U.S. Congress - H.R.3200 America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009
H.R.3200 - America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009
America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 view all titles (5)
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- Official: America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 as introduced.
- Official: To provide affordable, quality health care for all Americans and reduce the growth in health care spending, and for other purposes. as introduced.
- Popular: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 as introduced.
- Short: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 as introduced.
- Short: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 as reported to house.
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You’re kidding right? This bill is being rammed through without true consideration. If it such a good plan, then why isn’t Congress and the President rushing to enroll? I don’t think President Obama cares about the American public as much as cares about his own agenda.
It’s being rushed because it needs to be done while the momentum is there – we know we can’t count on a Republican president ever doing a THING for health care…. and we also know that unless the Democrat has a strong majority – repubs will fight it to the end… truly they would rather people just die… they are the death panels.
That is why we are ‘rushing this’… because now is the time… and possibly the only time.
First things first when you have a few million dollars the cost of health care is not an issue. Depending on where you work and how much money you have will determine weather or not the current plan you have is good enough. The comment that you make is insane, if you can afford a brand new BMW why would you drive nothing or a 12 year old rust bucket.
Congress and the President want a single-payer system. As in everyone in America is covered by the same policy. The president has even stated this was his primary goal. Please research your cynicism beforehand.
Hurry! Hurry! Hurry! Shove it down the people’s throats. Dont let them read the bill, don’t let them understand it, just bend them over and DRIVE. WE THE PEOPLE are sick of your communist crap. I’ll bet against you.
..we’re reading the bill.. well – at least I have.. I don’t know about you.
So their isn’t much weight behind your statement of ’Don’t let them read the bill’ when this is actually the first administration to EVER LET US READ THE FRICKEN BILL. IN HISTORY. Did we get to go over the ‘patriot act’ line by line and consider the ramifications before our phones got tapped? Before we handed over our rights to the last administration?But.. still I watch as you all talk about how ‘we the people’ means nothing.. when during THIS administration we have been provided more input in the legislative process than ever in history.
lux, look at the date of the post you are responding to, that comment was was made over two weeks ago. When that comment was made the House was trying to get the bill passed before the august recess and before people had had a chance to see or read the bill. Do you not remember that? or are you a troll?
If we allow this bill to pass, we will be subjecting our children to a nation that has little to no Freedoms plain and simple! Now they are asking people to turn other people into them, should they talk ill of this? What next, Dictatorship?
This is stunning!
..Healthcare rationing
..Mandated audits of the books of private companies
..A National Health ID card worded as “National ID Card the CHIP”, complete with government access to your personal information and even your bank accounts. What on earth is the CHIP? Is is what the card is to be called, or a separate entity all together?
.. Government decisions about what healthcare benefits you can receive, even from your private employer.
.. Employers required to auto-enroll all employees in ObamaCare with no options.
.. Government mandated Health Care where the Government choose what health care procedures you need, not you or your physician.
The CHIP is an acronym for a program that gives kids health care.. and it’s actually SCHIP…
It has nothing to do with an ID card… it’s a program .. like MEDICARE.. but it’s S.C.H.I.P. – get it?? You need to take the tin foil hat off and relax.
But yes, with the health care reform you will have a card to show you have health insurance… everyone who has health insurance does.
And no.. this wouldn’t cause rationing, it’s likely to make lines SHORTER, not longer. For one thing, if people have insurance they will get more regular checkups and be healthier overall.. so that means less lines of people waiting to get treated (simple logic really – better health = less illness)
Employers aren’t required to enroll employees in the govt program.
read the bill.
The government also doesn’t decide what procedures you can have… it only decides what a basic insurance plan consists of… and nothing more.
Everything you’ve said is completely wrong.
Unfortunately we elected everyone of these people up there deciding our future. Isn’t it ironic that they have the power to decide ours but we don’t have the power to decide theirs. They give themselves raises, they have a far superior health care and retirement policy than any of the people they represent. They are in charge of our schools and have dumbed us down so hopefully we won’t notice. These are the ones representing THE PEOPLE. HA! I wouldn’t bet my health on it.
I think people who oppose this legislation should tend with a catastrophic illness, the insurance nightmare and heartache that goes with it first, then make a decision on your support or lack there of for this bill. You just haven’t stepped into the mud yet. Once you do, I guarantee you’ll understand how important this is to everyone of us, right now. Or better yet talk to someone who’s been down that road and let them tell you their story. You’ll understand then.
I am trying to understand this with all of the stuff going around the media. I am open minded. My brother, not so much. He thinks that with this bill the Government will be involved with all aspects of your life, and will eliminate private insurance. is this true?
and he says, " Look at page 16 of the house bill. It says that after the bill passes if you or insurance company changes your policy you have to buy into the public system." I didn’t see this, so I didn’t know if this is in there, or just his fears.
I do not know what page it is on, but according the Betsy McCaughey on the Hannity show on 8/12, it is true.
You would be required to convert over to the govt plan as would your employer. Those not doing so would be subject to additional TAXES. (yes the wording is taxes not fines)
Additional employers would face penalties up to 8% for not particiapting.
The only group that is specificall exempted in the wording of th ebill is, drum roll please……illegal aliens!
