As a Democrat I’ll agree to this compromise with you if we don’t have to pay for your wars or military spending… but you can’t send your kids to our schools, use our healthcare system, or breath our cleaner air.

So the agreement is ya’ll Republicans will pay for and get the benefits of the Iraq and Afghan wars, but you have to pay for your own education, healthcare, and oil industry subsidies.

Us Dems will pay for and benefit from education, healthcare, and the environment and not have to pay for the wars or the Pentagon… we’ll chance it.

I wonder who will have the lower bottom line. Its me, everything you pay for publicly now you’d have to pay for privately otherwise… don’t worry, you guys have those awesome wars.

correction to above post: we HAVE been failing to compete in the auto industry

Ok guys, the government is not trying to take away your freedom… I don’t know how effective the cap and trade system will be but something does have to be done. Now, as far as consumers having to pay more money, any costs will be minimal. The bill actually does include some stuff to protect you from that. Some revenue from the permit auctions would go to low/middle income households and also to households to help them make their homes more energy efficient. Having an energy efficient home actually saves money. Plus, help will be given to any worker who loses his/her job because of changes made.
Whatever you think about climate change, the rest of the modern world recognizes that clean energy and sustainable practices are the direction industry is taking. This bill is trying to ensure that we will remain an economic leader in the future. We already haven’t been failing to compete in the auto industry for a long time.

California, our future is in your hands, vote this guy out before he does anymore damage. He also is co-sponsoring HR3200 which will devastate America. PLEASE, please, vote this guy out. Thank you in advance.

write call fax email your reps constantly! Join a group to help keep you fired up if you need to or to get info and ideas from others.
I like www.resistnet.com or americans for prosperity or the 912 bunch.
Join up. make your voices be heard!
The staffers in washington and locally say we are making noise they are hearing!

this bill is a solution looking for a problem…and there is none!

“When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”

Thomas Jefferson

Short sighted whiners. We Americans are spoiled and lazy. We use more energy than any other country. It’s time we start paying the piper. I see support for energy sources that WILL run out in if not our lifetime then our children’s and grandchildren’s lifetimes. We may not see the returns immediately which I guess all of you expect. Change for the better is rarely fast and easy but that is all we Americans expect anymore. I agree we are rushing this bill through. It should be carefully studied but the right motivation is there. Where the HUGE mistake was made was the bailing out of the companies that were too big to fail. They failed anyway and now my great grandchildren will be paying the bill. Bad business needs to fail. Let capitalism work!

What state are you from? I don’t remember the sight I went to but I printed the list of how everyone voted. Today I will list the Republicans who voted yes and the one who abstained from voting. Those nine votes would have beat the Democrats by ONE VOTE.

There were nine Republicans who sold us down the river on this bill. If they had not sold us out, the bill would not have passed. Eight jumped ship and the other had to go watch his daughter in a beauty pagent which was much more important then helping to stop the largest tax increase in American history. To abstain from voting is like a yes vote. Just wanted to say thanks to those Rebublicans who bailed and jumped sides, what is the pay off for your state for vote with the Democrats?

UPDATE: THEY GONNA TRY TO PASS IT IN THE SENATE THIS MONDAY.

And the bills allow HOME INSPECTIONS. And if you don’t agree, you’ll face fines.
http://www.examiner.com/x-14613-Kansas-City-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m7d1-Clean-Energy-and-Security-Act-brings-auditors-into-your-home

BTW, I voted “NAY” on this when it was at 229 NAYS at 1:40pm PST. I voted then, and looked 2 1/2 hours later & it is STILL 229 without even counting my vote. Are we now being censored? Or is it just broken?

I can’t believe that congress would vote – and people CELEBRATE the death to Amerika. Why on Earth would someone in their right mind VOTE on a bill that just added 600 pages to it that they were not even able to read? Why does this not show a red flag to 219 people? Even if you liked the ORIGINAL bill, which was terrible in its own right, why would you agree blindly to 600 more pages of a bill? Vote first, then read?

Is this the new Freedom?

I’ll be discussing this on my radio show Tuesday. If anyone can tell me what was in those 600 pages that were so important they could not even be read, please call me on the show! I really want this info.

My radio show is at: www.blogtalkradio.com/proofnegative & I am on Tuesdays 7pm-9pm.

Thank you guys!

I thought this was a Democracy, rather that a Dictatorship be cause there was NO Republican Sponsor to the Bill , Just TWO Democrat’s or should I say Dictator wana-be’s.

