U.S. Congress - H.R.3200 America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009
H.R.3200 - America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009
America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 view all titles (5)
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- Official: America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 as introduced.
- Official: To provide affordable, quality health care for all Americans and reduce the growth in health care spending, and for other purposes. as introduced.
- Popular: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 as introduced.
- Short: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 as introduced.
- Short: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 as reported to house.
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Congress not only has a Rolls Royce medical plan, they get it for life.
We have formed our own group (about 30 people) Be Informed America. We are calling our Rep’s and Senators offices in our state and their Washington offices too, sending emails, post cards, talking to anyone who will listen from the grocery store to the church parking lot. The way they do things is ORGANIZE. So we are taking a page out of their play book. And if you want a look at the playbook Google Saul Alinsky’s “Rules For Radicals”.
This bill will only lead to more out of control government spending, bankrupt hospitals, and increased unemployment. Medicaid and Medicare have been cutting payouts for years while their recipients continue to clog the ERs. I am a emergency room nurse, and I watch Medicaid recipients come in on a daily basis wanting their children checked for 99 degree fevers (not a fever) and runny noses (also not an emergency.)I wrote the Medicaid office regarding the blatant abuse of the system. I received a letter back telling me to police the system myself if I wanted something done. Just another government program with no accountability in spending, as will be this program if it is passed. As for “We the people,” you must be living off of government assistance or be an illegal alien as these are the only people who are going to benefit. For the rest of us, you better guard your wallet, because the amount of money we have been paying to support non workers in America is about to go up.
Look at it this way: the people who come to your ER and waste your valuable time and space are doing so because that’s the only place they can get care, even if it comes out of someone else’s dime. Do you not agree that it’s much cheaper to go to a GP’s office than an ER? Do you not agree that if these folks could see a GP that they would do just that instead of going to an ER? Does it not follow that since they can’t pay anyway, they won’t pay, and that $200+ in the ER someone’s gonna have to pay anyway is cheaper for society than $70 at a GP?
Medicaid patients who have a GP still go to the ER if they can’t get an appointment to same day regardless if a runny nose can wait another day to see the GP
Do you have statistics to back this up? Given how long one can wait in an ER, it saves more time to wait the extra day to see a GP.
You hae to look at this in more depth. When the lines get long- such as Massachusetts 49.6 day wait for a primary care visit, MORE PEOPLE WILL GO TO ER, rather than wait. Also, those who don’t will incur much higher costs when many of their illnesses have had complications before they see a doctor at all. I have many years of clinical and managed care experience, and I guarantee you it will happen. You can’t buy the simplistic garbage being spouted about costs. Reality is reality and the administration’s garbage is not reality.
I hope all people on Medicaid understand that the coverage they have now, will also only get worse as a result of this bill.
I am an uninsured person, I don’t have medicaid and I don’t go to the emergency room unless I have an emergency. Some of us aren’t clogging up your ER. Last time I went to the hospital I had an abscessed tooth on a Sunday, half of my face was swollen to about three times its size and the pain was unbearable. Mind you it swelled up that large in a matter of three hours. I already had a dentist appointment booked for 5 days down the road. I am still paying for that emergency room visit. I agree that this plan is not great , however I will not be able to afford anything more.
My point exactly, if you had health care, maybe you would have been seeing a dentist regularly and that tooth would have never gotten to the abscessed stage.
thank you for not clogging our er system. however, please know that you would have to pay for your public option plan ~ just as you could now go buy an individual plan for yourself now.
this bill is providing a vessel for government control over your care and data on your personal health while collecting a profit (despite alleged budget reports)…when you can simply go buy an individual plan without its existence. you probably don’t have medicaid because you make too much money. if you make too much money, you could buy yourself a plan!
This is the kind of abuse that needs to be addressed. I know there are many areas in all healthcare programs that we can find savings. Medicaid is funded by Federal funds but run by individual States, so it doesn’t surprise me that you received that type of response. I avoid emergency rooms for the reasons you just mentioned. This bill must include this type of reform.
