H.R.3200 - America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009

America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 view all titles (5)

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  • Official: America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 as introduced.
  • Official: To provide affordable, quality health care for all Americans and reduce the growth in health care spending, and for other purposes. as introduced.
  • Popular: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 as introduced.
  • Short: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 as introduced.
  • Short: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 as reported to house.

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uba 08/20/2009 6:27am
in reply to abaratar Aug 19, 2009 11:48pm

abarator, its me again – same screen name
yes, everyone can set up a living will just go to legalzoom.com and download the form. However, the living will aka advance directive about end of life decisions when the patient is mentally unable or in a coma, is not worth the paper it’s written on if you don’t involve your personal physician to see to it that your wishes are carried out. It is the fee that the doctor will charge that would be covered by insurance.
Living wills are not authorized in every state, for example not by Michigan law. There you will have to get a durable power of attorney; this has to be drawn up by an attorney – costs about $250.

oderintdummetuant 09/24/2009 2:34pm
in reply to pandawa Sep 24, 2009 12:12pm

Pandawa, your “logic” seems…well jacked up. Why aren’t you already contributing 1-2% of your paycheck to help your fellow countryman? Thats the difference between us and you. You keep waiting for something to make the world a better place, we are doing it now. Thats what makes us more of an American than you.

abaratar 08/14/2009 1:31pm
in reply to NakiaGladden Aug 13, 2009 11:29am

Just so everyone know Nakia is a paid political activist she is getting paid to do this.

Now on the 47 million uninsured, Nakia already know this. According the information gathered by the US Census a third of the uninsured make over $50,000 a year, 19% make over $75,000, a third of the uninsured qualify for medicaid but won’t take the time to sign up and 20% are illegal aliens. This bill does nothing to help illegal aliens yet Nakia still uses them in her number when talking about why we need this bill.

abaratar 08/06/2009 12:09pm
in reply to abaratar Aug 06, 2009 12:08pm

They argue that nationalized health care is the reason why babies have a better survival rate in these countries. However, Dr. Linda Halderman explained that according to the way statistics are calculated in Canada, Germany, Norway and Austria, a premature baby weighing less than 500g is not considered a living child. Dr. Halderman argues that when the main determinant of mortality, weight at birth, is factored in, these countries have no better survival rates than the United States.
http://www.americanissuesproject.org/blogs/columns/archive/2009/06/30/if-the-us-passes-obamacare-where-will-canada-send-their-preemies.aspx

abaratar 07/26/2009 1:35am

because if a veteran decides he does not want to participate in the VA hospital system he can seek his medical care somewhere else or choose not to have health care, in this proposed government health care system if someone refuses to pay into it they will go to jail.

TwoOldefarts 07/27/2009 10:42am

Wake up Americans. If this bill passes, “ALL” Sentors and Representatives who voted “YES” should be voted out of office when they come up for reelection no matter what party they represent.

myboysmom 09/18/2009 6:45am
in reply to Andrea1318 Jul 14, 2009 4:43pm

I agree! Quit rushing….it’s not usually a positive action that is being done when the people involved are rushing it through!

I hope congress gets a clue with how we are all voting and start over from scratch!

ecce_ego 10/16/2009 2:07am
in reply to kerenpickard Sep 22, 2009 11:39am

Exactly. Shows to go you how much better the government is than business, huh?

jontando 08/08/2009 10:40pm
in reply to jasonatemylipstick Aug 06, 2009 5:17pm

How’s your government provided health care from your Navy affiliation working out for you?

tkjjz 08/11/2009 10:45am
in reply to heathercritter Aug 10, 2009 5:29pm

Protesting a war, where lives are lost is so different from protesting health care….they are on such different levels. I do think that people were being called “un-american” because of the way they were acting. People can be upset, and not like the bill…but it was scary watching some town hall meetings and seeing the hate and anger. People can get a point across without shouting and screaming. No one will listen to anyone if they act that way. Also, I don’t think the president took 6 months to find a dog…it took the media to do all the research and discuss it for 6 months. One thing heathercritter…if I was so depressed and disgusted about it and thought it was not going to get better….why do you stay here? There is more good than evil…it is just that the good doesn’t make the news….

yoder 07/24/2009 4:44am

“So far, from reading the comments, most of us get it that the bill is a terrible idea.”

