H.R.2454 - American Clean Energy And Security Act of 2009

To create clean energy jobs, achieve energy independence, reduce global warming pollution and transition to a clean energy economy. view all titles (12)

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  • Short: Safe Climate Act as passed house.
  • Short: National Climate Service Act of 2009 as passed house.
  • Short: Green Resources for Energy Efficient Neighborhoods Act of 2009 as passed house.
  • Short: GREEN Act of 2009 as passed house.
  • Short: Global Change Research and Data Management Act of 2009 as passed house.
  • Short: American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 as passed house.
  • Short: Safe Climate Act as reported to house.
  • Short: American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 as reported to house.
  • Short: Safe Climate Act as introduced.
  • Short: American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 as introduced.
  • Short: American Clean Energy And Security Act of 2009 as introduced.
  • Official: To create clean energy jobs, achieve energy independence, reduce global warming pollution and transition to a clean energy economy. as introduced.

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slw May 20, 2009 11:02am
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Also according to: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/18/AR2009051802647.html- "The real hidden catch of the cap-and-trade system, though, is that it will require consumers to pay twice: first for emission allowances and then for the construction of new low- and zero-carbon power plants."

Rowland May 23, 2009 10:19pm
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Obama's Global GDP tax like England and Canada. Same tax, new PMs.

England and Canada already know the mistake and don't want another Obama problem.

jguv Jun 02, 2009 9:21pm
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Right. Just when we're trying to build electric cars to reduce emissions, now we're going to hike the cost of electricity until only the rich can drive. Does anyone up there (in DC) know what it's like to try to work for a living? I'm TAPPED OUT!

texascav May 29, 2009 5:43pm
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in reply to DianaAmerican May 27, 2009 3:04pm

Not just Russia. When I was in Italy in 1968 and Germany in 1969 it was controlled. You had to wear a sweater or jacket in your home to keep warm in the winter cause it was regulated and just barley enough to break the chill.

Suenew May 26, 2009 11:56pm
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in reply to slw May 20, 2009 11:04am

I agree, but it will destroy every state. Somehow, it seems the citizens are thought of as being ignorant of stupid. We need to fight this cap and trade and so called clean green jobs. It will destroy us.

robert912 Jun 08, 2009 9:26pm
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Global warming is a hoax and has evolved into a tax scheme where the government will use utilities as an extention of the IRS. This has absolutely nothing to do with the environment but has everything to do with control and manipulation of an uninformed naive population. This is a flat-out lie. This government has debased the currency and run up unsustainable debts so it is now looking for any way to confiscate individuals property and money. It is no more complicated than that.

MercilessPit Aug 19, 2009 3:32pm
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ANY kind of legislation to control health care and private insurance is a move toward absolute control of the people. TORT Reform NOW! This lousy administration has taken over the banks, AIG, auto companies and now they're trying to get our health and energy (cost of) into their power-hungry hands. They wont stop until they have snatched every liberty away from us. VOTE OUT THIS CONGRESS IN 2010!

mpaone Jun 29, 2009 11:19pm
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in reply to Arizonian Jun 28, 2009 6:35pm

My bad. Change "dinosaur" to "prehistoric plants and algae", and my statement still stands. Either way, it's no longer a good idea.

snydes45 May 23, 2009 3:14pm
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"and grants for green jobs"
I want to hear the politicians tout the tens of thousands of jobs "created" in the green sector and how that will offset the half million or more jobs lost in the rest of the market.
Until someone can put a dollar value on the global warming effect of CO2 or other emissions I don't see any need to cripple our economy.

texascav May 29, 2009 5:40pm
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Oh yes, just what we need another tax. This is one of the dumbest yet. What is our government trying to do, DESTROY us. This will increase the cost of everything we buy, use, and consume. And it won't change global warming at all. What were all the predictions on the first Earth Day? Google it.... not one came true. If those predictions had come true we wouldn't be here today. Come on people, wake up write your Congresmen and Senators, let them know that this is a bunch of bull. Oh yes, we need to tax cattle also ( methane gas).

robert912 Jun 08, 2009 9:32pm
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in reply to hardhatgal Jun 06, 2009 6:45pm

This bill would cost millions of jobs. I own a small business and I know what I'm talking about. How is paying twice as much for energy at my shop, paying twice as much for raw materials, paying twice as much for shipping,paying twice for groceries, travel, hotels,god, the list is endless! I will reduce the number of emploees immediately if this bill passes.

