The Republicans are not letting the vote happen untill 30 hours have passed since the cloture vote. I do not completely understand the process but there are up to 30 hours to revote on a bill. It’s all crap! The Democrats are giving the Repugs hell.

Does anyone understand what it is they are actually voting on now (cspan2) the vote is about our HR 4213 bill, but it says this on the bottom of the screen..

“THIS IS A VOTE ON WHETHER TO ALLOW A REPUBLICAN AMENDEMENT AT THIS LEGISLATIVE STAGE. AND THEN IT SAYS 67 VOTES ARE NEEDED FOR THIS MOTION TO PASS”

Congratulations,
As a 99er I am happy to see that you all got the much deserved relief coming. Keep in mind this economy will not be fixed in another 99 weeks.
What I would like to know is when they quit talking about a Tier V? I guess, waiting for another round of foreclosures? I have never seen so much BS in my 50 yrs. Our Jobs and the US money in China. I think we better take a language class. I have made myself a promise I will at least survive until November and will be voting.

Im in NC and i really dont know what or if i will get some more unemployment. Truthfully, DOES anyone know when we will see the money? 2 weeks 3 weeks? how long will it take to reach the people?

Finally, someone speaking about what I have been saying for years. No one truly represents my beliefs because they have to try and figure out what is in the middle of all the people they represent and then they have to vote with the side of the money they get from backers. Talk about outsourcing jobs. Think of the money this government could save in salaries alone! I had enough long ago with politicians saying they would do such if voted for, and turn around and do no such thing. Webster’s dictionary should change the definition of politics to bullshitting.

you know, prior to all this i was very much an independent. now i just don’t know…..these republicans are like spoiled children in a grocery store. i’m amazed i haven’t turned on c-span to see them rolling around on the floor, kicking, screaming, holding their breath until they turn blue in the face because they can’t have something they asked for. what will they possibly gain by stalling the vote until 9:00 pm this evening? it’s not going to get them anything. it’s only going to hurt the people who need this aid who aren’t caught up in the power struggle.

what’s worse is what i feel will happen next. no matter what happens in november, the democrats will still hold enough seats to do exactly what the republicans are doing right now. translation. nothing gets done. at a time when we need the house and congress to move and make decisions there will be another clot in the system. i’m beyond frustrated with my government….and ashamed.

It was #4213 that got voted yesturday sehall57.. It reinstates all FOUR tiers. Puts everything back just as it was before, just extends the deadlines through Nov 30th 2010..

Not sure where you got that information your talking about. Its on your states unemployment website or something?

“What happened to the American innovative spirit?” Well I tell ya- "they squashed it right out of the common man- shipped it over seas- promised plenty and then forclosed on it. I do agree that the Govt should have been there to protect “The People” from those crooked, lying, bastards at GM and Goldman-Sachs but they (Bush and friends) were to busy making money from crushed innovative American Spirit. No one was watching and no one could touch them- thank God that will be different now. If they hadn’t given my job away with trade agreements, I could feed, clothe and feed myself. But maybe your right, the 60 hours I worked for 40 hours pay was me sitting on my ass- right before my dealership hit the GM hit list and closed, when you ask did that happen….right after GM got my tax dollar bailout. The rich intend to stay that way at the expense of people like us. We are but pawns to the 60 naye sayers- afterall,I am not nearly as important as a wallstreet bank. I’m just some American

I live in Florida and My benifits ran out Juen 5th (this was for tier 1) I was able to clam the two weeks after the week of June 5th even though it had run out, but since then I have not been able to claim, but it seems like everyone here is saying i should still be claiming every week even though my claim was up? but the damn system at Fluid.com (the unemployment site for FLorida) dosent let me claim them.. It says no weeks available to claim when I try..

hmmmmmm.. any thoughts?

And maybe I didn’t make myself clear. The above programs were once thought of as being Socialist and a waste of the taxpayers money. Government was getting too big and was not in the business of giving handouts. I guess I just dated myself :)

Which bill got passed in the Senate yesterday (7/20/10) #4213 or #5618. It makes a difference because of the actual language of each of those bills. My EDD website is stating in a press release there will be no FED-ED extensions and there will be only benefits through tier 2.