Don’t make the mistake of thinking this forum is a cross section of US citizens. Not by a long shot.

abaratar 08/12/2009 11:27am

Yoder, after you have had time go through my sources let me know if you do not agree that you are more likely to recover from cancer in the US then any other country. Also do the WHO rankings make since now?

I am not saying we do not need to make changes, based on the WHO rankings involving cost and administration we have a lot of work to do, my argument is with people saying that people in the US are receiving sub par health care when in reality, as I have posted facts to support, we have the best survival rates in the world when it come to making sick people better.

oderintdummetuant 09/14/2009 5:17pm
in reply to oderintdummetuant Sep 14, 2009 5:11pm

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
Thomas Jefferson
My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.
Thomas Jefferson
Never spend your money before you have earned it.
Thomas Jefferson
Nothing is unchangeable but the inherent and unalienable rights of man.
Thomas Jefferson
I believe the entire quote you partially cited earlier follows..
Leave all the afternoon for exercise and recreation, which are as necessary as reading. I will rather say more necessary because health is worth more than learning.
Thomas Jefferson
….seriously I can go all day

abaratar 07/15/2009 6:39am

?Individual responsibility. Except in cases of hardship, once market reforms and affordability credits are in effect, individuals will be responsible for obtaining and maintaining health insurance coverage. Those who choose to not obtain coverage will pay a penalty of 2.5 percent of modified adjusted gross income"

DO YOU GET IT, if you make $20,000 a year and can not afford health insurance you will be fined $5000 a year, if you can not come up with the $5000 you go to jail. This is criminal, this is no different then the furniture dealer in new york that say “use our company or we will burn down your building.”

2poohbears 07/23/2009 7:01pm
in reply to dcornwall Jul 23, 2009 6:50pm

It doesn’t need to SAY that it bans private insurance. Public health insurance is not “fair” competition for private options. Of course they aren’t going to come out and say “no more private insurance”…even more citizens would be outraged at this terrible bill. As it stands, they can pretend this isn’t about nationalizing our healthcare, when – in fact – that is exactly what this is about.

ntb7088 07/24/2009 7:38am

I have tried several times to add a comment, and keep getting directed to an email address. Here is my comment in a nutshell – I work in the insurance industry for a broker and I am tired of the way this government makes us out to be the bad guys. We are not. I am a middle class person just trying to make a living. This grab of power by our government will end my career and millions of people like me. Americans want reform, not a take over.

dcornwall 07/23/2009 6:46pm
in reply to abaratar Jul 15, 2009 6:19am

The penalty for not having health insurance is spelled out in ‘SEC. 59B. TAX ON INDIVIDUALS WITHOUT ACCEPTABLE HEALTH CARE COVERAGE. If you fail to get coverage, you will be taxed 2.5% of your modified adjusted gross income. No jail time. If your religion forbids conventional health care, you are exempt from the insurance requirement.

rjduf 07/20/2009 10:19pm
in reply to glr Jul 14, 2009 12:03pm

It’s funny you should say “We the people” don’t count any more. We have become more of a divided nation because of both parties. Democrats are trying to take charge regardless of what the majority of “the people” think about issues and bills. The Republicans have been silent and seeking on the most part-their own best interests and not listening to what “We the people” want. We lost our Democracy after Kennedy was assassinated. I think things should be more out in the open and not done in secrecy. I question anything done in haste and secrecy. Is this really best for “the people”

abaratar 09/23/2009 11:07am
in reply to bhumphreys52 Sep 18, 2009 11:38am

please explain how tripling the amount of his monthly premium will save him money in the long run?

scopemonkey 08/21/2009 11:38pm
in reply to jimprjayp Aug 18, 2009 1:08am

The government isn’t going to pay for your living will. The government is going to allow your doctor to be reimbursed for his/her time to discuss the issues about a living will, Do-not-Resuscitate orders/Life sustaining measures, etc. This a covered benefit under the plan, so if you want, you can set up a consultation with your doctor to discuss these issues. It is just like any other counseling visit—like diabetic education, etc only this pertains to end-of-life issues and patient desires. This is empowering patients, not making decisions for them.

escondido 08/31/2009 8:58am
in reply to Roxannestruppeck Aug 19, 2009 1:55pm

Why do you think it should be up to the government to do this for you? Take responsibility for yourself and make use of a multitude of readily available resources to create a living will.

abaratar 08/13/2009 12:05pm
in reply to BeeMac Aug 13, 2009 10:15am

A.you can keep your current plan for 5 years as long as you do not change jobs, your employer does not change providers, you don’t change your policie, you don’t add someone to your policy, and your insurance company does not change rates. If any changes or after 5 years you have o use a government approved plan based on the plans used in NY,NJ and Massachusetts.

