S.3992 - Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors Act of 2010

A bill to authorize the cancellation of removal and adjustment of status of certain alien students who are long-term United States residents and who entered the United States as children and for other purposes. view all titles (3)

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  • Short: Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors Act of 2010 as introduced.
  • Short: DREAM Act of 2010 as introduced.
  • Official: A bill to authorize the cancellation of removal and adjustment of status of certain alien students who are long-term United States residents and who entered the United States as children and for other purposes. as introduced.

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DanKat 01/05/2011 3:16am
in reply to Sxeptomaniac Jan 04, 2011 11:46am

Well, one big difference here is the taxpayers are forced to pay for it. The politicians are never satisfied until they heap on things like free this or free that and reduced costs here all paid by our tax dollars.

It always ends up to being preferential treatment to illegals and Americans getting pushed aside – oh and yes Americans paying for it.

Sxeptomaniac 01/04/2011 11:46am
in reply to DanKat Dec 30, 2010 12:37pm

I find it odd that you agree it’s not fair and not their fault they were dealt that hand, yet you still seem to blame those who want to rectify what is unfair. “Life’s not fair” is not a very good excuse when you’re specifically choosing to be unfair by supporting a harsh punishment for those who had no choice.

I’ve already agreed that it is illegal, but that doesn’t mean the penalty is necessarily appropriate. It’s very common to give lenient sentencing in cases where there were extenuating circumstances; this is far from “special treatment.” All of the proposed recipients of the DREAM Act would have been living here for a significant portion of their lives and want to go to college or join the military. It’s not as if illegals have never been granted the opportunity for citizenship before, either.

DanKat 12/30/2010 12:38pm
in reply to gerryd Dec 18, 2010 9:39am

Don’t forget about all those new Democrat voters !!

DanKat 12/30/2010 12:37pm
in reply to Sxeptomaniac Dec 20, 2010 4:38am

Our nation also is one of laws. Illegal immigrants are called “illegal” for a reason. Their children unfortunately are related to criminals and must do the right thing by this country and our laws. Yes, yes, yes, we know it’s not their fault. Okay, yes, we know it’s not fair.

We live in an unfair world and each of us must deal with the hand we are dealt whether it is fair or not. We can’t expect others to always solve our problems for us – - especially to the sake of others – - in this case American citizens who do not want illegal immigrants in this country getting special treatment ahead of American citizens and at the expense of those American citizens.

Sxeptomaniac 12/28/2010 8:43am
in reply to milfadic Dec 27, 2010 8:15am

That’s assuming that 800,000 kids could come up with that. There’s a certain point at which the penalty is too high for people to be able/willing to pay it, instead continuing to go illegal.

I agree that a fine can be a reasonable penalty, which could then be used towards security. However, $10,000 might be a bit steep for someone entering college or the service. Especially in cases where the applicant would like to join the military, I believe any potential fine should be drastically lowered or eliminated, on condition of acceptance and completion of their term of service.

milfadic 12/27/2010 8:16am
in reply to KMWaheed Dec 18, 2010 3:19am

Immigration is definitely a difficult topic to discuss yet I believe we need to analyze it objectively. First, it is imperative to recognize that the current immigration policy can not sustain and is a problem that must be addressed. One key point in this intricate debate is that immigration is caused by a lack of economic and social stability in the immigrant’s countries. As long as the benefits outweigh the risks, immigration will continue. What if we charged $10,000 per application for every person that attempts to benefit from the Dream Act. Assuming 800,000 kids will benefit, that would raise 8 billion dollars over. We could use that money to secure the borders without adding to the deficit. The $10,000 would count as a penalty for entering the country illegally. If the person commits a felony or crime, they would be ineligible and would be arrested and then deported.

milfadic 12/27/2010 8:15am
in reply to kgarza73 Dec 08, 2010 1:56am

Immigration is definitely a difficult topic to discuss yet I believe we need to analyze it objectively. First, it is imperative to recognize that the current immigration policy can not sustain and is a problem that must be addressed. One key point in this intricate debate is that immigration is caused by a lack of economic and social stability in the immigrant’s countries. As long as the benefits outweigh the risks, immigration will continue. What if we charged $10,000 per application for every person that attempts to benefit from the Dream Act. Assuming 800,000 kids will benefit, that would raise 8 billion dollars over. We could use that money to secure the borders without adding to the deficit. The $10,000 would count as a penalty for entering the country illegally. If the person commits a felony or crime, they would be ineligible and would be arrested and then deported.