MrObvious May 19, 2009 11:49am
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CO2 levels have no measurable effect on the Earth's temperature.
Updates to measurements and models now show a .7 degree rise over the last 100 years. That is less than the average over the last 300 years. CO2 levels are at or near some of their highest recorded levels over that same time span. If the amount of CO2 had anything to do with warming, we would be in the middle of a global heat wave by now. We are not. Some reliable predictions have us cooling over the course of the next 50 years or so. If the science were settled, then there wouldn't be so much decent from PHDs around the world.

train Aug 11, 2009 10:06pm
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This is a joke. Global warming is a scam. This is just another way for govt. to take more of our freedoms. Don't tell me a can't drive my SUV, or run my house thermostat at 74 degrees, or eat what I want. The libs are just trying to find new and fancy ways to tax more. "Please don't tax me bro."

JonathanDS Jun 03, 2009 4:48pm
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in reply to Suenew May 26, 2009 11:56pm

They do believe that we are stupid. It's called Elitism. They believe themselves superior in every way. I hate this CRAP!!! I'm so tired of power hungry Elitists high-jacking our system!

DianaAmerican May 27, 2009 2:50pm
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Government jobs are paid for by taxpayers. Once a government job is created we pay the wages, medical & vacations of that person in that job! Well for twenty years until they retire.
Then, we pay their retirement and someone to replace the person who retired.
After another twenty years, we pay 2 people retirement pay and yet another person to do the job that the first 2 retired from.
Don't ya get it, a gov job only creates more $$ needed to run government!!

slw May 20, 2009 11:01am
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If you love higher utility rates and want to see American jobs going overseas then this bill is for you! If not, this bill must be fought with everything you have!!

According to http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/102937 - "While the impact of cap and trade on our environment will most likely be inconclusive and debatable, the devastation to our economy will not be. The burden on U.S. manufacturers will force many of them to shut down their American operations and relocate to countries with far less stringent environmental regulations. In effect, cap and trade will cause America to export jobs......If this misguided policy is adopted, it will cause the average family to pay more than $3,100 in additional energy costs each year." $3,100 EACH YEAR. That's an additional $260/month. I don't know about some of you but I can't afford that.

heylucy Jun 25, 2009 6:15pm
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in reply to kfrankel Jun 23, 2009 3:21pm

There's this thing called the internet, where you can read all sorts of interesting studies, facts and theories about so-called global warming/climate change. I would go to google.com and try doing a little research yourself. There are plenty of scientists who de-cry the THEORY of man-made global warming. I learned about scientific theory in my seventh-grade science class, and if I remember correctly, a theory is not the same as a fact.

I believe NASA has also reported a drop in tempurature over the last decade. There are also reports that the polar ice caps, while receding in some areas, have actually increased greatly in other areas. Also, there appears to be significant correllation between sun-spot activity and the earth's core tempurature.

Man-made global warming is nothing more than a theory which has become the new religion, and the televangelists (i.e. Al Gore, Nancy Pelosi) are making a whole lot of money with their fire-and-brimstone preaching.

DianaAmerican May 27, 2009 2:43pm
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Where are the American people???? Everyone should be contacting their senators and state representatives every day opposing all this nonsense, the government is putting everyone out of work, well except for gov employees, which we pay for.
This bill along with many others will only put more people out of work. It is bull crap, all of it!!!!!

People better get together, unite against all this crap before it is too late? Maybe we all have busy lives, but are we going to stand by and let them continue taking over all of our Freedom and Liberty???

The things gov is doing make me ill, literally! Is their anyone who actually believes in the US Constituion????????????????

ctrentham Jun 28, 2009 6:22pm
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in reply to daut30 Jun 26, 2009 6:56pm

How will we know when we have "defeated" climate change and can stop taxing and regulating? It will never happen! Just like the "War on Terror". How would you ever know when you have defeated "TERROR". They are both undefinable nonsense used as a tool to tax and regulate the American people. Collectivism is what it is. "We need to all sacrifice for the good of the whole." The problem is everybody will sacrifice but no one will ever benefit except the upper echelon who is orchestrating the whole thing.

