U.S. Congress - H.R.4321 Comprehensive Immigration Reform for America's Security and Prosperity Act of 2009
H.R.4321 - Comprehensive Immigration Reform for America's Security and Prosperity Act of 2009
To provide for comprehensive immigration reform, and for other purposes. view all titles (8)
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- Official: To provide for comprehensive immigration reform, and for other purposes. as introduced.
- Popular: Comprehensive Immigration Reform for America's Security and Prosperity Act of 2009 as introduced.
- Short: CIR ASAP Act of 2009 as introduced.
- Short: Comprehensive Immigration Reform ASAP Act of 2009 as introduced.
- Short: Comprehensive Immigration Reform for America's Security and Prosperity Act of 2009 as introduced.
- Short: AgJOBS Act of 2009 as introduced.
- Short: Agricultural Job Opportunities, Benefits, and Security Act of 2009 as introduced.
- Short: Return of Talent Act as introduced.
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jsandi6751,
RIGHT NOW there are 50-100 illegal foreign felons WORKING at Yamato engines in seattle. All of these jobs should be for unemployed US CITIZENS.
You will get your amnesty over my dead body!
I totally understand your frustration. But do you realize that it takes an EB2 worker i.e. Masters degree or higher atleast 5 years to get his/her paperwork processed LEGALLY. Do you think if congress changes this by fastening the legal process- in turn harboring and encouraging a better more clearer way to legalizing immigration. If so support this bill. Otherwise the Mehicans are not going anywhere….
I think this does make more sense than fighting about whats going on
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Here, Here. Now I cant even pull up the summary of this bill. Talk about OUR new transparincy.
I agree with u. U have to consider people who are here and completed
masters or higher education and paying all the taxes like all americans paying.
U dnt disagree with government when we pay taxes even though we never
get any benefits in future.
i can understand your frustration…yes, there is tons of people that just come over and take jobs…but what about situations where people were here since 2,3 4, or 5 years…and do not even know anything about their foreign countries….they’ve gone to elementary, jr. high and high school here…gone to college…it seems unfair to them they didnt ask to be brought here, but this is all the life they know…I feel for them.
It still does not make them legal nor should it. If they are here and actually want to become citizens then do it the right way. A person should never benefit from the criminal activity of their parent. Do not try to blame U.S. citizens or play on their emotions just because someones parents broke the law. If the child was brought over illegally then the child should be looking at the parents and that is where the blame should be placed.
What you’re saying here is that the children of criminals should get a free pass because of what their parents did. If that was the case, then the children of ALL criminals should get special treatment because they suffer for what their parents have done. Ridiculous.
They only know America because of choices their parents made, but they continued to stay, knowing they were illegal. A child that is taught to shoplift by their parents may only know that life when they are young, but at some point, they make their own choices and decide whether they will continue to be criminals or choose to follow the law. If they choose to NOT follow the law, then they make the choice to be criminals.
Amnesty is never going to be the answer, we need to consider practical solutions, large scale deportation is also not the answer, this bill is a step in the right direction, I also think more than one bill will be needed to fix the system.
It is not neccessary to deport however many ILLEGAL immigrants there are in the USA. They will self-deport IF all employers are required use the E-Verify program, and the No-Match process, on all current and future employees. Yes there is a small percentage of errors in the E-Verify database, but there is a process to correct the errors. If there are no jobs or other source of income, they will leave. As for the US Citizen children of the illegals, it has always been that children go where and when their parents decide, even if others don’t like it. It’s called parental rights and responsibility.
I agree LaneBrannock. Whether the children who are citizens stay or not is the choice of them and their families. I strongly believe in parental rights and responsibility.
It seems pretty much common sense that if employers stopped hiring them, they would leave. Maybe the punishment for hiring illegals needs to be tougher. If the fines don’t cost more than the money saved hiring illegals, they will continue to hire illegals. A western state I used to work in had a lesser fine for hunting without a license for non-residents than the cost of getting a license. How common do you think it was that people took the risk of paying the lesser amount?
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jsandi6751
PROOF
http://www.ice.gov/pi/nr/0908/090818seattle.htm
Guilty plea to many felony charges. BS sentence to probation and tiny fine.
And even if it was not true. Lies are not a felony in USA. 1st Amendment.
If it was. DC would be a ghost town LOL!
Slander and defamation are not a felony. Felonies typically result in jail, monetary penalties and even loss of civil liberties. They are not even a crime they are what you call a tort and can expose one’s self to civil suits. However, they are extremely difficult to prove and there are many defenses against them. Two of which are the truth and if it is deemed ones opinion. One also has to prove damages resulted from the slander in this case the damages would likely be monetary.
The reasons I single out these three are as follows.
A) Anyone who automatically takes what people say as fact in forums would not be considered a reasonable person. Therefore what Americafirst is saying could easily be defended as opinion.
B) Please see the following article about Yamato Engines charged for knowingly hiring illegal immigrants.
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/53507382.html
This provides more than enough evidence to fall under the truthfulness defense.
Here is the final nail in the coffin of US law.
And that I am not lying.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2009915179_apwaworksiteraid2ndldwritethru.html
I cant believe what I read , why dont we just put a bow on america and give it away (joking)
I’m wondering how ur comments really helps to resolve the issue.
there is nothing to resolve this is America and they are trying to pass legislation that doesn’t help American citizens or even think of them. whats to resolve?
THIS is nothing more than the liberlas trying to get a majority forever.
THIS WILL BE FOUGHT!
We need to understand that we will never reach a real long-term solution if this discussion is drowned out by false accusations and name calling. Please keep in mind this debate must be about substance and policy rather than irrational fears of the unknown.
You need to read, “Democrats’ suicide strategy; do they know something we don’t?” December 21, 2009, DC Independent Examiner James Simpson.
The Democrats are about to introduce another bill, Universal Voter Registration, which will force all states to automatically register everyone who is on welfare rolls, prisons or government subsidy, including illegal aliens. If this bill is passed, we will become a socialist nation with the majority on some form of welfare.
Why is it anytime any legislation is proposed people have to go and make extremely wacky predictions as to how the bill will affect the nation.
The last President to give mass Amnesty was President Reagan in 1986, the nation didn’t “fall to the communists”
Yes, the Democratic Congress passed an amnesty bill and President Reagan signed it so he could get the Tax Reform Act of 1986 passed. The big reason he signed it was that the Democratic Congress promised that they would appropriate monies and enhance the immigration laws so that “we will never need an amnesty again”. Well ….
Exactly right. I believe it was Mr. Left Himself Ted Kennedy who said those words but here we are listening to the same old rhetoric from the Dems. We need to pass this Bill and awww those poor illegals. Horse manure. What needs to be done is e-verify be made the law of the land and heavy fines and criminal charges for employers that choose to hire them. Once that is in place then we can look at maybe increasing the amount of peopel we grant a green card or visa.
The consensus is that the 1986 amnesty actually encouraged more illegal immigration. This is because it was positive reinforcement and gave people considering illegal entry the idea that if they could just get here and hide in the shadows, eventually amnesty would legalize them. The 1986 amnesty, which covered over 3 million people, clearly did not work, since we have 4 times as many illegals here now than we did in 1986!
In addition, those granted amnesty have family that wants to be with them. They just need to make it across the border and to their relatives place and they’ve got somewhere to stay until the next amnesty. If they have a baby they are golden!! Our taxes support that child and mother.
Amnesty rewards criminal behavior. I am a first generation American, and I understand the desire of people to come to this country, but those wishing to come to America must be required to show respect for American law before being allowed to enter, or to remain here.