Who, exactly, should control the Government’s Cyber security standards for it’s own agencies?

lol, so very lol.

Let me explain something to YOU… There will ALWAYS be something going on out there that you will not know ANYTHING about because of two things… Clearance and Need to know. These are the two governing principles that bar the general public from knowing all that goes on behind the political interactions of government leaders.

This is not Nazi Germany, this is not the USSR and this is not Communist China. There are REAL threats to this country. There are REAL threats to it’s Information System Security infrastructure. It is essential that it is protected from extra-governmental bodies and internal threats alike.

Oh, and to answer your question, I am NOT for big Gov’t. I am opposed to it. That doesn’t mean that I don’t believe that the government doesn’t have the right to police it’s own agencies in regards to Information System Security.

Please, make another idiotic, ignorant comment like the one above.

Wow, that was the most uninformed, ignorant comment, I’ve perhaps, ever seen.

First, EXPLAIN to me how this bill inflates Big Gov’t? Second of all, did you even READ the article I posted? No? I suggest you go read it.

Let me explain this to you from an Information System (IS) Security perspective, (yes, I actually have expertise in this as I have a MSM of IS Security), the US Government’s IS is one of the most vital areas. It is of great strategic importance. What do you think happens if a Chinese hacker is able to bring down our Defense Network?!? Or maybe another network infrastructure that is of vital importance to the Government IS infrastructure?

I’ve said this, I don’t know how many times, this Bill DOES NOT govern the public internet! IT GOVERNS US GOVERNMENT INFORMATION SYSTEMS SECURITY POLICIES!

It’s always the same. Rule number one for getting the people to go along;scare them. “Why of course the people don’t want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don’t want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” Hermann Goering

Like Hermann said.“It’s easy.”

This Government can’t be trusted because they always abuse the powers they are given plain and simple their justamick. NO MORE SPENDING , AND NO MORE BIG GOVERNMENT.

justamick Government is too BIG and needs to be stopped but I’m the fool you must love BIG Government tell you what to do , listening to your phone calls etc well most of in America are tired of BIG GOVERNMENT aka BIG BROTHER.

This:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8369707.stm

Is the exact reason why this legislation is needed! Wake up people!

I couldn’t agree more and we as a people of this nation need to protect our privacy not discard it for BIG Government.

Bad bill, bad idea vote it down.

You didn’t read this bill at all. Net neutrality is a completely different issue.

Well, he hasnt broken any law so there is no way to do that. (although his Czars come close but still dont brake any laws. I think we should watch it carefully and ensure that it doesnt happen.)

Geeze… yet another one. Look, the bill refers to the network security and information system infrastructure of the United States Govt. It seeks to standardize all the Information System Security policies of US Govt agencies. That is all. There is no erosion of civil liberties here buddy. Calm down, go drink a beer and relax.

Adolf?

Liberalism is not necessarily bad. Socialism, yes.

Everyone is entitled to their own ways of thinking.

Progressive thinking, to me, is nothing to be scoffed at or looked down upon. One might argue that the Civil Rights movement was a progressive movement. Would you also argue that the Civil Rights movement was a bad thing? I’m pretty sure you’d stand alone if you actually did think that.

The majority of these people, who granted are ignorant on the issue, are not complaining about invasion of privacy… they are complaining about infringement on their Constitutionally garunteed rights.

Just need to ensure that you understood that.

They do if it is within the Government itself… i.e. within US Govt agency networks…

And no, it would be appropriate for the committe to report to the President AND Congress not one or the other.

wow, really? Even though it is right infront of your face? weird.

That is because the cyber world IS a part of real life. Do you think that just because you’re sitting in your living room that there is not a Chinese hacker sitting in a Chinese Military compound in China trying to hack Department of Defense databases or maybe CIA databases? Are you really that naive?

Cyber security and awareness is a vital. Network infrastructure is a vitally strategic area that needs to be protected. Are you really so foolish to think that the government doesn’t need to protect its information system infrastructure?

I suppose you don’t use virus protection on your computer either right? Passwords on websites or on personal databases? Ever wondered what protects your personal information when you submit it over the internet? These are all things that this bill is trying to standardize of the Government and ensure that they are addressed amoung all US Government agencies.

I agree with you, but calling them idiots is crossing the line. Ignorant, yes. Misinformed, yes.

Well… being that nothing even close to the internet was even a glimmer in someone’s eye back then… Id say no no where. It would say that you could argue that the Constitution provides that power in inherient authority of the US to protect itself and it’s interests… The US Government information system domain being one of those interests.

AGAIN, to thouse of you who didnt get this before… THIS BILL REGULATES FEDERAL INFORMATION SYSTEM SECURITY PROGRAMS AND IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM WILL INFRINGE ON FREEDOM OF SPEECH OR PRESS!

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As Nero fiddled, Rome burned! Will we allow this insult to happen?
Hear that drum in the background, slowly beating but getting closer/louder? That is a call to action for patriots to once again ensure they are safe from this new form of government tyranny. It’s powers are far too easy to abuse, and too tempting!

The “handwriting is on the wall” in this bill; who is courageous enough to call-out our “representatives” on this? WHEN THE VOTE IS COUNTED, THE LIST OF SUPPORTERS will be revealing once and forever. And these new POWERS will become next to impossible to ever be changed. THINK ABOUT IT!

While the issues addressed are valid concerns, of far greater concern should be the additional powers granted SOLELY to the Executive Branch. We should be very, very concerned about these particular powers. They are too easy to abuse, and far more tempting to do so that all the gold in Fort Knox!

Bush would’ve just claimed ‘executive priviledge’ on this and
rammed it down your throats…

It’s amazing how ignorance runs rampant right?

Spoken like a person who really doesnt know what they are talking about. The above statement is refering specifically to the compromise of US Govenrment Information systems. US Govt intranets and WANs can disconnect from the internet to protect against cyber attack.

i.e. The President can order the shut down of US Government Information Systems and disconnection of them from internet servers. READ what you, yourself posted! It does not say that he can shut down the Internet!

READ THIS: may declare a cybersecurity emergency and order the limitation or shutdown of Internet traffic to and from any compromised *Federal** Government or United States critical infrastructure information system or network;

WHERE in there does it say that he can shut down the internet?!?

Giving the President “emergency” authority to control the internet? REALLY?!?!?!? HAS ANYONE REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THIS? WHERE DO MOST AMERICANS GET THEIR NEWS AND INFORMATION THESE DAYS? THE INTERNET!!!!!!! It sounds to me like someone wants to be able to keep the public in the dark.
This concept grossly over steps the boundaries set in place to keep the government in check.

Our forefather are turning in there graves on this one! Can we please have an election to vote this man out of office. Are you sure he does not think he is the Messiah ?