Sxeptomaniac 12/23/2010 8:25am
in reply to exercise3 Dec 22, 2010 2:44pm

Thanks for the kind words. Honestly, a lot of it just comes from my personality and experiences. I’m a moderate in a family that covers a good range of the political spectrum, from fairly liberal to Tea Party members. We sometimes have strong disagreements about politics, but we are family, and that matters more.

It’s important to remember that everyone is a person. Even if we find their views a repugnant, they may have more in common with ourselves than we like to admit. There’s a person on the far side of those wires and fiber optic. Either one or both of us could ultimately be wrong, even if we’re pretty sure we are right (see philosophical skepticism).
http://xkcd.com/438/

The only time it really gets to me is when people go too far in insulting others, whether it’s insults directed at a specific person or bigoted remarks regarding a group of people (any mentioned political group will, more often than not, include some of my family, after all). There’s no justification for that.

exercise3 12/22/2010 2:44pm
in reply to Sxeptomaniac Dec 20, 2010 4:30am

Sxeptomaniac, do you ever get tired of beating a dead horse? I know that I don’t speak as eloquently as you, but still, doesn’t it get to you—the ignorance—the gullibility.

I want you to know that I am trying to learn from you. To be helpful to the cause I need to learn from you. I need to present my information and ideas in a different way, a more positive way, a more diplomatic way—the way that you do.

Thank you for posting your comments.

DanKat 12/21/2010 9:54am
in reply to KMWaheed Dec 18, 2010 3:14am

I must be lost…. if he did all this illegally, he would not have been murdered?

Sxeptomaniac 12/20/2010 4:38am
in reply to KMWaheed Dec 18, 2010 7:01am

Our nation’s history has been a continual struggle between nativist and immigrant (several movies, such as “Gangs of New York”, have attempted to dramaticize the struggle). The nativists love to portray themselves as the patriotic side. They’re not any more patriotic than other Americans, just more fearful.

Sxeptomaniac 12/20/2010 4:30am
in reply to gerryd Dec 18, 2010 9:39am

English has become the lingua franca of international business, so of course China is teaching it to all their kids. It doesn’t mean China wants them here. They want their best and brightest to stay in China.

As for illegals, actually, it is true that the current situation regarding illegals often benefits big business. As a result, I think that’s a good reason to start changing things. The DREAM act would have been a step in the right direction, by absorbing the best who want to go to college or enter the service.

FYI, typing in all-caps does not help you make your point. It just makes you appear obnoxious and a little crazy.

gerryd 12/18/2010 9:39am

FACE IT EVERYONE – IT IS NOW MANDATORY FOR THE CHINESE KIDS TO SPEAK ENGLISH, AND THE GOVERNMENT WANTS THE ILLEGALS HERE!! SO WE HAVE THE BRILLIANT HIGH-TECH CHINESE TAKING ALL THE HIGH-PAYING JOBS AND/OR MIDDLE-INCOME JOBS, AND THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS TAKING ALL OF THE LOW PAYING JOBS, SO WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US AMERICANS???? IF YOU ARE WORKING NOW, YOU WILL BE A FUTURE 99ER LIKE ME!!!!

gerryd 12/18/2010 9:35am

I am totally against this DREAM Act! Doesn’t anyone realize that our so-called Government aka Dictatorship WANTS the ILLEGALS here! Cheap Labor for the WEALTHY BUSINESS OWNERS! That is why there are over 15 million 99ER’S who got the royal screws put to them yesterday by the gutless President. I know for a fact how it works! The MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION I was terminated from DID IT! I saw the bids for the massive project they were doing on our building. They took the lowest bid – $1 Million Dollars, then the Contractor comes in with a truckload of Mexicans & they worked 12 hrs a day for 15 days & did the job!!! The other bids turned down were in the $2 Million Dollar plus figure range because they were using AMERICAN workers!! And the Immigration Dept. was called and did nothing about it!! Because the Government WANTS it this way!!! These people knew they were illegal and now they want us to give them a break? No one is giving us 99er’s a break!!! AND WE ARE AMERICANS!!!

