much, much more fuel efficient making their emissions much less than gasoline cars. Diesel fuel contains more energy per liter than gasoline. Have you ever been to Europe? From my experiences, most people drive small, compact cars that are very fuel efficient, or small motor scooters – you don’t see any cumbersome gas guzzlers on the road. So a transition to more diesel vehicles would also be beneficial, although moving to plug-in hybrid electric vehicles skips that altogether and works very nicely as we transition to a “super grid” that utilizes two-way communication between electricity providers and their customers.
cerebralscrub44- I have to inform you that diesel here in US costs much more to refine than gasoline. That’s why it is more expensive than regular, midgrade and sometimes premium gasoline. I own 10 heavy 18 wheel trucks and average 5 mpg per truck. That’s not efficient. The Fed Gov Clean Air Act has mandated strict pollutant rules for heavy trucks that use diesel in the US. Very expensive for the engine builders to comply. Costs for new trucks have increased by about 15-20% since 2004. In summer 2008 I was paying $4.70 gal for diesel. I agree that cars would be way more efficient. But with the refinery costs so high, people realize it is cheaper to use regular gasoline.
uhhh…thanks for that information, although I fail to see how it’s relevant to anything I’ve said. No one was advocating that diesel is cheaper to use than regular gasoline; I’m just saying that it provides more energy per liter than gasoline does so it allows cars to get better gas mileage. trucks are an entirely different matter, since they way hundreds of pounds more and you need much more energy to move them.
A floor tax on gasoline is a direct method of giving a market signal to big energy companies to invest in clean, more efficient modes of transportation. For example, say oil costs 100 dollars a barrel nowadays. Now, the government mandates that we will not pay less than this for imported oil – if oil drops to 90 dollars a barrel, then we impose a tariff of $10 to bring it back up. That way, regardless of the price of oil, energy companies that want to invest in renewables but haven’t been able to because of the vulnerability of the market to rapid fluctuations in oil prices know for sure that oil will always cost at least this much. They’ll be able to make secure, profitable investments in renewable energy that they know will pay them back in the long term.
Environmentalists predict doomsday global warming scenarios at the hands of carbon dioxide released by mankind. They attempt to classify carbon dioxide as ‘a planetary problem’ but a number a factors are in dispute. In addition, the planet naturally gives off carbon dioxide, like volcanoes, and it is not bad for the Earth. The claim that too much CO2 is a problem can also be said of too little CO2. Our planets coldest years have occurred when less CO2 was present.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/volcanoes-and-global-warming.htm
In the atmosphere yearly, human emissions of CO2 account for 100 times the amount contributed by volcanic eruptions – after these eruptions, the rate of change of CO2 levels actually drops slightly. That CO2 is a pollutant (as observed in studies of ocean acidification) is not the main issue with it. Its harmful amplification of the Earth’s natural greenhouse effect is the reason it is causing accelerated warming. You are exactly right that some of “Our planet’s coldest years have occurred when less CO2 was present.” However, I fail to see how this supports your argument. This simply agrees with the assertion that climate is sensitive to changes in atmospheric CO2 levels.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/co2-higher-in-past.htm
When you say that “The claim that too much CO2 is a problem can also be said of too little CO2,” you’re making an apparent logical fallacy. First of all, you aren’t even denying that too much C02 is a problem. Instead, you’re looking at the reverse and pointing out that too little C02 is also a problem, which is true. But the fact that we dump over 90 million tons of CO2 into the atmosphere per year at present indicates a “too much CO2” scenario. So I’m going to use your own fallacious argument against you. The claim (that you apparently support) that too little C02 is a problem can also be said of too much C02!!! We are going to see catastrophic effects if C02 emissions continue to increase at present levels – that’s just what the science says.
PASS NEW LAW …NO MORE LYING TO THE PEOPLE CALLING IT PLOITICS……YOU PEOPLE ARE NOTHING BUT SCUMMMM…..BANKER BOY MINUIONS…BANKERS STAGEING EVERYTHING…BUILDERBURGS,,,BOHEMMINE GROVE ,,,ALL BEING STAGED…….THE PEOPLE ARE AWAKE TO YOUR BULSHT……WE KNOW YOU GRAVLE TO THE BANK…KEEP PULLING YOUR FALSE FLAG EVENTS…THE LOWER IN THE POLLS THIS PUPPET GET THE MORE THEIR GOING TO STAGE TERROR ATTACKS…….EVERYBODY SEES YOU…!!!!…KEEP IT UP ..!!
http://www.prisonplanet.com/#
A valid and informed opinion. I suppose you are one of those people,that want Cap & trade, Obamacare & more gimme gimmie.More Government in my Life, I don’t Need.! Ther is NO SUCH thing as a FREE LUNCH.
Obama and his radical “environmentalists” worship “mother earth” via “climate change” and “global warming”.All of obama’s activities are centered around his “voodoo economics” of saving the earth. Obama can be thought of as the witch doctor of failure. Everyday he is trying to conjure some spell up about global warming and tying it into the economic disaster he has created. What will the voodoo whitch doctor priest obama do next. American business are afraid to hire or plan for the future because of obama voodoo economics.
Obama is America’s "earthquake disaster
ok good, for a little while there I thought you might actually have a valid or informed opinion about this issue or were relatively sane. this comment confirms that you are either under 10 years old, have never read a book or attended school, or…i dunno, are from the deep south. oh just one thing – 8 years of deregulated markets under Bush caused this economic disaster, not Obama. It had already started when he took office, and he had to take all the flak for trying to improve the economy.
