H.R.3962 - Affordable Health Care for America Act

To provide affordable, quality health care for all Americans and reduce the growth in health care spending, and for other purposes. view all titles (10)

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  • Official: To provide affordable, quality health care for all Americans and reduce the growth in health care spending, and for other purposes. as introduced.
  • Popular: Affordable Health Care for America Act as introduced.
  • Short: Affordable Health Care for America Act as introduced.
  • Short: Indian Health Care Improvement Act Amendments of 2009 as introduced.
  • Short: Affordable Health Care for America Act as passed house.
  • Short: Indian Health Care Improvement Act Amendments of 2009 as passed house.
  • Official: An act to provide a physician payment update, to provide pension funding relief, and for other purposes. as amended by senate.
  • Short: Preservation of Access to Care for Medicare Beneficiaries and Pension Relief Act of 2010 as passed senate.
  • Short: Preservation of Access to Care for Medicare Beneficiaries and Pension Relief Act of 2010 as passed house.
  • Short: Preservation of Access to Care for Medicare Beneficiaries and Pension Relief Act of 2010 as enacted.

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bkrueg 11/13/2009 4:34pm
in reply to LucasFoxx Nov 13, 2009 3:10pm

ROFL-I knew I could count on you LIBERALS lucasfoxx. You liberals are so full of hate and venom you couldn’t resist. Just say the name Sarah Palin and you all crap your pants trying to belittle and besmirch her. Attack the messenger and not the message. Sarah Palin Sarah Palin Sarah Palin Sarah Palin Sarah Palin Sarah Palin lol She hasn’t said anything that hasn’t been written in this thread before yet you call her a whore for saying it. SHAME ON YOU. JUST-SAY-NO TO OBAMA/PALOSI CARE.

LucasFoxx 11/13/2009 3:10pm
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in reply to bkrueg Nov 13, 2009 7:05am

Part-term Alaska governor and professional spokes model, Sarah Palin, prostituting for the insurance industry, recited, “there are other ways to reform health care without violating our Constitution and our personal liberties,” just like it says in the BCBS pamphlet she was given to memorize.

“market-driven” –Check
“patient-centered” –Check
“result-driven solutions” –Check
“insurance across state lines” –Check
“GOVERNMENT waste and fraud” –Check
“tort reform” –Check
“dead on arrival” – Extra Bonus Credit
“Big Government” –Check

Pay her and move on.

bhumphreys52 11/13/2009 12:59pm
in reply to bkrueg Nov 13, 2009 7:05am

Obama is proposing one government health insurance plan for those under 65 to go along with the private ones. Medicare is actually single-payer, government-run health insurance for people over 65. According to the Harris poll it is tied for third place in popularity of government programs:
The National Park Service: 85%
Crime-fighting and prevention services: 77%
Medicare: 76%
Social Security: 76%
I think market driven works if you have real competition, but I neither trust nor want my health care in the hands of big insurance companies or large health conglomerates. Many of these same ideas have been part of the discussion since 1948. Obama endorsed the same tort reform presented by the Bush Administration and was rebuked by the minority, Bush’s own party. Careful don’t step on State’s rights when you talk about going across State Lines. Some of these ideas should be included in the bill as long as a government plan is also part of the equation.

bkrueg 11/13/2009 11:47am
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in reply to bkrueg Nov 13, 2009 11:42am

There were only 155,000,000 tax returns filed in 2008 so $400 billion divided by 155 million is $2,580,646,698.00 per tax return if you think that’s better.

bkrueg 11/13/2009 11:42am
in reply to Ebin Nov 13, 2009 10:27am

Hi Ebin, $400 billion is $400,000 million divided by 305 million is $1,311,476.00. You missed a few zeros. There were only 138,893,908 tax returns filed in 2007 so $400 billion divided by 139 million is $2,877,698.00 per tax return.