Why are these creatures so adamant about hastening the death of America; and the Global Economic Collapse? AND—why was this bill, formerly named 2454 Changed, then rushed thru, with an additional 1200 pages that no one read—AND, why did they need to do this on a Friday nite, when the news cycle was ended for the week—AND, why, when this bill is wildly unpopular—as with the Banker Bailout bill, passed—AND, why do these people believe that they will get away with this, when the American populace is Already at the boiling point? Never mind the fact that these guys are going to be voted out of office…how about Busted Kneecaps; Overturned Garbage cans; Smashed Windows, and kidnapped family members? Not that I, Personally would do any of those things, nor endorse them; I’m just thinking about possibilities…
AND—why in hell did 2 Republicans, and Alcee Hastings—the Impeached Federal Judge—abstain from this vote?

Cap and TRADE is very wrong-definite sign of the “CHANGE” that O’Bama was referring to and it is time to stop him right now-he could be the first President with a total of 3 years “LAME DUCK” sessions if played right!!!

We the People of the United States are not being listen to by the nuts in congress. The sad part of all the this is that the Average American does not have the CASH/RESOURSES to run for Congress. God help us all.

Great 30 minutes speech on how outrageous the bill is by Boehner.

We need the whole thing on youtube before the senate gets the bill.

Congress is bought and paid for…. voting for this crap even if nobody red the bill = treason.

Make sure you let those who voted in favor of the bill that they will not be getting reelected. This is our mission to throw these bums out. If they don’t want to listen to the will of the people, the hell with them.

Wrong, we have less than three percent of the world supply of oil. Any effort to cash in on this would take near a decade to build and operate to a level making a difference. There is a decent amount of natural gas, however that market is prone to fluctuation and manipulation.

Even N.A.S.A. says humans have negligible effect on the ’Earth’s Climate. This is Communism, pure and simple just change the ‘Proletariat’ with ‘Earth’ comrade; However, Communism still fails whichever way you slice it. Lets try something new, instead of rehashing old failed ideas from the past. By ‘new’ I mean something like the Fair Tax Act {H.R. 25 or S.RES. 296}; And, actually protecting doctors from most of the litigation, so their insurance premiums drop and they can ‘charge’ less for health care.

I would like the list of AYE / ABSTAIN voting Republicans and like you would like to thank DEMS that voted NAY. Post them when you get them. I’m trying to find them now.

Just like the stimulus bill, this oversized bill, full of gotchas, has been rammed down the throats of Congress by Pelosi and company who have absolutely no regard for the financial damage it will do to this economy, particularly in these troubled times. This is an empt bill, fattening up the select few at the expense of all taxpayers. I am ashamed of the ones that supporeted this bill. Many of them voted in a fashion to increase their politcal capital rather than their conscience. The Senate, hopefully, will kill this beast of burden.

What protest? I would like to get in on this…email me @ amandacaudill@gmail.com

wants to first off thank John Boehner for the great opposition speach of HR 2454, secondly I’d like to thank Democrats FOR F’ING UP MY FUTURE! Cap and trade will affect you, the consumer, shortly. Hello skyrocketed taxes on electricity, gasoline, utilities, food production, manufacturing, good bye affordable future. The aforementioned industries will be taxed hard core, causing prices on their products to inflate…For those of you who think cap and trade was a good idea, you just hurt the average American. Gasoline is going to skyrocket, its not like we can afford it as is…propane will go up, people will be COLD this winter, electricity will inflate, people will be cutting costs and barely surviving this. You should be ashamed you voted for this. You just caused the price of living to double without the pay raise.

Bono Mack (CA) 202-225-5330
Castle (DE) 202-225-4165
Kirk (IL) 202-225-4835
Lance (NJ) 202-225-5361
Lobiondo (NJ) 202-225-6572
McHugh (NY) 202-225-4611
Reichart (WA) 202-225-7761
Chris Smith (NJ) 202-225-3765

HERE

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http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll477.xml

I have been reading the document and there is mention of Title V permits yet there is no Title V? is this legal or a valid document to vote on?

As far as the calls go. I never got through to the Capital Hill number. It was always busy. I ended up going to each House members web-site (via this web-site) where I had some luck with the DC office numbers, but mostly with thier local offices. A lot of thier sites that you were directed to via “contact us” were down this morning. Might have crashed under volume.
To hear that our calls impacted thier decision, makes it all worth it!
Also Thanks to Mark Levin for the list!

Got my warmings and coolings mixed up. The bill is not about global warming. The planet has been cooling for the past 10 years.