H.R.3200 - America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009

America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 view all titles (5)

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  • Official: America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 as introduced.
  • Official: To provide affordable, quality health care for all Americans and reduce the growth in health care spending, and for other purposes. as introduced.
  • Popular: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 as introduced.
  • Short: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 as introduced.
  • Short: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 as reported to house.

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abaratar 08/19/2009 11:48pm
in reply to uba Aug 19, 2009 3:10pm

It is already free to do a living will why would the government want to pay for something that is already free?

medbob 07/15/2009 11:29am

This is not only wrong, it’s immoral. These idiots are not listening! Is there anything that we the people can do to stop this madness?
How can I get involved beyond being ignored by my Representatives?

rjwh1ster 07/16/2009 12:27pm

Vote NO.

1. This bill does not change the fee for service payment method which has led to health care cost inflation.

2. The revenues to pay for a “social” program should be broad based and incentivize better health habits (tax on fast food; sugary drinks; or voluntary health procedures such as plastic surgery).

3. Increasing the number of health consumers will lead to either more price inflation or more wait times for services.

4. This bill mandates minimum coverage and restricts choice. This will just increase costs across the board.

StreetBeaver 08/26/2009 5:47pm
in reply to uba Aug 20, 2009 6:27am

Sweet for a savings of only $250 dollars i can throw away all personal freedom and responsibility and Go feed at the teat of my neighbors…… and they said social fascism would never fly in “america”. I am so glad i stumbled acroos your comments whilst cleaning my guns and reading my Bible(GWBush edition). While I 100percent agree that the healthcare system needs fixed i think we can do better if we just let real competition work and perhaps look at tort reform. Too bad our “glorious leader” has been a lawyer too long to piss away his lobbyist support. If the bill is so good why are the government workers exempt from it?

daringone 07/15/2009 2:57am

All this “rushing” with this administration… how about taking some time to consider what is being done with something so big as:

1 – An $800 billion stimulus bill

2 – Cap and Trade

3 – Government run health care

In all seriousness, because the government is sooooo efficient at running other public welfare programs (see Social Security and Medicare) why would we ever want them stepping in to run health care for everyone. As I’ve posted elsewhere here, this can only end in a poor outcome. Either it’s terrible and nobody uses it, thus pissing away the $1.2 TRILLION of OUR MONEY that the president wants to start it, or it is a success in undercutting private healthcare putting thousands more (upon the millions already) out of a job.

Vote no on this bill, or any bill proposing government health care!

willison8 09/03/2009 5:30pm
in reply to scopemonkey Aug 21, 2009 11:29pm

Try suing the government and see how far you get. At least I can sue if I think I’m being mistreated by my insurer. Of course H.R. 3200 allows for grievances but who is the arbiter? The same bureaucracy that caused you the grievance in the first place. Government may be accountable to us collectively but certainly not individually. I can not trust the public-option not only because it can not offer a suitable redress of offense but also because it must limit my options for alternative insurance.

LStocking 07/26/2009 6:35pm

The fact that on page 425 of the HCR Bill, it states; any Senior Citizen on Medicare will undergo counseling for Asissted Suicide every 5 years.
These people are playing GOD, and no one is saying anything about it.
Do you have elderly parents? If the government has their way, it will be the government who decides when they die…..any thoughts from anyone?

ClearLenses 07/22/2009 11:26am
in reply to ljbpshoo Jul 22, 2009 7:20am

This is a quote from our representative in the House. “As the health care reform debate continues I find it troubling that in draft legislation, Members of Congress would be exempt from participating in a public health care plan. If Members truly believe that a government-run plan will deliver quality health care then they should not have a problem enrolling in the public plan.”
If it is good enough for everyone else, why should members of Congress be exempt? JUST CRAZY!

zhowland 07/21/2009 9:02am

Insurance is a promise of compensation for specific potential future losses in exchange for periodic payments in order to protect an entity from UNEXPECTED loss.

What this bill creates is not an insurance program, but a universal health plan mandated by the federal government. If you want to see what it creates, take a look at the UK, Canada, France, and Cuba.

Why we would do this when we have the best health system on the planet is beyond me. But even more disturbing is that entire sections of this bill are blank or “to be filled in later”. Additionally, certain politicians are in such a rush to get it pushed through, but it won’t take effect until 2013. What’s the hurry?