I'm all for common sense solutions. Why don't we just plant more trees? They devour carbon dioxide and emit oxygen. I'm all for regulations that stop pollution, but not a tax that is a "pollution fee" that energy companies pay the government and simply pass on the charge to each and every one of us.

Acct59 Jun 11, 2009 4:19pm
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I also heard they are going to charge dairy farmers $175.00 per Cow because they pass gas "methane gas? from eating grass and it hurts the environment..there goes the price on milk and dairy products..the insanity going on in this administration is beyond belief..we are headed toward a wall going 150 miles per hour ...will we survive??? I doubt it...they do not want to rebuild our nation ..they want to remake into something we do not recognize and do not want.....WE WANT AMERICA BACK

slw May 20, 2009 11:04am
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And finally if you're from Indiana you need to fight this thing with everything you have because it will destroy our state. Read this report in the Wall Street Journal from Indiana's Governor Mitch Daniels - http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124234844782222081.html

bradtumer Jun 12, 2009 12:07pm
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in reply to hardhatgal Jun 06, 2009 4:46pm

Creating jobs is pointless unless those jobs create goods and services demanded by consumers in a free market. Otherwise you're just creating busy work that's just a drain on the economy.

zhowland Jun 24, 2009 11:00am
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in reply to kfrankel Jun 16, 2009 3:35pm

"mostly caused by humans"

Yep, which is why the warmest period of time we have on record was in the 1100's. Look what all the combustion engines and carbon-producing machines back then ... oh, wait, there were none.

Try actually reading some credible studies instead of what the news reports on before you tell someone else to do more reading.

quanez May 30, 2009 9:34am
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Cut Spending!!!! We don't need more taxes and bigger government. Wake up America...

Janihall Jun 01, 2009 8:50pm
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This bill would not only add many dollars to our utility bills - not just for the rich, but for everyone, but it would destroy jobs in this country. Why would anyone pay cap and trade taxes here when they could go to China and not have those added taxes. Secondly, the science that is being used for these "global warming" stats has been proven to be false. Get a good "Discussion" with varied scientests - not just those that agree with Al Gore and prove with accurate data that the globe is actually warming. Plant a few trees - that will take care of the CO2!

ConservativeFLrunner Jun 25, 2009 12:45pm
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This bill is criminal! Call congress, let's work to stop it while we can! Another rush job! Slow down, get the facts! Stop wasting my money!
All support = get voted out in 2010 or 2012!

jschlatt May 19, 2009 8:16am
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This bill will kill our already crippled economy, tax the consumer TO DEATH, and it will do nothing to help the environment. If the democrats pass this thing, they are going to get their butts handed to them in 2010.

MinnesotaMama May 28, 2009 1:11pm
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Cap and Trade is a tax, and it's a great big one. Even democrat Chairman Emeritus of Energy and Commerce Committee John Dingell says this. Everyone in Congress knows this is a tax on the American people.

Imposing such a tax during a recession is economic suicide.

DianaAmerican May 27, 2009 2:58pm
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A privately owned company, small business; they hire people to work and they pay their wages, not the taxpayers.
Government regulations cause small business to go out of business, thus costing Americans jobs that are not paid by taxpayers.

It is common sense to have privately owned small businesses. Government regulations and Union regulations have destroyed many thousands of small businesses to create huge conglomerate businesses that they can control, and they doing more of it all the time.
DRILL HERE< DRILL NOW< Small business< Let our country, let American use the Natural resourses we have to create jobs, to strengthen our Country.

DianaAmerican May 27, 2009 3:04pm
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The Grid to control your use of energy in your own home?????

Have you ever been to Russia? Their government controls their heat, it gets turned on the same day every year, whether it gets cold earlier or stays hot later is not govs concern.
It also gets turned off same day every year, so if it gets warm earlier or stays cold later is also not govs concern.

Example: lets say it's still 35 degrees outside, but the day comes when it's time for heat to be shut off......... too too bad, just freeze then.



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