http://www.prisonplanet.com/call-for-immediate-arrest-of-5-supreme-court-justices-for-treason.html

Ask him how he would differentiate health care from Social Security and unemployment benefits which have already been upheld by the Supreme Court under the General Welfare provisions.

You don’t pay for her family’s healthcare. Unless they make less than 4 times the federal poverty level (4*14,570 for a family of 2), they cannot receive any subsidies.

Even if they only make 3 times the FPL ($43,710/year), the subsidy is only the average of the 3 cheapest basic plans in their area minus 10% of their annual income.

All right, since you are already spooked, check out this scenario:

(http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=8&threadID=185145&messageID=1897582)

BOX 12: Technology & Virus of Dannion Brinkley’s Prophecy (http://www.qsl.net/w5www/brinkley.html)

“There was an even more sinister side to this chip. A person’s lifetime could be limited by programming this chip to dissolve & kill him with the viral substance it was made from. Lifetimes were controlled like this to avoid the cost that growing old places on the government. It was also used as a means of eliminating people with chronic illnesses that put a drain on the medical system. People who refused to have chips implanted in their bodies roamed as outcasts. They could not be employed & were denied government services.”

President Obama, by the way, did not run for President on a platform that health-care reform contains a public option. He simply proposed that every American should have access to affordable health care, similar to the plan available to members of Congress.

3rd grade?

I really feel for you and your situation. You were not stupid to get sick. No one can help that. However, there are supplemental insurance plans that can always be bought ahead of time to cover those sorts of catastrophes. I have always carried AFLAC insurance whenever I can for just the reason you stated. The great thing about their coverage is that they pay you directly and very quickly in the case of an incident. Most employers offer AFLAC these days. Even if they don’t, they are not that expensive to buy on an individual basis. there have been times in my life where they were the only insurance I carried and I paid cash for the normal doctors visits. It was sooo much cheaper this way than getting the cheap health insurance (Florida has some great inexpensive plans).

does anyone here feel compassion towards your fellow citizens? why is it so repugnant to so many Americans to reach out to the poor, the homeless, the sick, the shafted of our country who have always gotten the short end of the stick? why is it so terrible that a woman should have the right to choose whether she feels ready to be a mother? why should the government have the power to deny her that choice? if passing this bill means that one person’s pains are relieved when in our current system they could not be, I support it and I am willing to pay for it.

That is a point. But, what about the REST of this monstrosity? Wouldn’t they do better just to pass a tiny bill that says that?

I’m all for passing one simple law at a time- not these huge rolled-up mostrosities with lots of bad thrown in the tiny bit of good.

> No, the insurance company makes money by keeping costs down.

One way to keep costs down is by denying expensive healthcare. It’s a great way to make money! Charge for a service you under provide!

The federal government should neither bail out banks nor meddle in the health care industry. Neither are permitted by the Constitution.

First of all, it’s HEALTH INSURANCE not Health Care that is being regulated here.

Second of all… Unemployment benefits are paid into by the worker and not everyone is entitled to them. Unemployment bennies do not carry along a hefty fine for those who do not have them.

Thirdly… Social Security is a tax that (theoretically) goes into a pool where, when I am 60 or 65 I get to cash out on.

Both of these areas are enforced by taxation and are not (too terribly) intrusive. Mandatory Health Insurance IS intrusive and carries a hefty fine with it. It does not fall under the general welfare clause because it adds another level of intrusion into the lives of US Citizens.

I have faith that, if passed, this bill will be found to be unconstitutional.

If this bill passes it will be because the will of the people have not been served and all you dems are voting the party line and not your conscience …. wake up and vote your heart! Ask your self is this being passed because it is what the party wants or is is because this is what is good for ALLLLLLL AMERICANS. I am one of those without healthcare and I can tell you this bill will not be in my best interest. I am an educated American that wants to have affordable health care not Government run health care (Health Insurance)you act like we are stupid!!!!!!!!

“Laws should be in place to prevent automatic citizenship to the children of foreigners that don’t have legal residency”

Well, that’d require a constitutional amendment, so have fun with that.

However, this bill aims to give coverage to low wage earners so they can go to a normal doctor instead of the much much more expensive ER.

If the hospital holds the birth certificate for someone that can’t pay, then what happens to the child?

The following Bills, introduced by Dr. Ron Paul is what we should be considering for real health care reform.

We won’t be forced into a health care program w/ these bills, but patients, doctors & hospitals are given real options like a health saving account, flexible savings account and tax credits that are fully refundable.

Allows patients and physicians to opt-out of any government-mandated or -funded system of electronic health care records.

Addresses rising medical malpractice costs. Also requires the FTC to actually prove health care claims are false before preventing those claims from being made, and ends the FDA’s attempts to censure truthful health claims.

H.R. 1495, the Comprehensive Health Care Reform Act of 2009,
H.R. 1498, the Freedom from Unnecessary Litigation Act of 2009,
H.R. 2630, the Protect Patients and Physicians Privacy Act,
H.R. 2629, the Coercion is Not Health Care Act,
H.R. 3394, the Freedom of Health Speech Act,
H.R. 3395, the Health Freedom Act,

I do not trust that our court system would throw it out. We now have at least one supreme court justice that believes the courts’ job is to create law from the bench not interpret the law. The checks and balances created by the constitution have been so eroded by politicians playing outside the rules that I believe the only solution is to hit the big reset button.