There is no reason for this bill. It will not make anything better, and, frankly, is unconstitutional.

kmadey 07/21/2009 5:13am

You all want to see what government run health care looks like? Go down to your local DMV. That will be the method by which our health care will be managed. Remember this is as much about class warfare as it is about control. The people that will end up administering this “plan” will be the same people that vilify the “rich”.

Regarding the “number of Americans without health care”, exactly how does that number break down? What percentage of that number includes young working Americans that are willing to forgo insurance to have a little more spending money? What percentage of that number represents illegal aliens? And finally, if the number really is 45 million, then by my count that means that 255 million Americans have insurance!

clearcreek 08/17/2009 7:21pm
in reply to Sarazona1313 Aug 11, 2009 1:12pm

Try working and providing your own like we did. I paid into a health plan and raised 4 children. I am NOT interested in paying for everyone else. We have bailed out mortgages, cash for clunkers, extended unemployment benefits and food stamps so we must stop somewhere! People whine and moan about everything and then go out buy something they can’t afford expecting the taxpayers to pick up the tab for health care. Hey, have a nice day……..

D_Right_One 09/13/2009 6:35am
in reply to nfcooper Sep 11, 2009 3:19pm

The govt workers already have good govt insurance. I’m not an expert at what ails private insurance. I know mine is not the best and I get turned down by Blue Cross frequently for a host of seemingly random excuses. I want what the govt employees have.

kmadey 07/21/2009 6:39am
in reply to deannalee1369 Jul 19, 2009 5:04pm

There isn’t such a thing as a “best” public plan. If there is any reform to be had it is in the insurance expectation levels of consumers. Health insurance was never meant to cover every single little illness. The current “cover all” plans available have removed healthcare from the free market and thereby eliminated competition through fixed pricing. Health insurance was originally called hospitalization. And it covered catastrophic illnesses that required the services of a hospital. All other care was paid for by the user at their doctor’s office. Getting back to that concept would reduce insurance premiums and move healthcare back into the free market naturally driving down prices through healthy competition.

mgamble 07/19/2009 9:20am

Stupid is, is what stupid does! Senators and Congressmen who vote to increase the deficit will be voted out of Congress. We the people are tired of the out of control spending and the liberal socialist agenda. Tax rates will be higher than every other country except Denmark if these bills pass. Cap and Trade, healthcare reform, take 2nd amendment gun ownership away for We the people will not tolerated.

jmontes 07/18/2009 5:21pm

The current healthcare reform plan produced by Congressional Democrats and supported by President Obama would be a disaster for the economy, and result in an unprecedented government encroachment on the healthcare industry

Urge your Representatives, Senators, and the President to reconsider better alternatives that will not require big government, big spending, and tax increases on small businesses as the solution

glr 07/22/2009 7:33am
in reply to ljbpshoo Jul 22, 2009 7:17am

There is a 1000 character limit to postings if your posting is longer it directs you to a page with an email address.

katiemc10 07/18/2009 12:21pm

If this health care option is so good, I think that the president, and the members of the senate and house should all give up their gold plated, health plans (which we pay for by the way), and be the first ones to enroll in this government run health care plan.

DMiller2911 07/20/2009 2:00pm

Once we have to hurry to pass a bill! Obama is dropping in the polls so he needs to shove as much stuff through as he can before the next election. We need something done with health care but it is not a government run program because as with everything the government try to do (postal service, Social Security, Medicare,etc..) they fail! Leave this in the hands of the private sector and provide some limits and it will self regulate. Government health care is NOT the answer!

desolation_anonymous 07/22/2009 11:30am

Combination of Sections 101, 102, 201, 203

#1)You can keep your own plan, if you pay for it yourself and the insurance company continues to provide that plan. If you ever have to change plans you have to chose a plan in the “Health Insurance Exchange”.

  1. Have your insurance through your employer and like it? Tough luck. After five years after date enactment AT THE MOST, your employer will be forced to chose options from the Health Insurance Exchange.
deborahg6 07/18/2009 9:24am
in reply to bgrossen Jul 18, 2009 8:54am

I agree that insurance is the problem. I don’t think completely eliminating them is the answer. We need reform. Allow for tax breaks/cuts to patients. Right now only employers receive that, and employees are the ones paying! Expand H.S.A.‘s and put real “freedom of choice” to work…that will allow for more competition in the insurance market. There are so many other ideas for reform on the table, but we all know that this clearly is not about “reform”. It’s about this President and his administrations’ desire for government control…under the guise of helping the uninsured. This will hurt so many Americans. I am afraid for my grandmother, parents, and children.

deborahg6 07/18/2009 10:23am

She talks about the “End of Life” counseling that will be required every five years for the elderly.

