H.R.3200 - America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009

America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 view all titles (5)

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  • Official: America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 as introduced.
  • Official: To provide affordable, quality health care for all Americans and reduce the growth in health care spending, and for other purposes. as introduced.
  • Popular: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 as introduced.
  • Short: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 as introduced.
  • Short: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 as reported to house.

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    Roxannestruppeck 08/19/2009 1:46pm

    Do you know what the taxes are like in Canada?! And why are Canadians coming to the US for medical treatment?! Socialized healthcare is NOT free; it actually costs inevitably much more, and not just monetary!

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    bkrueg 08/27/2009 8:51am

    My wife and I were at Disneyland in California having lunch on Main Street USA and we meet this wonderful Canadian couple that were in the area to have surgery that their government run health care system refused to provide for another two years. They said we in the USA have better health care and that they in Canada paid more in taxes for their health care that they could not get then my wife and I paid for our health insurance for health care that we did get. A British couple at the next table spoke up that they get better health care if they life in certain zip codes in England and the health care is not uniform throughout t the country. They also complained about having to pay for all the illegal’s health care in England. They both said the system was very unfair and were amazed the USA was even considering it. My wife and I have decided that government run health care was not for us.
    JUST-SAY-NO TO HR-3200.

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    cbsullivan16 10/13/2009 12:52pm
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    Nice reliance on anecdotal evidence there, buddy. You really built a strong case based on the two Canadians and two Brits that you talked to. Maybe you should run for Congress!

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    HospiceChaplain 08/21/2009 3:13pm

    you are either too lazy or bull headed to look for FACTS or real evidence to back up your statements
    on 2 & 3 the US ranks below 33 at best, 50th at worst here are the sources: United Nations World Population Prospects report, for the period 2005-20102, and the CIA World Factbook, last updated on April 2, 2009

    and before you impune this data, show some of your own – you are not quoting facts and the facts listed in this forum does NOT support any statement you just made! (With the possible exception of wait list – this is a half truth)

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    abaratar 08/23/2009 4:38pm

    If you read this thread you will understand the ranking ued by the WHO, we are number one with premature birth survival rates, the reason the other countries are higher on the list is becaue they do not count a child as being a live birth ,depending on the country, for 24 hours to 7 days after it is born, they also do not consider a child born prior to 25 weeks gestation to be alive same for children born under 18 ounces, they don’t count those dead babies against their live birth rates they just let them die. We save those children’s lives everyday.

    The United States HAS THE LONGEST LIFE EXPECTANCY IN THE WORLD, when you subtract car wrecks and murders, we drive more and we are more violent, that has nothing to do with health care.

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    JMatzelle57 09/12/2009 1:42am
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    I’m in Favor of Heathcare,

    If you lose your job and lose your healthcoverage i guess you just wanna die or wait 8-10 hrs at a hosptial that dont have the right care

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    KD5NRH 09/14/2009 11:03pm

    If I lose my job, I get off my butt and get another one. I’ve done it before when the job market was lousy, and I can do it again.

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    pandawa 09/24/2009 12:35pm
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    wow. an absence of fact finally an arguement makes!
    i’ll rush over and tell my old english teacher. he’ll be thrilled!

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    abaratar 08/23/2009 5:25pm
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    HospiseChaplain we already had this conversation, if you start on page 25 of this tread you will see how the WHO rankings came about.

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    scopemonkey 08/21/2009 11:53pm

    What utter BS. Get off your “America is the Best” rant and open your eyes. Some of the best physicians, research, medicines (look who owns the pharmaceutical companies), and OUTCOMES come from Europe. Some of the best equipment comes from Japan. We rank poorly for infant mortality and life expectancy. We let the uninsured fester with disease until they show up in our Emergency rooms needing high level, expensive care which COSTS more money that YOU ALREADY pay. You cite a lot of “Other Countries” and while I can’t speak for Uzbekistan, most of the other economically advanced societies (UK, Switzerland, France, etc) fare far better in OVERALL outcomes than the US—-with a socialized system!

    Also, citing internet blog postings as facts is ludicrous. I’m sure everything on Facebook is true……

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    uba 08/22/2009 4:53am

    scopemonkey & caricokatie
    BCBS of Michigan went on the local news a couple of days ago to announce an average increase of 22% in premiums. When asked why they were doing this with the economy as bad as it is, the spokesman said that Blue Cross is the only insurance in the state that offers coverage for pre-existing conditions.

    We know why the nay sayers are against health insurance reform, because they all watch the trash Fox News channel that has poisoned their mind with all the lies they are spreading….but worst of all are these rogue senators like that fuddy duddy Grasseley in IOWA spreading lies … I want to know how these guys were elected? Of course we know why the Republicans are against insurance reform, they worry about their campaign funds they receive from the insurance companies. I’ve come to the conclusion that these nay sayers are simply too lazy to read or too ignorant to comprehend what’s in the bill, so they let the trash media guide them.