The point of what I’m saying is that Government Bureaucracy always gets in the way of the welfare of the citizen. Your Government liaison isn’t working their job because they care about taking care of the less fortunate, they are there picking up a pay check and they don’t care about helping anyone get everything that they should.

So, whether or not someone has a job is a completely ignorant means by which to get your point across.

You are exactly right! On election 2010 lets vote against all of the encumbents, no matter what party they are in. Our representatives and senators have been sitting in Washington for too long cozying up to the lobbyists and allowing the perception of absolute power to corrupt them.

CLEAN OUT CONGRESS 2010!!!

They need to be very specific and verbose so they can avoid as many loopholes as possible. There is nothing that some people like to do more than find loopholes they can exploit to avoid the spirit and responsibility of the law.

I just joined and am not going to read through all of the pages of comments. What’s the point? All I know is there are those of us who are disabled to the point we aren’t able to work and very probably never be able to work, yet the Government wishes us to pay for Medicaid to the tune of $800.00 a month, which is almost half of our income. We therefore are unable to have health insurance. What I see now is the answer to health care is to make it a law that we buy health insurance to solve the problem. Great plan. I also see this country seems to be made up of many who pretty much feel folks such as myself are a burden on society. Thx for that. Maybe I should have a let a Viet Namese shoot me in the head while I was over there fighting for your right to consider me a burden on society. Simply put, our elected officials are only doing what their constituents are doing, looking out for themselves first and to hell with everyone else. It’s so nice to live in a civilized world.

See? He just believes any outrageous thing. Then he reposts it here.

The Declaration of Independence is not a legal document in this country. It is just that, a declaration of our independence. It holds no legal precedent and therefore no legal standing.

Might I also add, that no where in the Constitution does it grant the right of the government to empower it’s self. This is not how the founders of this country intended our country to be.

I would also like to highlight a simple phrase “pursuit of happiness”. Do you wonder why the Declaration of Independence doesnt say “guaranteed happiness”? Simply put, the Government cannot in any sense guarantee your happiness. Simply affording you the constitutionally guaranteed rights is the only thing that the government can do to enable your pursuit of happiness. No person or entity can guarantee happiness.

581 in favor / 2217 opposed so far on this site. There was 75 people or so that worked in our facility before they deployed to Iraq and I knew of just 4 that supports this bill. Just Four.. And of all my friends that never had anything to do with the military, some of them have college degrees, run there own buisness, some just regular blue collar working folks. Not one of them wanted this bill to pass. Not one.. Just another burden placed on our nation by members of both parties that never listen to the citizens of this land..

To the Democrats & Republicans in Congress who don’t quite get it: I want to offer a personal pledge. I and a lot of other people have every intention of removing you from Congress in the next election if you stand in the way of health care legislation that the majority of the American people want but without any type of public option attached. That is not a hollow or idle threat. We will come to your district and we will work against you, first in the primary and, if we have to, in the general election. We do not want the “Public Option (single payer of any kind)”…..period! Rest assured, we are all watching how you vote now and in the future.

Logical deduction will lead you to that conclusion.

The bill stipulates that the fine for no insurance coverage is levied by the Internal Revenue Service. If you fail to pay the fine to the Internal Revenue Service, you could face jail time. THAT is logical deduction.

Question: Where does Congress get the authority to create a public option?

Answer: They do not have that power. A public option is unconstitutional and beyond their regulatory powers.

They can do it with all other types of insurance. Auto, life, property, etc… there is no sensible reason why health insurance can’t go across state lines as well.

Because of the ablity to cross state lines with my auto insurance, and property insurance I get exellent rates and can pick and choose which company I feel will treat me best. With health insurance the way it is I get BCBS, if I don’t like it tough crap I’m stuck. And with no competition they can pretty much charge whatever they want.

The “difficulty and clerical effort” would be the same as with any other insurance company.

The Democrat health care bill is strictly a huge power grab period.

Bleh. Let them buy their own damn nitroglycerin tablets. I didn’t force them to eat like a pig for 40 years and smoke.

The car insurance remarks are insulting to our intellegence. NOT THE SAME THING! Also, Jail time as a consequence for not buying the insurance is absolutely ABSURD! Did anyone else hear OBAMA side-step that question on consequenses for not buying OBAMA-CARE?

The arrogance in Washington is just unbelieveable! There is not one word directed to one of the main causes of Healthcare abuse…hence payback to the trail lawyers for getting this bafoon in office. Does healthcare need fixing, hell yes. Rushing the 1,990 pages of a language no one but the trail lawyers understands, trying to vote on it quickly should be raising some really red flags for all of us. I personally feel like Congress is acting like a shady car salesman and selling us a bunch of garbage desguised in a pretty little red bow…you know, like the stimulus was shoved down our throats…transparency my rear end! Stop lying to the American People. We are your bosses! Slow it down, ask the people who work in the system that aren’t bad lawyers for advice and let’s put forth a piece of legislation that will make sense and not take from our Senior Citizens who worked their entire lives for what the thugs in Washington are trying to steal from them.