Do a web search by her name and see what she has written. She is a patient advocate and spends a great deal of time working in the medical profeesion. She has actually read the entire bill several times.
yes here we go again. we have a democrat for president who is energetic and intelligent trying to improve a health care system that is badly in need of fixing. so naturally what we can expect from the republicans is outrageous, if not down right dangerous lies and roadblocks. we have seen this tactic before when we have had a democrat as president. and who better to perputrate the lies than sarah palin? if not the most educated politician around she is certainly the one who knows how to get the most attention. but let us not forget that she too is first and foremost a politician. and four years from now, after the republicans have effectively brought to a stand-still any positive change the Obama administration has tried to implement, the republicans will point a finger at the democrats and say “don’t vote for them they promised so much and accomplished so little.”
Psst… Democrats are also coming out against and blocking this legislation. If the only opposition was from republicans it would have already passed the house were Dems have a 2/3rds majority.
I am a HR Mgr who experiences double-digit renewal increases every year for approx. 100 employees. Corporate tax deduction is a big reason we continue to provide health/dental benefits to our employees. Employee cost sharing has increased through higher deductibles or co-pays. Insurance companies make exhorbitant profits. Tweak the current system slowly: eprescribing (no more written scripts; pharmacy can pull script from a central system, cuts down duplication and dangerous interaction of meds); cost transparency (ability to shop procedure and prescription costs), paperless system (instead of signing a HIPPA doc how about sitting at a kiosk, reading the statement and signing off electronically?) Start w/the health ins. cos and crack down on their overcharging and inefficiencies. Re pre-existing conditions, yes, they’ll be eliminated, but you won’t be able to afford it. Health ins. is similar to auto ins it priced on risk. More risk they have to assume, the higher the cost.
The costs of private insurance has skyrocketed, money going in – money denied when you need it, millions can not afford health care, employers offer little or no coverage, and we have sat for too long ignoring the issue while hard working Americans, young and old, die from preventable conditions.
Get educated about the facts. Don’t fall victim to misinformation. America needs Health Care Reform now. Before too long only the wealthy will be fortunate enough to live healthy….
You are aware that this bill will cause your insurance premium to triple right?
We The People spoke in the election, when we elected our Congressional representatives and our president. Now we speak out on the issues where and how we can. No one is excluding the people from this process, least of all Barack Obama.
Health care reform has been discussed and proposed since Truman. Obama announcing his resolve to finally do something about it doesn’t diminish anyone’s contribution to the process.
“No one is excluding the people from this process,”
Then why did they trying to pass it before the august recess before copies of the bill were made public?
This bill is not about “health care”, it is about the takeover of your freedom to chose. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DECIDE YOUR OWN CARE!!! That is the simple truth of the matter. This bill no longer allows people to live, but actually sentences them to death. READ THE BILL. All those who support this bill, YOU HAVE NOT READ IT. People in Washington will be deciding who lives and dies, tell where the FREEDOM is with that. This is the greatest country ever, where we the people get to make our own decisions, your yourself get to decide. There are enough countries in the world where this type of healthcare already exists. Those who have the finances come to this country to get top notch healthcare. I wonder how many Americans go to Europe, Russia, China the Middle East to pay for their healthcare?
Yes, herrky, America is the greatest country in the world and the only country in the world that has 40 million people without any health coverage!
I know where you get your information….not from having read the bill, that’s for sure.
Uba Please educate us and tell us who those over 40 million uninsured people are.
http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2009/feb/20/business/chi-fri-uofc-emergency-feb20
ER doctors condemn University of Chicago plan to divert patients
Group says move is “dangerously close” to breaking law, calls for congressional probe.
The hospital’s effort to manage patient care began with a group of executives that included First Lady Michelle Obama, who was involved in early efforts to educate patients on the best use of the emergency room. The Urban Health Initiative is now run by one of President Barack Obama’s closest friends, Dr. Eric Whitaker.
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not from what I have seen most people think this spending is out of control. I am not sayint there shouldn’t be some kind of reform but passing a bill that they mostly likely won’t read in such a hurry doesn’t solve but creates more problems that will be impossible to undo. I don’t think the government can run any program look at SS and medicare!
Yeah a 92% satisfaction rate with medicare is a failure. Social Security was implemented before the baby boom. It’s not a savings system. There isn’t much to manage/work with. Could it have been managed better? Sure but I don’t see by any significant margin.
Simple equation is cost vs expenses. We have baby boomers retiring and not as many people paying into the system.
The intricacies of capitalism are much like those of mother nature. What seems like a catastrophic end to the system is actually the birth of a system more well suited for the time at hand. Whereas mother nature will never miss an opportunity for an organism to thrive and reproduce, the free market will not miss a chance to profit. If this bill proves to be a certain death to the private healthcare insurance industry, then it may put us closer to the birth of healthcare facilities that find profitable ways to provide services affordable enough to be paid out of pocket by the consumer without the need of subsidies from any type of health insurance programs, government or otherwise. The problem ultimately resides in the COST of healthcare regardless of how it is paid for. While this bill may not do much to reduce the cost of healthcare, it could be the natural disaster needed for the evolution of an affordable healthcare system to begin.
It was not the purpose of “We the People” to bankrupt this country with an expensive healthcare plan. Mr. Obama did not win an overwhelming majority, or the privilege to extort all Americans. The office of the president is in the hands of a man, who cares little for “we the people.” Someone (the original poster or poser) is not paying attention to his whole agenda, which is about placing more control over our individual lives and decisions in the hands of the new vanguard and a growing menagerie of bureaucrats.
PM Connors
If it’s We the People then why isn’t it published so every citizen can read it thoroughly themselves and then vote on it. Then it would be We the People.