Ebin 11/13/2009 10:27am
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in reply to bkrueg Oct 30, 2009 7:06am

There are 305 million people in the U.S. divided by $400 billion/year that means every American would have to pay approx $1,311 a year. Good thing they made it clear and easy to comprehend that it is fairly cheap, otherwise it may have been propaganda.

bkrueg 11/13/2009 7:05am

The former Alaska governor, Sarah Palin, insisted that “there are other ways to reform health care without violating our Constitution and our personal liberties.”
“Let’s get back to discussing market-driven, patient-centered, result-driven solutions, like, for example, allowing people to purchase insurance across state lines, tackling existing government waste and fraud, and reforming medical malpractice laws (tort reform) to stop unwarranted lawsuits that force doctors to order unnecessary procedures just to cover themselves,” she wrote.
“Please let your senators know that the Pelosi bill should be dead on arrival,” she continued. “Once we go down this Big Government path, it will be virtually impossible to reverse course. Let’s fight for the reform that makes sense for Americans before it’s too late.”
I agree with these words of the former governor and vice presidential candidate, how about you liberals?

justamick 11/13/2009 6:42am
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bkrueg 11/13/2009 5:22am
in reply to justamick Nov 13, 2009 3:20am

It was a 20+ point swing from a year ago in both States away from Obama on Nov.3rd. The exit polls are showing the voters are blaming Obama for the economy and the $12 trillion dollar deficit. Like President Clinton said, “It’s the economy stupid.” The national polls show Obama ratings falling after HR -3962 was forced down our throats in the House.

bkrueg 11/13/2009 4:59am
in reply to justamick Nov 13, 2009 3:08am

Thank you for you comments. My point is that the government got in the way with their regulations again. The procedure to make the vaccines they ordered is antiquated and the government regulations would not allow using the existing faster methods. Obama’s administration is at fault here. It is my understanding the regulations have recently changed to expedite the production but to late for the thousands who have died and the millions who have gotten the swine flu. When Obama promised the vaccines and didn’t deliver on his promise while his administration got in the way of production, well you can call it what you want. He lied.

justamick 11/13/2009 3:20am
in reply to bkrueg Nov 12, 2009 5:53am

I’m gonna have to take the side of the Devil’s advocate on this one…

Democrats have lost seats in New Jersy and Virginia. It does not necessarily point to a loss in public faith in the Democrats… I think you wont be able to make that kind of ascertation until the off year elections next year. When polls come out showing the standings of the different candidates, then you can make those kinds of predictions and assumptions. It is just too early to tell otherwise.

justamick 11/13/2009 3:15am
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in reply to nmeagent Nov 12, 2009 2:39pm

Unless… John Belushi never died and you’re him and I’m ACTUALLY talking to you!!!

justamick 11/13/2009 3:08am
in reply to bkrueg Nov 12, 2009 11:36am

That’s not technically Obama’s fault. If you check the facts, the Federal Government bought 120 million Swine Flu vaccinations. What happend was that the vaccinations that were supposed to be available hit a snag in being made available. That’s a manufacturing error. Not an Obama lie. (although I do believe he does lie and mislead alot.)


I think this article says it all.

LucasFoxx 11/12/2009 9:36pm
in reply to Ak_Midnightsun Nov 12, 2009 7:44pm

The same issue is in H.R.3395: “The Federal Government may not take any action to prevent use of a claim describing any nutrient in a food or dietary supplement,” until completely adjudicated. We have enough holes in our false advertising laws as it is. Wouldn’t this just add more loopholes for an industry that already profits from selling amphetamines to teenagers disguised as nutritional supplements?

*Great avatar.

LucasFoxx 11/12/2009 9:35pm
in reply to Ak_Midnightsun Nov 12, 2009 7:44pm

The burden of proof is worrisome in H.R.3394:
“The Commission shall not commence any investigation of an advertiser of a dietary supplement or a dietary ingredient to determine whether the advertiser has disseminated a false advertisement unless it possesses before the commencement of such investigation clear and convincing evidence that the advertisement is false and misleading.” Isn’t the purpose of investigation by definition the search for clear and convincing evidence?

LucasFoxx 11/12/2009 9:33pm
in reply to Ak_Midnightsun Nov 12, 2009 7:44pm

H.R.2630- Repeal of standard unique health identifiers is not unreasonable. No problem with the informed consent. Seems to have a large hole in it. How can the life saving information in sec. 4 (b) be used in paragraph 2 to save your live if you are not in the system? Or if there is no system in rural areas?

