We are not looking for a mob boss nor are we asking for the world. We would like the opportunity to sit down with our employeer’s and be able to discuss the issues that affect our lives. We just want a voice !!!

Unions are voluntary organizations and they should remain that way. If Firefighters and Police Officers think that they need representation, they can join a union or hire an attorney. Unions should never be forced on anyone. Civil servants should not be forced into closed shop at the will of the federal government. The states have done quite well maintaining union activities within their borders. We do not need legislation form Harry Reed which forces civil servants into mandated union contracts. If municipalities are having employment issues, then those specific municipalities need to address their issues with the voters and the civil servants. People think that the unions will provide better pay and benefits for workers, this simply is not true and most union contracts result in lesser benefits and less pay. I have personally witnessed Unions which were enacted only to be decertified a few years later for lack of performance. Focus on unemployment and improving the economy!

The problem is many departments dont even have a civil service system in place to even address workers rights. You have no recourse and are prevented from even bringing up the issue. You are correct that a union is a voluntary organization. We need to pass this law in order for people to have the choice to join one or not. Anyone can join a union but it doesnt make sense in states that dont recognize collective bargaining.

The last part of your comment is the issue must have against this Bill. Each State currently determines their own “Right to Work” status in their own state. If this Bill passes it will be first step in Federalizing “Right to Work” by slowly taking away the States’ right to decide on these issues. Reid knows he doesn’t have the votes for this bill on its own so he sticks it in a war funding bill.

Seriously, you do not get it. You see some sinister liberal plot where there is none.

It is obvious you know nothing of what you speak. In places like the south we have zero rights in regards to unionizing. I lost a promotion due to my work in organizing here. With this bill we will finally be able to be heard.

This ongoing struggle between Labor and management is very one sided.
While the big push to dis organize labor groups is going on lets shoot to
dis organizing all such assemblies. Start with NASED, keep going break up the national association of State governors and there are many more like minded groups far more dangerous that our working mens organizations. The AMA is never mentioned …It is not fair to just pin point labor unions.

I am told that BAPS tops them all:
Realators
Beer wholesales
Home builders
Electrical workers
Operating engineers
Labor unions of North America
American Association for justice
Credit Unions National Associations
National association of Undertakers
You see not only working people have unions
But plenty of other Organizations get into the act
with the same vision that every individual deserves the right to a peaceful, dignified and healthy way of life. And by improving the quality of life of the individual, we are bettering families, communities, our world and our future.
So give me a break ; LAY OFF THE UNION BUSTING!

How has the government denied workers those rights? When has it disrupted the peace of their lives? How has offering free healthcare benefits to them prevented them from being less healthy than everyone else? Thats exactly the problem with your argument. MOREOVER, your logic is flawed. Higher pay and and benefits (through collective bargaining) doesn’t help communities/our future because taxpayers are footing the bill; and more pay = higher taxes. This takes money away from non-gov’t workers who’d otherwise use it to repaint their house or donate money for a new swing-set at their local park. If business taxes go up then money is taken that could otherwise go towards hiring more workers. If jobs are not created in private industry then who pays the taxes for government workers? It also leads to more people on unemployment also paid by taxes. Data supports this logic. Greece is a prime example of how government unions can overstress the tax-base and destory an economy.

Why don’t we bust them ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Weren’t unions originally formed to keep “greedy evil corporations” from exploiting workers. That would imply that government has been exploiting workers then if they need a union. Clear verified data has shown Federal employees are already paid thousands more in salary and benefits that similar jobs in private industry, AND they have more time off (i.e. vacation days).
Supporters only need to look at California and the city of LA’s budget problems to see the effect unions and government employees.

And how many of those of you that are opposed to this bill are actually line personnel? Unless you have worked in the trenches like the rest of us public employees and have stopped being a public politician trying to advance yourselves and look good for your superiors, you would see that those of us in NC have NO EMPLOYEE RIGHTS and are treated badly. Anyway, if public safety officers WERE treated fairly, then administrators have nothing to worry about..right..but they do and are scared because with this bill employees now have the tools to be treated fairly..and by the way..I keep hearing about money..it’s not about the money..it’s about being treated fairly and with dignity and respect.

Then stop being a wuss and do something about it in your own state/municipality. Stop threatening the entire nation’s states’ rights with your bologna and threats of the federal government taking over MORE states’ rights issues. Some of us are sick and tired of the nanny federal government. And yes, I’ve worked for a union. You think they’re so great? Tell that to the people that had been there 30 years and basically had nothing to show for it, other than money taken out for dues each week. I made a whopping $6.10/hr, and this wasn’t in the 70s, this was in the late 90s. And also think about how great Michigan is doing right now. sarcasm You want to be unemployed? Go ahead, push it. Seems pretty counterproductive to me. Unions might mean higher wages for some, but that just means a higher-priced product that people can’t afford, which means less sold, which means you get to hit the unemployment line. Great plan.

