H.R.2454 - American Clean Energy And Security Act of 2009

To create clean energy jobs, achieve energy independence, reduce global warming pollution and transition to a clean energy economy. view all titles (12)

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  • Official: To create clean energy jobs, achieve energy independence, reduce global warming pollution and transition to a clean energy economy. as introduced.
  • Short: American Clean Energy And Security Act of 2009 as introduced.
  • Short: American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 as introduced.
  • Short: Safe Climate Act as introduced.
  • Short: American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 as reported to house.
  • Short: Safe Climate Act as passed house.
  • Short: Safe Climate Act as reported to house.
  • Short: American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 as passed house.
  • Short: Global Change Research and Data Management Act of 2009 as passed house.
  • Short: GREEN Act of 2009 as passed house.
  • Short: Green Resources for Energy Efficient Neighborhoods Act of 2009 as passed house.
  • Short: National Climate Service Act of 2009 as passed house.

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okwolffcub 02/06/2012 7:06am

Stop launching all that junk up into orbit, and launching ANYTHING that continues to burn off the ozone layer, and that’ll definately be a big start.. Also impliment the use of ozone generators (on an industrial size scale), but you can keep that “clean energy economy”/system of the beast b.s. to a minimum or NOT at all!

HildaSuf 06/15/2011 4:03pm

- newzeal.blogspot-com Mark Ritchie File 2 Minnesota S.O.S.(Secretary of State) Helped Found Socialist Party With “Controversial Minnesota Democratic – Farmer – Ties to President Obama November 10, 2010
“… Labor Party Secretary of State Mark Ritchie was formerly a key member of radical socialist “alternative” political party – a party that helped launch the political career of Barack Obama. In the early 1990s, the now defunct New Party was founded as a left wing adjunct to and eventual replacement for the Democratic Party. While New Party leaders always touted their party as non socialist and analysis of its leadership gives lie to that claim. New Party News Fall 1994 listed over 100 activists -“some of the community leaders, organizers, retirees,, scholars, artists, parents, students, doctors, writers and other activists who are building the NP”

Why does America need to continue to remake the wheel – at taxpayers expense, when people are TaxedEnoughAlready?

HildaSuf 06/15/2011 3:59pm

-washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/Controversial National Labor Relations Board nominee Craig Becker shot down in Senate 02/09/10
- thecommonsensezone | March 24, 2010 | Barack Obama’s spiritual advisor discusses his Marxist and socialist ways… (are you talking about redistribution of wealth….absolutely) – - -

HildaSuf 06/15/2011 3:58pm

“and grants for green jobs, among other things.” – green jobs seems to mean loss of green(money) for federal rescue schemes – tax and spend America into default. – big chunks of stimuli go to federal answers to “crisis-es” that they create – search Van Jones; Dolores Huerta; Bernadine Dorn,; ACORN; SEIU; Soros; EPA mandates; inspector general and RAT board – government corruption could fill several pages.
- canadafreepress-com Is Obama Resurrecting Nazi Fascist Economics? January 23, 2011 “Don’t look now, but Obama again sails into uncharted waters by naming Jefferey Immelt, CEO of General Electric, head of his jobs committee. Imagine, if this was announced by George W, liberals would have screamed like fat kids at diet camp. But the national response is light applause and yawns, proving once again—it’s not what is done, but who does it—that matters to leftists…”

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SnacksMiggin 12/14/2010 5:22pm

How is it that some people think that the US Federal Government has no place in commerce? Not only are we the people the biggest commercial entity in the country, we are also responsible for the interstate system, which America would most certainly not be half the country it is today without it. We are the richest country in the world because we the people, when faced with difficult choices, did the right things. We are called on again to make some tough decisions. Decisions that could have some negative consequences in the short term, but inevitably will lead to long term growth, stability, sustainability and be a blessing to future generations. Once again our Robber Barrens are using every trick possible to confuse and subvert the conversation in an attempt to bend us to their will. I posit that almost everyone on this forum and most Americans in general know that we must change our energy policies. This bill is a start, we still have a long way to go.

Superpower 12/04/2010 5:06am
in reply to MenloPeet Nov 22, 2010 10:09pm

This is a great idea,MenloPeet but unfortunately it makes too much sense, and doesn’t funnel enough of your tax dollars to D.C.

Superpower 12/04/2010 5:04am

The Big Green ponzie scheme is finally dead. Does anyone know anybody with a “green” job? Define “green job”….anyone? …anyone? Big Green was the new way Washington D.C. was going to open up your wallet for you in the name of “Saving the planet”. I’m glad it’s been exposed for the tax scam that it truly is. There is a generations of incompetents coming up, most of the them are 20-something policy makers in TWH or they’re entitlement graduates who can’t read their diplomas. All of these zonks have been brainwashed by old school hippie “professors” to hate America. H.R.2454 steals money from taxpaying Americans.