H.R.2629 –Is just to prevent Federally mandated insurance. A lot of people here should like that.

LucasFoxx 11/12/2009 9:32pm
in reply to Ak_Midnightsun Nov 12, 2009 7:44pm

H. R. 1498- Seems to make changes to the tax code so that gross income is readjusted to exclude court awarded damages paid out by the taxpayer/unsuccessful-defendant, and tax credits are to be given to cover Malpractice Insurance. In other words, the government would be required to compensate bad doctors? Tort reform is one thing, but isn’t this akin to rewarding the Ken Lays of the medical professions?

LucasFoxx 11/12/2009 9:30pm
in reply to Ak_Midnightsun Nov 12, 2009 7:44pm

H.R. 1495 is interesting. Isn’t this government provided health care since you can deduct it from your taxes? Doesn’t that mean the people on this site would be paying for your health care? Tax credit for Health Savings programs would be good, though the limits to carry overs with Flexible Spending Arrangements needs to go away or be changed. The repeal of the 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income threshold on deductions for medical expenses would certainly cut down our personal costs, but it would also strip away the budgetary benefits of the other side of the equation.

Ak_Midnightsun 11/12/2009 7:44pm

The following Bills, introduced by Dr. Ron Paul is what we should be considering for real health care reform.

We won’t be forced into a health care program w/ these bills, but patients, doctors & hospitals are given real options like a health saving account, flexible savings account and tax credits that are fully refundable.

Allows patients and physicians to opt-out of any government-mandated or -funded system of electronic health care records.

Addresses rising medical malpractice costs. Also requires the FTC to actually prove health care claims are false before preventing those claims from being made, and ends the FDA’s attempts to censure truthful health claims.

H.R. 1495, the Comprehensive Health Care Reform Act of 2009,
H.R. 1498, the Freedom from Unnecessary Litigation Act of 2009,
H.R. 2630, the Protect Patients and Physicians Privacy Act,
H.R. 2629, the Coercion is Not Health Care Act,
H.R. 3394, the Freedom of Health Speech Act,
H.R. 3395, the Health Freedom Act,

LucasFoxx 11/12/2009 5:52pm
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Interesting who the anti-establishment types are. In the 60’s it was the poor, and the stereotypical left-wing free love hippies, now it’s privileged right-wing elitists. Even during the Bush years, the opposition was not to the institution of government, but to the administration of the government. Now the opposition to administration seems to be advocating social and economic anarchy based on extreme parsing of the constitution, short-term memory loss, and, in some cases, latent racism.

LucasFoxx 11/12/2009 5:28pm
in reply to bkrueg Nov 12, 2009 5:53am

…instituted a policy (by Executive Order) whereby every appointee in every Executive branch agency has to sign and Ethics contract banning Lobbyist gifts and barring them from coming from, leaving to, and contracting with Lobbies for 2 years; has begun dismantaling the detention center at Guantánamo Bay Naval Base; has begun posting all White House visitor records on line; his international diplomacy has mended strained relationships with our allies, cornered our enemies, has heads of state around the world talking about a new era of multilateralism, which has resulted in the exposure of a secret Iranian nuclear facility and a Nobel Prize; all while improving his golf, bowling, and basketball games, and opening the White House itself to American families and children at an unprecedented pace. What did your favorite President accomplish in his first 3 quarters?

LucasFoxx 11/12/2009 5:28pm
in reply to bkrueg Nov 12, 2009 5:53am

Equal pay regardless of their gender, race, or age(S.181); American Recovery and Reinvestment Act; expanded National and Community Service H.R. 1388; improved enforcement of securities and commodities fraud and financial institution fraud S.386; reduce no-bid defense contracts and improved the organization and procedures of the Department of Defense for the acquisition of major weapon systems S.454; Credit CARD Act of 2009 H.R.627; Cash for Clunkers; Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act of 2009; repealed previous Executive Orders in removing Barriers to Responsible Scientific Research Involving Human Stem Cells, disallowing unrelated add-ons in government procurement, revoking Executive Orders concerning detention or the interrogation that undermined the laws of the United States and the Geneva Conventions;…

LucasFoxx 11/12/2009 4:02pm
in reply to 4lessgovernment Nov 12, 2009 2:56am

That’s going to be a shock to most of the people here; who think it does “fund our health care 100% all inclusive.” They are, of course, wrong.

nmeagent 11/12/2009 2:39pm
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in reply to justamick Nov 12, 2009 3:41am

Ah, what a relief…

nmeagent 11/12/2009 2:33pm
in reply to bhumphreys52 Nov 12, 2009 12:21pm

100+ million Americans would be those who take this seriously. It is not an exact number, of course, but it is at least the same order of magnitude.