B your employer will be required to either pay for your government approved insurance or pay an 8% or total payroll penalty tax, however if your employer does not provide your insurance you will be required by law to pay for an insurance policy out of pocket. Theses aproved plans which are modeled after the NJ, NY, and Massachusetts policys cost 2-3 times as much as existing insurance plans.

freeme 08/21/2009 5:55am
in reply to Sarazona1313 Aug 11, 2009 1:12pm

Sarazona – you sound like you are totally against the current system.

However the capitalist system is the main reason that we have all these diagnostic tests and new “live saving medicines”.

Sure, someone may have to pay $200 a month for some pills that KEEP THEM ALIVE, but those pills didn’t exist 10 years ago. However by the time their children need those pills the patent will have expired and the children will get them for the lowest possible cost.

See there is a way that all this works out pretty well and it doesn’t move the whole country toward bankruptcy.

Everyone just wants “free” stuff. They want every little band-aid to be free.

tromero 07/26/2009 2:23am

Why do we want to emulate a “proven-failed” system from Canada and the UK? … Do we really want to sacrifice “quality of medicine and access to excellent healthcare” for “quantity of participants”? Let’s not overlook the fact that many foreigners come to this great country everyday seeking a medical cure because our medical system is the best in the world!. Frankly, I don’t see or know of too many ill Americans that decide to travel to Canada, UK, China, India, Mexico, France, Russia, or any other country seeking better medical care than what we Americans are blessed with here in the US.

greg_rubino 07/29/2009 11:56am

Does anybody know who wrote HR 3200? I (think I) know that Jacob Hacker is among them, and I must say that he kind of scares me a little. I’m just curious because I want to know who’s actually running our country these days.

abaratar 08/28/2009 5:57pm
in reply to DKennedy Aug 28, 2009 7:37am

no the difference in the rates is the requirement for guaranteed issuance and community rate policies in the universal coverage states and in this bill.

The requirements are such that if you bought home insurance, under such an agreement, the insurance company would have to pay to rebuild your house even if you didn’t buy the insurance until a week after your house burnt down, please read the bill before wasting anyone else’s time with your uninformed rantings.

NQuestOfDionysus 07/21/2009 6:50am

Barack Obama, June 23, 2009, speaking on health care: “What I’ve said is, our top priority has to be to control costs.” http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/23/politics/main5107407.shtml

What I don’t understand is how anyone can be fool enough to believe that, once this bill is passed, the Government will suddenly find an incentive to make our individual health and welfare their top priority.

I do find it interesting that so many folks are surprised that the government is putting so many restrictions on our freedom of choice: how in the heck are they going to control us if we are wandering all over the Earth making our own choices?

bkrueg 09/12/2009 4:54am
in reply to JosephNobles Sep 11, 2009 6:22pm

Mr. Joseph Nobles,
Lets start with an article in the Wall Street Journal.
Is Government Health Care Constitutional?
The right to privacy conflicts with rationing and regulation
By DAVID B. RIVKIN JR. and LEE A. CASEY
Is a government-dominated health-care system unconstitutional? A strong case can be made for that proposition, based on the same “right to privacy” that underlies such landmark Supreme Court decisions as Roe v. Wade.

abaratar 08/19/2009 7:27pm
in reply to joeyjj Aug 19, 2009 11:44am

jeyie, the Colorado plans will be illegal if this bill passes, only MA,JY and NY type plans will be legal which means it will cost more money. People are pushing this bill saying it will save money. My question to you is, How does tripling the price of insurance save money?

glr 07/21/2009 5:39am
in reply to ggenovez Jul 21, 2009 4:58am

I agree, the reform should not be spending more money so that everyone has insurance but decreasing the inefficiencies so the costs come down and allow everyone to afford it.

It seems that their only solutions is more money (that we don’t have) and government run (which they have proved time an again that they can’t run something efficiently).


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