MenloPeet 11/22/2010 10:09pm

Instead of taxing companies for being dirty, why not give them the incentive to become clean by giving them tax breaks upon completion of say, installation of carbon catching technology?

reyapxat213 10/18/2010 9:48am

Welcome to Surfdom. Another way to use the masses to start a ponzi scheme..But remember the government(s) need to keep the planet safe so we can raise more surfs to tax and take..

Greenlander 08/24/2010 2:58pm
in reply to Napzilla Jul 12, 2010 3:16am

YES!

nzahn1 08/10/2010 6:21pm
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in reply to MrObvious May 19, 2009 7:49am

A survey published in 2009 by Peter Doran and Maggie Zimmerman of Earth and Environmental Sciences, University of Illinois at Chicago of 3146 Earth Scientists found that more than 97% of specialists on the subject (i.e. “respondents who listed climate science as their area of expertise and who also have published more than 50% of their recent peer-reviewed papers on the subject of climate change”) agree that human activity is "a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures.

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Napzilla 07/12/2010 3:16am
in reply to bradtumer Jun 12, 2009 8:07am

If your free market is driven by demand, then why is it that I see 20 different brands of the SAME toothbrush for the same price every time I’m in the grocery store, but if I want to get TO the store, I either have to buy a car that runs on petroleum or rob a bank and buy a bus? And if this market of yours works so well, then why do I need to keep subsidizing it? Between the $4.73 trillion bank bailout, the $35 billion in oil subsidies, another $35 billion in coal subsidies, the $50 billion in nuclear subsidies, and the $75 billion subsidies to the automotive industry, this free market of yours is costing my fellow taxpayers and I a heck of a lot of money for products that we don’t want. Finally, if your market only produces what’s in demand, then why does it need to spend $1 trillion convincing people to “demand” junk they really don’t need? The only “freedom” I see in your market is the money liberated from my wallet flowing freely into the accounts of some obscenely rich CEOs.

MoCroft 07/02/2010 6:32pm
in reply to DianaAmerican May 27, 2009 11:04am

I lived in Siberia for 2 years – the way we controlled the temp in our flat was to open the window. The heater really pumped out the heat – no thermostat or shutoff, just let out the heat if it’s too hot. We usually had all the windows WIDE OPEN even in -20 weather! Get ready to experience the genius of a centrally planned economy…

christinemont 06/29/2010 5:12am

valcanos emitt more co2 than humans and cars. tax them too

sotopheavy 06/18/2010 9:27pm
in reply to nauru Apr 14, 2010 12:01pm

I tend to agree. One suggestion I had is simply don’t allow anybody to ban eco-friendly business practices. Just like cap and trade would artificially lower the cost of alternative energy compared to traditional sources of energy, a ban or restrictions on solar panels for example will artificially increase the cost of solar panels relative to fossil fuels.

There will come a day when solar or wind power is a legitimate financial decision for businesses and homeowners (without artificial incentives) and when that day comes I hope local governments and home owners associations don’t ban solar panels because they think it’s an eyesore.

I would like to see this in the legislation. Allow people to start moving forward on their own without a mandate if they want.

sotopheavy 06/18/2010 9:14pm

I live in a house that is part of a home owners association. One rule of this HOA prohibits the installation of solar panels on the roof of MY HOUSE.

I think that any common sense energy/climate bill should prevent HOAs and local governments from enacting rules restricting installation or use of solar panels on private homes and businesses.

In other words, I don’t want home owners associations making rules against people installing solar panels on their own homes.

Whether you believe the scientific consensus on global warming or not, oil is a finite resource and it is vital to our national security that we take a leading role in exploring renewable sources of energy.

We can’t act like we are serious about renewable energy then turn around and allow entire neighborhoods or local governments to ban or block solar panels on private property because one neighbor thinks it’s an eyesore.

I am not a lawyer, but I would start with California’s Solar Rights Act for guidance in this area.

pramsey 06/07/2010 7:49am

Has anyone in the federal government (politicts or other-wise) ever read “Atlas Shrugged.” It bares an eerie resemblance to what is going on today!

tinahdans 06/04/2010 6:18am

Here’s how this scam will work. Everyone will be assigned “carbon credits” based on whatever the government decides. This of course, is a worldwide scheme. People who actually produce things will not have enough credits to function.
Non-productive entities that have extra “credits” can sell to entities who actually contribute to society. This is where Obama & cohorts come in. Obama was key in setting up the Chicago Climate Exchange as the mechanism for selling these bogus carbon credits.
The way Obama &d his crime syndicate will get rich is simple. When a non-producing entity wants to sell a “credit” they will have to do that on the Chicago Climate Exchange. Along the same lines, when a productive member of society needs a “credit” in order to remain a productive member of society, they will have to purchase this “credit” through the Chicago Climate Exchange. Of course, Obama and Crime Inc. will make commissions from both the seller and the buyer. It’s a beautiful scam!

