U.S. Congress - H.R.3200 America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009
H.R.3200 - America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009
America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 view all titles (5)
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- Official: America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 as introduced.
- Official: To provide affordable, quality health care for all Americans and reduce the growth in health care spending, and for other purposes. as introduced.
- Popular: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 as introduced.
- Short: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 as introduced.
- Short: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 as reported to house.
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Your inability to understand the basic concepts and application of the Constitution does not mean that I’m not dealing in reality.
What proof do you have that they are constitutional? Just because you’re too young to know any different doesn’t mean that’s the way it should be. It was only in the 30’s with FDR that social programs started. Who says you have the right to redistribute wealth based on need?
You have no proof, only insults. You have no argument, except that we haven’t explained things to you. I don’t think it’s my job to explain the constitution to you. Go read it.
> FDR that social programs started
In a large scale perhaps. But in his case this country has still NOT RECOVERED from the DAMAGE of FDR.
nObama already has incurred
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of debt
… and he has had an imperceptible positive effect
Apparently, you don’t know that you are already paying for it. Any insurance you have now, (regulated or not), is rated based on what I do or don’t do. Either way, you pay!
> medicaid and social security … are socialist programs that
> have proven themselves ineffective considering one is broke
> and the other will be all too soon
They’re both GREAT PONZI schemes. We’ll need more money than ‘e’ (think Einstein) in the universe to continue them
> The boat left that dock decades ago.
If you have abandoned all hope you aren’t much of an American by your own standards.
> then you’re acting in an unnecessarily risky way for others,
Exactly what risk does the uninsured pose to the insured in your world view?
I pray that none of the people who love their insurance never lose their job!
But if they do lose their jobs (read…if we do lose our jobs) its our own responsibility to provide for ourselves or go with out the benefits of health insurance. I know I know, taxpayers will have to pay for those emergency room visits. Well start a petition I’ll be the first name on the list, no free healthcare even at emergency rooms. But thats too calloused, its much easier to just take from those who’ve earned to give to those who haven’t.
> its much easier to just take from those who’ve earned to give to those who haven’t.
Until those with complain louder than those without.
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So what? This piece of legislation won’t fix that. I know you think it will but that cost will be found later in rationing. To think otherwise is foolish and childish. Regulate health insurance? yeah, regulate health care cost? yeah. Provide either of the above for anyone unwilling to provide for themselves and thats….you guessed it, its anything but freedom for those who are FORCED to support it.
Will health care legislation mean “government funding of abortion”?
Despite what Obama said, the House bill would allow abortions to be covered by a federal plan and by federally subsidized private plans.
President Obama said Wednesday that’s “not true” and among several “fabrications” being spread by “people who are bearing false witness.” But abortion foes say it’s the president who’s making a false claim. “President Obama today brazenly misrepresented the abortion-related component” of health care legislation, said Douglas Johnson, legislative director for the National Right to Life Committee. So which side is right?
> the president who’s making a false claim
Obama lied. Obama lies.
The truth is in writing.
Until his obamaness put’s his claims in writing they’re still baseless claims (lies).
The truth is that bills now before Congress don’t require federal money to be used for supporting abortion coverage. So the president is right to that limited extent. But it’s equally true that House and Senate legislation would allow a new “public” insurance plan to cover abortions, despite language added to the House bill that technically forbids using public funds to pay for them.
Obama has said in the past that “reproductive services” would be covered by his public plan, so it’s likely that any new federal insurance plan would cover abortion unless Congress expressly prohibits that. Low- and moderate-income persons who would choose the “public plan” would qualify for federal subsidies to purchase it. Private plans that cover abortion also could be purchased with the help of federal subsidies. Therefore, we judge that the president goes too far when he calls the statements that government would be funding abortions “fabrications.”
how does slaughtering one’s own child further reproduction?
What does “reproductive services” mean to Pres. Obama?
Well take a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqww8jmizug&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fstoptheabortionagenda.com%2F&feature=player_embedded
What does “reproductive services” mean to Pres. Obama?
Well take a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqww8jmizug&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fstoptheabortionagenda.com%2F&feature=player_embedded
I TOOK A LOOK AND SAW A BOLD FACE LIER, OBAMA. HR-1200 WILL FUND ABORTION.
HR-3200 healthcare plan, the president said, “You’ve heard that this is all going to mean government funding of abortion. Not true. These are all fabrications that have been put out there in order to discourage people from meeting what I consider to be a core ethical and moral obligation – and that is that we look out for one another, that I am my brother’s keeper and I am my sister’s keeper.”
How does slaughtering one’s own child fit into one’s moral obligations?
How does slaughtering one’s own child fit into looking out for one another?
You poor, naive people. Don’t you realize that the whole healthcare issue is a magician’s misdirection? It’s really about control. If I have absolute control of your healthcare, and when there is no competition to anywhere else (this is ALL about “single payer”), then I can control your life. I can mandate what you eat, what you drive, what you wear, all in the name of “protecting” your health. (“Hey, you shouldn’t be drinking whole milk, it’s not healthful. You have to drink soy milk.”) Or red meat, etc., etc.
As example, the Feds have set themselves up as the “single payer” for road building and maintenance. They have just told the states that if they don’t pass laws to “outlaw texting while driving”, they’ll cut off their road maintenance “funding”. It’s all about control.
web search: Foodicare
This is going to get rammed down our throats just like the first bail-out package. Anyone I talked to didn’t want the first bail-out to happen but our illustrious leaders (Senators, Reps) would NOT listen. I wrote letters and the response I got was basically “We know what’s best for you and The Country.” (You little peon!! What are you thinking?)
Anything the government tries to control becomes a nightmare; financially (costs skyrocket), paperwork needed and it will totally unaccountable or corrupt. It’s going to make Canada’s system look good!! We’ll definitely be flocking to Mexico for health care now.
I have an idea!! Why don’t they fix what’s broken?? What happened to stream-lining the government? Putting in accountability standards? Controlling costs?? Where the hell did this premise go from our President’s platform?
If they would fix Insurance and Drug Companies and dump the lobbyist’s, things might fall in line. Stop the bleeding!! Quit spending money!!!
the tree of liberty is getting thirsty
I am in favor of a Helath Care Overhaul but NOT Government run or regulated-that is where “SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS” such as Illegal Immigrants that may become Democrat later on are allowed. With the Govt. ,out of the picture, then it may be possible!
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Roads, schools, fire department, county park, city water, county park employee, county nursing home and police all STATE not FEDERAL. You really have the most primitive concept of what socialism, fascism, communism and capitalism each are. State funded programs are far different from federal. Don’t be simpleminded and think that one thing translates to the other…., or do whatever.
Talk about oblivious.
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> Don’t be simpleminded
If you could effect that change H.R.3200 would never have been tabled.