KMWaheed 12/18/2010 7:19am
in reply to exercise3 Dec 13, 2010 1:12pm

How does that teach our children to live life on life’s terms…which most definitely includes abiding by laws?

KMWaheed 12/18/2010 7:15am
in reply to exercise3 Dec 13, 2010 5:35am

I don’t know how a bunch of male illegal aliens standing outside of a 7-Eleven staring at, ogling and discussing females going in and out of the store while waiting for work shows they are more disciplined/harder working than home-grown Americans.

KMWaheed 12/18/2010 7:12am
in reply to exercise3 Dec 13, 2010 3:23am

Illegal Aliens should have and get nothing, first of all. We don’t need their “dirty” money mixed in with the hard working U.S. Citizens’ money and Legal Residents’ money of this country. We cannot afford more immigrants for so many reasons. I recommend Center for Immigration Studies’ website for info.

Re: College education – they qualify for minority status and the benefits afforded them.

Re: Starting businesses – they qualify for minority status and the benefits afforded them, as well as help from the SBA.

Truthfully, exercise 3, it is YOU who seems angry to me.

KMWaheed 12/18/2010 7:01am

The DREAM Act is a memory! I am so proud of my fellow patriots!

KMWaheed 12/18/2010 6:57am
in reply to tigntink Dec 15, 2010 6:00am

I have a child whose father is currently detained by ICE, pending deportation. My daughter will get NOTHING from this country as a result…not child support (how could they enforce it?) and not SSA benefits of any kind ever (‘though he’s paid into SSA). She is innocent, and she is blameless. Don’t be so naive; we all have crosses to bear however they came to us.

KMWaheed 12/18/2010 6:51am
in reply to MarcosFlores Dec 12, 2010 9:46am

…and, send some of that money back to their homes of origin and their families there….

KMWaheed 12/18/2010 6:50am
in reply to DanKat Dec 10, 2010 9:52am

Just think about how much money would have been spent just to get and process their applications?

KMWaheed 12/18/2010 3:34am
in reply to mattbasta Dec 10, 2010 10:57am

Read S.3992, www.thomas.loc.gov. How much additional $$ will it cost America? I am sure you cannot even conceive of the cost; I can’t. Read Center for Immigration Studies’ Estimating the Impact of the DREAM Act: the cost outweighs the benefits to America! I do sympathize with kids who are here illegally through no fault of their own (as adults – any of them – they have a choice NOW), and I might support something that would help them, I do not support the DREAM Act.

There are 22 million Americans who cannot find a job. At the same time, Pew Research Center reports there are over 8 million illegal aliens currently working in the USA. Supporting the DREAM Act amnesty during the lame duck session would be an affront to these American men and women, legal immigrants, and all their families. How does a mass amnesty help the tens of millions of unemployed and underemployed Americans and legal immigrants who are struggling to keep their homes and meet their families’ essential needs?

KMWaheed 12/18/2010 3:20am
in reply to mattbasta Dec 10, 2010 10:57am

Center for Immigration Studies, December 2010, Estimating the Impact of the DREAM Act: the numbers are against the benefits to America! Please oppose this negatively impacting Act! The DREAM Act is bad legislation. While I might sympathize with kids who are here illegally through no fault of their own (as adults – any of them – they have a choice NOW), and I might even support something that would help them, I do not support the DREAM Act and neither should you.

There are 22 million Americans who cannot find a job. At the same time, Pew Research Center reports there are over 8 million illegal aliens currently working in the USA. Supporting the DREAM Act amnesty during the lame duck session would be an affront to these American men and women, legal immigrants, and all their families. How does a mass amnesty help the tens of millions of unemployed and underemployed Americans and legal immigrants who are struggling to keep their homes and meet their families’ essential needs?