The Congressional Budget Office says an expansion of Medicare will cost upwards of 560 billion dollars and is the only way to keep costs down for the government. The Baucus plan in the Senate finance Committee is already more costly than all of the other bills and the CBO says it will not increase competition or effectively provide all people with the same universal coverage and this is the archetype for the public option, a completely federally funded insurance plan for anyone who wants it.
Also, apparently a lot of people don’t know but most of the costs of all of the bills are going to shift from the federal government to the state governments over time. Frankly I don’t see why I, in California, have to pay for someone’s operation in New York or why I have to pay for another person’s health insurance at all. I’m willing to allow such a minuscule amount of my tax dollars go to emergency care but every doctor I know is skeptical of preventive care.
All this “rushing” with this administration… how about taking some time to consider what is being done with something so big as:
1 – An $800 billion stimulus bill
2 – Cap and Trade
3 – Government run health care
In all seriousness, because the government is sooooo efficient at running other public welfare programs (see Social Security and Medicare) why would we ever want them stepping in to run health care for everyone. As I’ve posted elsewhere here, this can only end in a poor outcome. Either it’s terrible and nobody uses it, thus pissing away the $1.2 TRILLION of OUR MONEY that the president wants to start it, or it is a success in undercutting private healthcare putting thousands more (upon the millions already) out of a job.
Vote no on this bill, or any bill proposing government health care!
I don’t care if my health care is efficient for CEOs, financiers and hedge fund managers. Paying a compulsory 10% tax on health care to those sorts of folks is a bit like taxation without representation, isn’t it?
Why are jobs so desperately important to people? Are they unable to do anything useful without a whip at their backs or does it just make them feel more comfortable? Bring on the sole proprietors — and single-payer would do exactly that!
So-called small, independent business people and some whackos are leading a fight to keep this country from achieving universal health care. With the private insurance option we officially abandoned health care reform. Here’s my message to small business: I hope you ROT – I hope all of you go out of business. I’ve worked for small business people – it’s nearly always NUMERO UNO first. It’s the small business person and their family – the employee is an afterthought. I wish they’d tax the crud out of people who make over $100,000 per year. These folks talk about the jobs they create and all that – many of them are slave drivers who work their employees to death.
dfwenigme, small business is the backbone of the country, it is the driving force behind our economy. You should do some research. Nothing you have said holds any merit. I guess it is true that only about 22% of the public is informed when it comes to political matters in this country.
dfwenigma,
Small businesses have created 60-80% of net new jobs annually over the last decade. These nearly 30 million businesses employ about half of US workers. You would have these people “ROT” and “all go out of business”? For someone who wants fights for health care, where’s your compassion and foresight? Just because you had a some bad experiences, doesn’t mean it’s like that for everybody. The fact is, working at a big firm where a boss barely knows you, it’s then you become the “afterthought”, expendable, a statistic that only functions for the great whole. And besides, if a small business weren’t motivated by providing for “NUMERO UNO […] and their family”, what do you think would happen to their businesses and families? Either you want a welfare nation or you haven’t thought this through.
cura te ipsum, it’s these nearly 30 million small businesses that under the current system can’t afford health insurance for their employees that would benefit most by the bill. The uninsured or underinsured employees will finally be able to afford the kind of health insurance that’s currently offered only by the big companies. What’s wrong with that?
uba, I work for a small company of about 60 employees. Although it is a sacrifice financially for both the company and us employees, we value our health enough that we feel that the financial sacrifice is worth the gain of health and peace-of-mind.
Less than 20% of Americans want health insurance and can’t afford it. Nearly 40% of Americans who don’t have health insurance make over $50,000 a year. This bill will only increase government control and the citizen’s dependence upon it. If you value any of the values that America is founded on, you will see that this bill is unconstitutional, and simply the wrong way to go about health care reform. We all agree that the health care system needs a little work, but this bill is not the answer.
knight, you say that less than 20% of Americans want health insurance and can’t afford it? Considering the US population of roughly 307 mil that comes to 60 million people who are without health insurance!! that’s ok with you?