I’m sorry if I misunderstood you. Saying “Not the way he is miss-using our money and putting policies in place that are SOCIALIST in effect.” I just assumed that you thought social benefits that the government has provided us, ie. Medicare, Medicaid. Aid to Dependant Families and all other programs like it were socialist. You are entitled to your opinion. I would just like people to give the man a chance. 18 months is not enough time to undo almost a decade of spending. In 50 years the 100,000 thousand dollars the Reps say our children will owe won’t be worth 100,000 thanks to inflation. Let’s agree to disagree. Good luck to you and God Bless.

What happened to the American innovative spirit? A Government should be the hand that protects not the hand that feeds.

What really hurts is that I just ran out of my unemployment benefits 2 weeks ago, I been applying to anything and only received one call. Now because I got laid off December 23rd of 2009 I don’t qualify for any extensions , is that correct? or will this bill help us in New york state that applied for Unemployment benefits after November 23rd 2009 as well?

If the Dems push now before the break- there may be enough time to get this stuff to pass. I still need CObra, a reduced rate would be great- we need all the items that were in the original bill. The Repub’s are liars, budget, deficit, my ass. There is still unused bailout money that was never used. Where are their great ideas? Yeah for senator Grayson- there is a man with pair to say it like it is. It’s not over, unless a miracle happens we’ll be here begging for more scraps again in November!!! Don’t stop emailing now!!!

Well another sleepless night, but I did learn a few things thanks to Rachel Maddow and the Ed Show- I highly recommend searching their websites for 7/20/2010 and watch both!!!! Although we did get the final needed vote from the newly elected Goodwin, he is only acting as a temporary member until a November election can take place. The Dems finally have enough power to do great things with a short time to do it. There were still 60 nayes and Ben Nelson (D) who voted to let Americans starve, and lets not forget the 99’ers. Are the Dems after months and months of filibuster ready to fight, I mean roll up sleeves and fight for more? If the house is already expecting to pass another extension in Nov because they know it’s not enough why the lack of heart to begin with Trust me people- the REPUBS aren’t gonna grow new hearts in that time. The Dems’ need to be flooded with emails to keep pushing for all they can get- jobs, cobra, all the other items the Repubs made dems cut out.

lord: I also have speaker and have gone that route numerious times on mistakes they have made payment wise but dealt that road for over 2 months straight before they developed ’the master list" when we had to call in every single monday morning to make an internal data correction in order to get paid, that was not fun, but was the past and this is the present/future.

well, perhaps I’ll call that rep. again or this sunday maybe just try to file over the phone. Im more concerned about if will lose the FAC when start next tier up and/or if this new provision on the part-time work and remaining on EUC will allow states to revert claimants back onto parent (original) claims that were higher dollar amounts of $100.00 or more per week. This would be reals shame if it only affected new claimants but I suspect Ohio will not catch this or make the change unless claimants inform them.

When I called Monday to check on it, I sat on hold for around 45 minutes. I’ve got a phone with speakerphone built in, so I just did that and went about submitting resume’s and such while waiting.

My benefits ran out in the beginning of June and the rep had to do something in their system, but since then, I’ve used the auto phone system since to file my weeks.

Sure, your idea of a direct democracy would be doable, but also could be easy to manipulated by anyone taking the time to do so. The biggest problem with it is that the majority of the public do not want to spend the time to view and determine where they stand on an issue. They want to pick someone that represents them as closely as possible and then walk away. Back in 1776, the politicians weren’t “professional” politicians. They were farmers and business owners that knew what the people needed because it was their own needs too.

I think a way to work it could be done by us, If we could just find local people to put into the elections and then back that person, not matter what. If we could get at least 50% of the House and Senate filled with regular people, not groomed politicians, then we’ve got true representation. Limit how long they can keep office to make sure that our representatives don’t get too comfortable in “business as usual” and we’d see real change.

Does anyone know if the Part-time employment exclusion/provision that allows claimants to remain on EUC rather than begin a new state claim that would decrease their payments by $100.00 or more is a NEW PROVISION that is in this new bill for first time?? Just curious cuz its’ the first Ive seen it where every state would have it, heard of some states here and there that have their own laws where claimant must earn 5-6 times more before taking smaller amount claim, but this is provision directly in the Baucus-Reid Bill which is one on the table as we speak.