So Frank, are it sounds to me as though you are saying that governemnt agencies are either violating or are not complying with Federally mandated OSHA laws. Quite an accuastion. If the government is not following its own labor laws, sue them in court… you do not need a union for that. No one buys the argument this is not about money. Sure there may be some minor other goals, but don’t misrepresent the overarching reason you support this bill; which is of course higher pay and/or more benefits.

Unions and collective bargaining are about much more than pay and benefits, which is especially evident in so called “Right to work” states like Virginia. In many of these states, sheriff’s deputies are at will employees and the only real job protection they have is that which is afforded by federal anti-discrimination law. Unfortunately, this creates a situation in which sheriffs have unchecked power over their employees, and can lead to corruption. Take former Page County (VA) Sheriff Daniel Presgraves for example. He pleaded guilty on federal racketeering charges stemming from allegations that he directed his staff not to enforce cockfighting laws at a certain location, that he had inappropriate relationships with multiple employees, and questionable use of official funds and services. There are plenty of others like him. Giving a little job security to the employees is one way of encouraging whistle-blowers and preventing this kind of corruption.

Another one who knows nothing.

There are three particular aspects of this bill that bother me:

1. The Federal Labor Relations Authority (FLRA) will determine when an agreement, regardless of the employers and employees views on the agreement. Everyone can be satisfied with the agreement, and the FLRA can determine that it is unsatisfactory. The FLRA is a GOVERNMENT agency responsible for overseeing relations between the government and its employees. Its a panel appointed by the President, so, depending on the appointments, it could turn in to an activist union group that isn’t satisfied until all major police and fire departments are unionized.

2. In my mind, there are certain professions that should NEVER be unionized; among those are Police, Fire Departments, and the military.

3. Unions have had an extremely adverse affect on some industries; steel, coal, airlines, and the auto industry to name a few. We can’t afford for them to have a similar affect on the Police and Fire Departments.

This is one case where I’d say,if you aren’t one of us then your opinion means nothing. Those of you against this do not support public safety.

People who support this bill, do the usual union dance and threaten the public. Why on earth should I support with my taxes groups that can at will go on strike because they want more? Public employees should have no different rights that those working in the private sector. Look at the damage that the all-powerful teachers union has done. And they always threaten to strike if they don’t get what they want. So we wind up with tenured lousy teachers that we WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS

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So we wind up with tenured teachers that we WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS support not only while employed but we pay for their retirement as well. We have no opportunity to negotiate with these groups. Only those representatives of ours who are unduly influenced by the union lobbyists do the negotiations.
Since those footing the bill for these government employees have no negotiating rights, I am strongly opposed to any government/union group.
If your boss is breaking the law, you’ve got two choices. Quit, or get him/her to quit. Sorry, but why should any of you that we pay with our taxes have rights and benefits that we don’t have?

They can get a lawyer. Otherwise, I agree.

You see, the Police and Firefighters Monopoly Bargaining Bill is designed to force every firefighter and police officer in the country under union boss control.
And during these troubled economic times, passage of the Police and Firefighters Monopoly Bargaining Bill is the LAST thing we need.

All you need to do is take a look at California and Illinois to see what the rest of the nation has in store should S. 3194 pass.
California is facing a budget deficit of over $19 billion thanks to out-of-control government union bosses and their outrageous demands.

Illinois is facing a $13 billion shortfall — half the state’s budget.

Dropping down a level, the city of Vallejo, California, actually went bankrupt after nearly 75 percent of its budget was spent on satisfying the demands of the union agreement covering police and firefighters.
The union-label Democrat leadership in Congress is DESPERATE to pay back their Big Labor allies.

Attention fellow liberty minded people. Reid and his union monopolies are at it again, this time putting lipstick on a pig indeed.

The failed S.3194 has been changed (ever so slightly) and now is called S.3991 – “Public Safety Employer-Employee Cooperation Act of 2010”…….

Call your senators NOW and demand they vote down either of these bills. A vote could come as soon as tomorrow or this week!

Reid tried to pass this last time by attaching it to a “can’t fail” war funding bill. We resisted and won. Don’t let the lipstick wearing pig get through.

This just shows how deceptive the Lame Duck session is becoming.