Then you go on saying that nearly 40% of Americans who don’t have health insurance make over $50,000/yr – in other words they make so much money they can pay cash for their doctor fees, hospitalization, etc? That’s ridiculous!
I’m happy for you that you have affordable health insurance and according to the bill you can keep it, so what’s your problem?
Nobody want’s to change the ‘health care’ system, what needs to be changed is the ‘health insurance’ system.
We, the people, want a choice! I don’t want my insurance carrier to tell me which doctor or hospital I must visit in order for them to pay!!!
Uba, according to your population numbers you would agree that 247 million americans would like to keep their current health insurance? America is a majority run nation, if 50% plus are happy with the current system, the sytem should stay.
Those who make over $50,000/yr can afford health insurance if they CHOOSE to buy it, it should be their choice whether they buy insurance or not.
I am happy with my current health insurance, but it is still a sacrifice, as it should be, to pay for it.
Uba, you really do not understand the bill if you think that everyone can keep their current health insurance if they like it. There are two very important stipulations that the bill places on the American citizen’s ability to keep their private health insurance. 1) Whether you choose to be privately insured, or government insured you still HAVE to pay for the government insurance, no matter what. 2) If you need to change insurance policies, you have no choice except to go to government insurance.
Both of these points are clearly stated in the bill, please go read it.
I know that there is no way that I could afford to pay both for private AND government insurance, and I know that the time will come when I’ll need to switch my health insurance policy. What does this mean? This means that within a very short amount of time everyone will be insured through the government, and ALL private insurance companies will be out of business.
Please explain to me how putting all of the private insurance companies out of business AND all their employees out of work could possibly help the economy.
If “we, the people” want a choice, then “we, the people” will do all that we can to make sure that this bill does NOT pass! This health care (not health insurance, read the explanation of the bill.) bill will take away the ability of the american citizen to choose what health insurance they want, or whether they even want health insurance in the first place.
Umm… Medicare is BY FAR the most efficiently run health care system in the world. Their administration costs are well under 10%…compare that to over 50% for your private insurance plan.
The reason it’s going under is because Bush didn’t think it was necessary to increase Medicare taxes when medical costs started skyrocketing.
Ask anyone in the military if they hate their health care plan. Report back to me when you do.
ummm… it wasn’t bush’s job to increase medicare funding… that’s congress & ssa. and medicare fraud is systemic. and military health care is terrible.
I am in the military and I agree our healthcare is horrible, for the soldiers that is. My wife had to have a hysterectomy and the way she was treated was great. If you want to know how Obamacare would look, look at the military health system, and trust me they ration as much as possible.
Another thought too while we’re at it… if you’re not on the “public option”, that doesn’t mean you still don’t have to pay for it. So if I don’t want the public option, now not only do I still have to pay for my own insurance (assuming it still exists) but for this public plan that I’m not even using as well. It’s a giant steaming pile that anyone has to pay for anything that they will not and may never use. The free market means choice, and this removes my choice.
Vote no on this bill!
Kind of like the public school system when you send your kids to private school, huh???
I know the public education system is totally off-topic, but I am curious, you think that public education shouldn’t be free? Wow, wonder how many people could afford to get an education at that point…. Since when did this country start providing services only to those who could afford them? First healthcare, and now education? What else do you propose get taken away from the common man? Is the US a country in which only the wealthy should be allowed to thrive?
The public option is an alternative to your current private option, which you are allowed to keep using as stated in the bill. You are not required to pay for the public option if you are already using a private option. The public option competes with private providers, thus allowing for a free market to take place because people have the CHOICE. Please cite where you came up with the idea that you have to pay for both.
you can not keep your current insurance after 5 years.