KMWaheed 12/18/2010 3:19am
in reply to MarcosFlores Dec 12, 2010 9:29am

Center for Immigration Studies, December 2010, Estimating the Impact of the DREAM Act: the numbers are against the benefits to America! Please oppose this negatively impacting Act! The DREAM Act is bad legislation. While I might sympathize with kids who are here illegally through no fault of their own (as adults – any of them – they have a choice NOW), and I might even support something that would help them, I do not support the DREAM Act and neither should you.

There are 22 million Americans who cannot find a job. At the same time, Pew Research Center reports there are over 8 million illegal aliens currently working in the USA. Supporting the DREAM Act amnesty during the lame duck session would be an affront to these American men and women, legal immigrants, and all their families. How does a mass amnesty help the tens of millions of unemployed and underemployed Americans and legal immigrants who are struggling to keep their homes and meet their families’ essential needs?

KMWaheed 12/18/2010 3:14am
in reply to jprenna Dec 08, 2010 5:18am

I know a Pakistani family who were separated for 5 years while the husband/father went to establish a legal immigrant status in the U.S. FIVE YEARS OF SEPARATION—children without their father, wife without her husband. Finally, he was able to bring his family to the U.S. All of this done the LEGAL/ESTABLISHED/AMERICAN way. Within 1 year, the husband/father was murdered while working as a taxi cab driver in Manassas, VA. Tell me, these folks who sacrificed so much to be here…how do you think they feel about the 5 year separation from their father/her husband? And, if you don’t understand the point I am making, you’re lost.

exercise3 12/17/2010 3:00pm
in reply to DanKat Dec 17, 2010 3:08am

When one shouts “LEARN THE LANGUAGE” It’s difficult to comprehend that he or she can criticize another when he or she does not speak, write or read his or her first language well. It’s also difficult to comprehend that comment when so many Americans have never learned another language. They, therefore, have no idea how difficult it is to do. Imagine working 5-7 days a week 8-12 hours a day and then trying to make the time to learn another language and a very difficult language at that.

Also the American culture is a mix of many cultures and that’s what makes this country so special.

Exactly how do Americans cater to them? I don’t understand that comment. If you are referring to businesses, then your remark is rather small-minded. It is smart business to cater to your customers. Expand your market; grow your business.

Sxeptomaniac 12/17/2010 7:59am
in reply to DanKat Dec 17, 2010 3:20am

Still straw man, as it mischaracterizes what this particular bill is about in addition to the comments. It’s not about all immigrants, but those who have specifically earned their high school diploma or G.E.D., and is particularly aimed at those who desire to go on to higher education.

exercise3 12/17/2010 3:59am
in reply to exercise3 Dec 16, 2010 4:35pm

I need to clarify “The bar is being raised.” In today’s economic environment there is absolutely no reason for employers to have bad employees. Employers are grabbing the best and/or the brightest. If one is going to get a job, an individual must have a very good work ethic, a very good attitude and a very good education. Employees of this caliber will help build stronger companies—companies that can compete on a global scale. I am confident that many of the students who are awaiting the passage of the DREAM Act will have those good qualities required by companies. Students who are currently US citizens may have those qualities too, but if they don’t, they are not going to be considered for the best jobs. Competition is good. Hopefully it will push more students (and parents) to give 100%.

DanKat 12/17/2010 3:20am
in reply to bluezook Dec 16, 2010 10:13am

I know, they always trot out the class valedictorian stories, the straight A student stories, and forget to mention the other aspects of the strains on our economy and resources, and the crimes.
Gosh, to hear their side you would think Americans have nothing to offer and the illegals are here to save our country. It’s ridiculous.

DanKat 12/17/2010 3:14am
in reply to bluezook Dec 13, 2010 2:34pm

I know, it’s typical. They come here illegally, break the law, then demand things as their “rights.” They all need to be deported.


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