Close Gitmo- NOPE
Pass Healthacare- NOPE- America opposes
Pass- Climate Change-NOPE – Big tax bill
America opposesvotes- C-SPAN- NOPETransparency
Pass a 3.8 Trilion budget- YUP- Owe China and anybody that well lend- monthly interest on loans 1 billion
Stop Terror Attacks- NOPE- Detroit bomber and Ft. Hood (13 dead)
Hire Lobbyists YUP – Over 30 mostly former Goldman Sachs- He lied in the State of the Union
Try KSM in NYC-NOPE
Signed the Stimulus Bill- YUP no work
Reduce un-employment to under 8% with the stimulus bill-NOPE
Liar- YUP
The man and his advisors are a FAILURE- His only job was a community organizer at ACORN and was employed as their attorney-
IN YOUR GUTS YOU KNOW HE IS NUTS……
I’m just going to reply to the stuff that’s relevant to this forum; I wish you’d save your other complaining for someone who cares.
It’s actually been established that much of the public does support regulating greenhouse gas emissions and a climate bill. Check here for a survey of 1001 Americans by the Yale Project on Climate Change and the George Mason University Center for Climate Change Communication.
http://climateprogress.org/2010/02/10/polls-public-support-for-clean-energy-and-global-temperatures/
and here for a Washington Post/ABC news poll:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_121509.html?sid=ST2009121800006
who do you think was caught lying the top universitys….who do you think trains the lyers cap and gowns skull and bones…..all a big plan ….UTUBE REFLECTIONS AND WARNINGS……
more quotes from lyers your done…………
its neither rep or dem their both controlled by the global bank of britian…step out of the box…their both controlled by the bank so it don’t matter who is in power the bank runs the show everybody else puppets….time to clean house …VOTE NO MORE REP OR DEM GET RID OF BOTH PARTIES….
it not right or left their both the same both controlled by the global bank…all bohemmine grove members…..why do you keep attacking people who are telling the truth with your preschool comments…everybody you quote from has been proved to be lyers……utube endgame,,,,utube fall of the republic
I cannot agree with you more, Slugger.
Tired of the administration trying to get more control over us.
Also another it’s another way to get what little money we have.
I am a patriot too!
Sue
http://www.reasontofreedom.com/america_will_strike_april_15_2008.html
http://www.planetxvideo.com/intro.php
every bill on here the people are telling you no and you keep passing sht the people don’t want…..ARE YOU AMERCIANS OR ARE YOU UN BITCH BOYS AND GIRLS….FKIN GET SOME BALLS SUIT BOYS….STOP LINNING YOUR POCKETS STEP UP AND FIGHT THIS TRYANNY THE GLOBAL BANKS ARWE TRYING TO IMPOSE ON US…..EVERYTHING IS BEING STAGED BY THEM……WAKE UP SUIT BOYS….BETTER GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER..
BANKERS MEETING SECERT IN AUSTRIALA…..WAHT THE FK IS ALL THE SECERT BULSHT…YOU PEOPLE BETTER START DOING THE RIGHT THING……..
IPCC is done. Countries are going after them and anybody that helped them for fraud to eco terrorism. Some even want Gore. You dont here about it in the US but get on the net its all over. S.773 wants to stop this
New Zealand has a carbon tax and its wiping out farmers and people are paying higher energy bills.
Every County that has been checking the data is finding out HUMANS are not the cause.
30000+ scientists told Obama not to go to Copenhagen the data doesnt show what their claiming. Him and 60 of his cabinet. Pelosi and 164 others went and it cost 1.1 mil of tax payers money. (“I can’t believe that,” Rep. Waxman said. “I can’t believe it, but I don’t know.” CBSNews) That was after the treaty was leaked that the CO2 tax money was going to BANKS to get their 30% cut of trillions and the third world countries didnt get any. Many countries dropped out right then.
Go Green you dont need to tax it. BUT they cant build a electric car that charges itself?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGjUp1zoov8&feature=PlayList&p=6E23BDC1D20C0969&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=28
Why won’t people wake up from the brainwashing? Carbon is one of the four basic life giving elements on this planet! This is a power grab from the UN (Foreign Elite) for the control of all industry.
ps: The Bill gives a Goldman Sach’s sister company the right to collect money from the private industry (and citizens) in the form of a carbon coupon. That carbon coupon is nothing but a new fiat currency.
Al Gore in behind this bill 100% check out stock ticker GIN (Generation Investment Management) He intends to reap huge profits should this bill pass into law. More bogus claims about global warming. Another way to tax us into submisson……. You are correct jpw carbon is not a pollutant. We need science not politics. The word politic is defined as poly (meaning many) ticks- (blood sucking insects)
“science not politics,” which is the reason why every national academy of science in virtually every developed country has come out in support of the IPCC’s findings. “science not politics,” which is the reason the EPA ruled that CO2 is in fact a pollutant and is a national health hazard. “science not politics,” which is why there is still not one article still supported by its authors which is published in a peer-reviewed, refereed scientific journal that disputes the consensus that global warming is happening and we are the cause.
Carbon dioxide (chemical formula CO2) is a chemical compound composed of two oxygen atoms covalently bonded to a single carbon atom. It is a gas at standard temperature and pressure and exists in Earth’s atmosphere in this state. CO2 is a trace gas being only 0.038% of the atmosphere.
Carbon dioxide is used by plants during photosynthesis to make sugars, which may either be consumed in respiration or used as the raw material to produce other organic compounds needed for plant growth and development. It is produced during respiration by plants, and by all animals, fungi and microorganisms that depend either directly or indirectly on plants for food. It is thus a major component of the carbon cycle.