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    merrilln 09/11/2009 6:15pm

    I am not against health care/insurance reform, I am against this bill. I watch Fox news because they are the only ones who are not in bed with the Obama administration. Are you going to listen to NBC who is owned by GE who is deeply in bed with this administration! NBC sells Obama gifts in their gift shop for pitty sakes! This is an impartial media? About Republicans meeting with insurance companies, it’s the White House who is meeting with both the insurance companies and Big Pharm in secret meetings!
    I am for any reform that includes tort reform, shopping across state lines, coverage for people with pre-existing conditions, no coverage for illegal aliens, being able to pick what coverage I want, like I am almost 50, I don’t need maternity coverage,
    See HR 3400 by Dr. Tom Price!I do support that bill!

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    abaratar 10/18/2009 7:19pm

    False on everything you said, read he rest of this tread before you make another comment. hell just Google cancer survival rate by country or any other medical condition for that matter we have the best treatment and survival rates in the world, that is across the board regardless of income. even the WHO gave us the #1 ranking for response. If you look further into this tread you will see links to the CDC and WHO that back all of this up. You are much more likely to die if you get cancer, Heart disease or are born premature in in he UK france are switzerland then in the US. We are also number one in Medical equipment you will see government links supporting that on page 3. But that is all to be expected we spent more money then anyone else.

    Americans have been awarded more Nobel prizes on health related issues then every other country in the world combined.

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    earthtravel 09/11/2009 8:52pm
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    Useless uneducated paranoid dribble . . go waist your energy somewhere else.

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    abaratar 10/18/2009 7:16pm

    “Then how do all the other developed nations in the world afford it” I’m glad you asked, if you look though this thread you will see the answers.

    Other countries afford because America trains their doctors, builds their medical equipment and researches their drugs.

    Other countries afford it by letting babies and old people die.

    Other countries afford by not treating people over 65 for the flu.

    Other countries afford it by denying heart surgery and hip replacements to people over 70.

    Other countries afford it by charging extra for air conditioned hospital rooms.

    Other countries afford it by making people wait 6 months to see a doctor.

    Other countries afford it be denying care to people who’s lives they think will not be productive.

    If you reed through this forum you will see detail and facts to support every statement I just made.

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    LucasFoxx 10/19/2009 6:35pm
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    “Other countries afford it by letting babies and old people die.” This just makes you look like an ignorant xenophobe.

    “Other countries afford by not treating people over 65 for the flu.”

    After you made me dig into the WHO documentation, it looks like we’re the ones doing that. I’m being facetious, but it is odd to be so proud of what this country has to offer and yet fall so short on basic human levels when compared to our industrialized peers.

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    abaratar 10/20/2009 10:38pm

    yes other countries let babies die, in the US any baby born over 5 ounces is considered a live birth we save those babies lives everyday, in the countries with with the socialist medical programs a baby that is born prior to 25 weeks gestation is not considered alive and they let them die, same for babies born weighing less then 18 ounces at birth, hell they don’t even consider a baby that was born alive at a healthy weight and at full term to be an “live birth” if it dies within 1 to 7 days after birth(varies by country) they call it a mis-carriage

    As for the flu medicine and people over 65 just google

    “antivirals spain seniors”, “antivirals Canada seniors” or “antivirals itally seniors”

    I do not know what you mean by “fall so short on basic human levels” The US the best survival rates regardless of income for most all major illnesses in the world.

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    LucasFoxx 10/21/2009 5:46pm
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    Cite your source..

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    StreetBeaver 08/26/2009 5:50pm
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    Have you ever met a canadian? Just curious cause i have neverheard of Bill Shatnerrunning home to Canada for a “procedure” and am pretty sure Pam Anderson was treated here too. but its worked wonders in Cuba. so you are likely right

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    merrilln 09/11/2009 6:02pm

    Tell that to the woman who spoke at Killer Creek Harley yesterday, her sister lives in Canada and has been diagnosed with breast cancer, she was given an appointment date with her surgeon, July 2010! John Stocell, 20/20 did a piece on the Canadian system. If you are a pet and need an MRI they can get it in next week, people wait a month! This was from a Vet in Canada. Most people in Canada in small towns don’t have doctors, they have a lottery system. The town clerk pulls a few names from a hat and calls you when the doctor can accept new patients.

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    pandawa 08/30/2009 8:16am
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    What freedoms will be lost?
    What “great nations”
    Babble babble
    I WANT FACTS! not babble!


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