tinahdans 06/04/2010 6:13am

Equally troubling is the blatant acknowledgement by those involved in this high stakes green rush that power & profit are the only real benefits to be had. The words of Joel Rogers: “I hope you all realized that you could eliminate every power plant in America today and you can stop every car in America. Take out the entire power generation sector and you still would not be anywhere near 80 percent below 1990 levels, and this is with bringing the economy to a complete halt… basically.”
Carbon credits are literally nothing. There is absolutely no value to them, nor do they solve any problem. They create nothing, except great wealth for those who seek to traffic in them. Global warming is a proven hoax.
However, just for fun, lets pretend that global warming is real. How would buying carbon credits from one person, and then selling them to another, make any difference whatsoever? The short answer is, it wouldn’t. You would still have the same amounts of carbon in the air.

tinahdans 06/04/2010 6:07am

The “environmental movement,” once the bastion of peace loving hippies and Earth mothers, is potentially the booming business of the 21st century. Billions of dollars currently change hands each year in the name of the environment and, by all accounts, the surface is only scratched.
To date the missing piece of the puzzle has been a government mandate, something cap-and-trade legislation will remedy. Those already in the game stand to reap a fortune on the backs of average Americans who will see their energy bills “necessarily skyrocket,” as President Obama explained, as businesses pass along the new cost of doing what they do in a “green America.”
It’s interesting to note that without the specter of a government mandate, the Chicago Climate Exchange would hold no value. Likewise Fannie Mae’s patented trading system and Emerald Cities’ prospects for “a new vital economic sector” would be nothing more than fool’s gold.

mouseissue 06/02/2010 10:57am
in reply to Chickorie May 21, 2010 9:18am

Well Chickorie… What claudida66 says will happen if the bill passes as is.

READ THE BILL BEFORE YOU CAST ASPERSIONS!

I’m sick of you liberal “sheeple” (those you follow like sheep to the slaughter). If liberal leaders were guiding folks like you into gas chambers, would you follow anyway because it’s “cool” and PC?

Stop sounding like a Chickie-Poo!
DO YOUR HOMEWORK!!!

mouseissue 06/02/2010 10:49am
in reply to daut30 Jun 26, 2009 2:56pm

This scam was originally called “GLOBAL WARMING” and was touted by many as a man-caused global catastophe. Watch the award winning film by Al Gore, “An Inconvenient Truth” for all the “scary” details. Keep in mind that Al Gore just bought a $9 million dollar beachfront home in Santa Barbara, CA.

If these scammers actually could remove 83% of the planet’s CO2 (their stated goal), all plant life would die with all animal life (including humanity) right afterward!

Hmmm?… So what’s a good scam propagandist to do?
I know!!!… Let’s call it Climate Change! That way no matter what the climate does, our premise can’t be debunked!
After all, isn’t it climate’s primary nature to change? Otherwise, what would you call it?

If you believe the scam, you should watch for a future scam called “Tidal Change”. Everyone will be called to their local beaches with buckets to fight it! You “Climate Change” believer’s look just as ignorant.

Purposely remaining ignorant is called stupidity!

mwgriffin 05/23/2010 4:49pm

Everyone should check out who is support of this bill! A huge range of organizations are in support of this many of which represent large industrial activity and energy production: United Auto Workers, Ford, Exelon, General Electric, Dow Chemical Company, Siemens, Pacific Gas and Electric Company, DuPont and many others
http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_111/20090515/hr2454_support.pdf

mwgriffin 05/23/2010 4:40pm
in reply to Blessed88008 Jun 26, 2009 3:12pm

Agreed.

mwgriffin 05/23/2010 4:35pm
in reply to mpaone Jun 25, 2009 7:15pm

Yeah seriously! No credibility. They should look at the Congressional Budget Office’s analysis of the bill and not some completely bogus “report.”

Chickorie 05/21/2010 9:18am
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in reply to claudida66 May 02, 2010 11:23am

Oh yes! Be afraid! Be very, very afraid!

So, claudida66, how is life in Glennbeckistan?

Ak_Midnightsun 05/15/2010 8:52am
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Cap & Tax is about Raw government POWER. The POWER to Tax, control the economy, our lives & our freedom.

Not only Government POWER to tax. But Government POWER to enter your home to “check for compliance.”

Just take a look at Spain — the Cap-and-Taxers’ “shining” example of an eco-socialist paradise.

There, unemployment is approaching 20% and rising.

And what about all those new “green” jobs Cap and Tax apologists are claiming will be generated?

In Spain, for every new “green” job created (at a taxpayer cost of $800,000, EACH mind you), 2.2 economically-productive jobs are destroyed!

The fact is, passage of Cap and Tax could send our economy nose-diving off a cliff!

claudida66 05/02/2010 11:23am
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in reply to Betonavette Apr 04, 2010 7:34am

Homeowners BEWARE!!! Do NOT be fooled by this bill! If you own an older home, you are going to be socked big time by a huge bill to “upgrade” your home and “get your license.” Free country?? Right, now you’re going to have to “license” your home and pay HUGE to do it! ALL HOMEOWNERS NEED TO READ THIS!!


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