And, as we all know its hard enough to get through to speak to live person, heck I even have a new 5 digit extension for current processing center dealing with and it was very hard to get in touch with her as I just kept calling about 5 times on Monday until finally got her late afternoon, figured leaving my name/soc. on her machine was useuless since they get TONS of calls per day. Guess the influx of incoming calls is going to be a problem regardless and likely in several other states also, oh well. I just refuse to wait on the line for 30 mint’s or longer like in the past, or 6 months ago.

Lordgotmilk: this is really bizarre in a way, because I have seen several posters from our state, OHio on other forum boards state (which was the case for me also last week with the rep. I spoke to) that once exhaust current tier that claimants have to call in and speak to live person because neither online version nor the automated phone system will allow us to file over phone. This is really ridiculous that they STILL CANNOT get on the same page with one another on the simplest of matters let along all the other misinformation they provide it seems, they’ve had tons of time now to get their acts together.

The time it took to get this bill passed by the so called ruling elite makes me wonder why in the technology age we cannot make a major change to the constitution and get rid of the representatives ability to vote. It would be so simple to have the first direct democracy since ancient times. Each person could get a voting device and then each week you would have that week to vote yes or no. Simple majority would win. Talk about putting the power back in the hands of the people again literally! I mean are we really expected to believer that so called “Professional” politicians are needed to “represent” our votes? These people do not Represent us. They rule us and keep us happy enough to not gather out pitch forks and knock down the castle doors while keeping us poor enough to keep them in the castles! Of course in order to amend the Constitution “they” would have to call a convention and vote themselves out of a job! Not going to happen. I wish we could do that though!

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How did you get that out of what I said. I said policies He is putting in place now. I am older and want you to have the same benefits as I do. The way he is wasting our borrowed money is scary.I lived through the depression as a child and a penny for candy was a big reward.
I planned to work a few more years but now feel the jobs should go to you younger people. Don’t tell me what I think.

In Indiana, you were not given the option to file weekly..once your benefits ran out, all you could do was keep a record of your job searches…I even went to the Work One office and they said to just keep the record in case it does pass and then I will have to play ‘catch up’ if and when it does…so whenever they get their databases updated (originally said to take 2 days, now saying up to 2 weeks)everyone will be filing up 8 weeks worth of claims…

Ohio has been denying people via phone and Internet for months now. Some reps tell you can file some let you file it is rediculus ALL Unemployed should be able to file. This why we have not had true numbers of unemployed in this country. Also the Republicans stripped this Bill totally by removing what was needed TIER 5 for ALL UNEMPLOYED. They also stripped $25 extra and other you can read. NOW millions more than the few will not get any lifeline if passsed after debates. ALL Unemployed will be doomed in a few weeks because there are more who exhausted than new based on the recent polls and the numbers will be great in a few weeks. So we must stay on REID and the democratics to Help ALL Unemployed because we ALL will need it very soon from now and this is a fact!

I’m in Ohio. When I ran out of tier 1, I called my processing center, Youngstown and she told me that I needed to use the automated phone filing system to file each week. She told me that if I didn’t file, that if/when the extensions passed, I would not be eligible to receive retroactive payments for the weeks I hadn’t filed.

I’ve been filing that way since and called yesterday to make sure all of my ducks were in a row and the woman I talked to told me that she could see I’d been filing and that I’d done right, because those who haven’t filed weekly may have a hard time and delay in getting retro payments. She said those that have been filing, like me, will get processed as quickly as the system will allow once they are given the go ahead to pay.

If you’re in Ohio and haven’t been filing, I’d contact your processing center and find out if what you can do to get ahead of this in the next day or two.

We have all taken the time to take a stand here and email and call the **it out of every Rep there is – I would strongly suggest we email Susan Collins of Maine and also Olympia Snow of Maine for doing the right thing. Thanks should also be extended to Munchin for putting Goodwin in Byrd’s seat- they did the right thing. On the other hand- you’ve got some briarwood named Mitch McConnell of KY who is as stubborn and a government mule and his buddy Bunning who deserve a hearty- kiss my unemployed ass- oh yeah you too Mr Ben Nelson of NE (D) thanks for the hold out?- what did you gain. Go to the very top of this screen and hit votes on this issue and send the appropriate thank you’s and the appropriate f u’s.