All government action implicitly threatens force. Say I refuse to buy health insurance. In this case, there will probably be some sort of extra tax or fine. If I refuse to pay this penalty or compensate for garnishment of wages by refusing to pay an equivalent amount elsewhere, I will be arrested and charged with tax evasion. If I resist arrest, I will likely be shot to death by Officer Friendly. If despite my resistance I am captured anyway and put in prison and I then try to escape, I am shot and killed by Corrections Officer Not-So-Friendly. Pretty much every method of direct resistance leads directly to some form of violence on the part of government. This is why we limit their power!

bhumphreys52 11/12/2009 1:30pm
in reply to justamick Nov 12, 2009 3:11am

The 12 trillion dollar deficiet is due to greed on the market and war not Government programs. Medicare/Medicade and Social Security help those in the middle class that work hard all their lifes for a small wage. The deficit stops climbing when we grow the middle class of our Country. Without controling the high cost of health care you cannot grow the middle class. By supporting this segment of our Country we create oportunities and are more productive. If you burden these people with high health care costs and subject them to those on wall street for their security in old age then you suppress growth. If you don’t think beyond your own pocket book we will not be able to return to the 0 deficit of the 1990s when Clinton left office

bkrueg 11/12/2009 1:19pm

Nov 12, 4:31 PM WASHINGTON (AP) – Swine flu has sickened about 22 million Americans since April and killed nearly 4,000, including 540 children, say startling federal estimates released Thursday.
Not quite 42 million swine flu doses are currently available
CDC-Thursday’s report attempts to calculate the first six months of the new H1N1 strain’s spread, from April through mid-October. The CDC said:
_Some 98,000 people have been hospitalized from this new flu or its complications, including 36,000 children, 53,000 adults younger than 65 and 9,000 older adults.
_ _Some 8 million children have become ill, 12 million adults younger than 65 and 2 million older adults.
The estimate of child deaths may seem especially surprising, considering the CDC’s conservative count of lab-confirmed deaths a week ago was 129. JUST-SAY-NO TO OBAMA/PELOSI CARE HR-3962

bhumphreys52 11/12/2009 1:15pm
in reply to justamick Nov 12, 2009 3:10am

Just look at places where a public option has been implemented and it is obvious that costs for care is less. You do realize that you as a taxpayer already pay the highest rates in the world for your health care that is ranked 37th in the world for overall care. We have the best facilities and we pay the most we should be number one in over all care. We are not number one, why? Even Canada with all their problems pay less and have better overall care. Fear of a public option because of higher cost is nothing more than ignorance of the US Health Care system

bhumphreys52 11/12/2009 1:03pm
in reply to justamick Nov 12, 2009 2:42am

1. I recommend a book “In the FED We Trust” by David Wessel to help explain why the spending bill was required. To be fair he was presented with extraordinary situations that required extraordinary measures. I also did not like everything that was done under that bill, but I know why it was needed.
2. Last I heard the emphasis is on Afghanistan and we have a plan to exit Iraq. I would hope that unlike his predecessor he will be measured in his approach and seek advice from many before he commits to a strategy in Afghanistan. The reason for the delay according to the news today is that he has asked those involved to develop an entire plan that includes an end game.
3. A technical error, I am not saying Obama is a saint, but you are stretching. Maybe you could use this website to find truth and lies http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/
All Politicians make statements, promises and pledges and some they keep and some change due to circumstances.

bhumphreys52 11/12/2009 12:28pm
in reply to justamick Nov 12, 2009 2:36am

This argument is a nothing but smoke and mirrors. If you choose to steal then Jail is an option. In this case a highly unlikely option. But if you feel that Jail should not be a punishment then what else would incentivize you paying your share of the bill?

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