Somebody pinch me. We are still living in America, right?

oderintdummetuant 09/26/2009 9:39am
in reply to bhumphreys52 Sep 26, 2009 8:20am

Really? And you talk about me being ignorant? “That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,…” do you recognize this? Any form of government, including our own can and will trample the rights of the individual.
To ensure America doesn’t have a king? No. The design of our government is such in the best effort to put the power of government into the hands of the people. Your allusion to the “rights they interpreted in the 17 and 1800’s” being moot because we live in a different time is a misunderstanding of your own argument. Principles, the basic principles to which you refer below (I’m getting there) do not nor will they ever change.

bkrueg 09/17/2009 11:03am

Jdporter-Everyone who has read your entry to the HR-3200 debate feels your pain and most have gone through it in their own personal lives. I for one am very sorry for your loss.
I didn’t ask the neighbor lady or the farmer in the next State to pay for the costs when it happened to my mother and dad. Why do you want the cold, heartless government who bankrupt everything they administer to be involved at a time like this? The same government who provide the worst health care in the nation to the Native American Indians. The same government who do not think the very young sick or the sick elderly should be a priority for the first flu shots available. JUST-SAY-NO TO HR-3200.

oderintdummetuant 09/21/2009 7:35am
in reply to bhumphreys52 Sep 18, 2009 10:19am

I think you mean “conspiracy” bhumphreys. Lets not cast the “go get educated” stone when we…, well you get the idea.

Freedom4America 07/17/2009 3:45am

This bill is a good example of why Americans need to “CLEAN HOUSE” in Washington. The behind the scenes corruption is no longer behind the scenes. Politicians, unions, and corporations will be the benefactors of this bill with the average American paying for it. One need only look at the exponential growth of government offices to administer the program. We must shout from every corner of this wonderful country and tell Washington that “we” do not want more government, period!

deborahg6 07/18/2009 8:36am
in reply to bgrossen Jul 18, 2009 6:20am

This really is not a “Republican” vs. “Democrat” issue anymore. This is an American freedom issue vs. government control (socialism). It is clear that you place an abundant amount of trust in our government. Good for you. The rest of us are objectively skeptical and with good reason. It is alarming that we’ve come to this place where a self procalimed elite group believes that they know what is best for the greater good and must control an entire population’s health care. That is not freedom in any form.

tromero 07/27/2009 4:31pm

Three cheers for Congressman John Fleming of Louisiana! Congressman John Fleming (Louisiana physician) has proposed an amendment that would require congressmen and senators and their families to sign-up for the same Healthcare plan they design for us. If you agree with him, please go his website and sign his petition.

ggenovez 07/21/2009 4:58am

We are tackling the wrong problem. The real problem is not the lack of health insurance but the actual slush that happens behind the scenes.

I recently found out that a standard blood test for an annual exam costs my insurance company $20. This is known as the negotiated rate. If I did not have any insurance then the cost is $550 for that same test.

Lets focus on the criminal acts of health care practices over transferring the problem.

abaratar 07/17/2009 1:12am
in reply to marxmarv Jul 16, 2009 9:00pm

The NHS has lots of problems have you been following this
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/jan/16/nhs-health-personal-budgets
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7831804.stm
rather than insurance they are going to give people cash annually that they can spend how they want. They think it will be more cost effective to let patients choose their own care and they think patients will spend less money if they are spending it out of their own budget.

Why is America trying to get enact a system that England is trying to get away from?
NHS also can’t have hand sanitizer in their facilities because their clients drink it!

SouthSideScotty 09/01/2009 11:42am
in reply to uba Aug 31, 2009 1:43am

Then maybe you can find some kind of reading comprehension class at the local community college before you go mouthing off about the opinion of someone who has obviously gone out and got a job, serving our country. To suggest a veteran of the military is leaching off our country because he is using the substandard services of the VA is beyond the pale.


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