(un)funny story about that….

.. joe LIEberman used the arguement that china can do it

so he wants us to be like commies.

it allows the govt to block out parts of the internet or just shut it off.

like iran, saudi arabia, china, and other repressive dictatorships like that

A simple question from the “ignorant opposition” – Who is going to pay for this – see Sec 4.11.1 and 2, Sec 5.6.a. What is wrong with the current NIST 800-53 standards? How about COBIT and ISO 27001? Do we need a bill to start an effort to tell us what we already have spent years on developing just to grow government? What about the "certification aspect – Sec 7.8.a – Why should the government dictate “what certification” I should hold to “practice security”. I am a security professional and my certifications apply directly to the areas of security relevant to my practice. There is way more to “security” than any single certification can cover. This type of overarching regulatory quagmire is the same as the simple roots to Sarbanes Oxley – which, for the ignorant, costs millions nay billions to support and little benefit has been appreciated as many companies still need to “restate” their earnings each year. Be careful of snake oil salesmen that try to sell you the source.

Thank god!! Glad to see there’s someone else on here who is actually reading the bill!

Some provisions of this bill could be considered under the 1st amendment. I can’t speak for everything in this but net neutrality is very important. The problem right now is that ISPs can and do discriminate on the types of information their users can access. There are very few ISPs so you essentially have a corporate takeover of free speech online.

http://gigaom.com/2008/07/11/comcast-caught-denies-blocking-traffic/

It’s important that ISPs not be allowed to discriminate traffic. Again, I haven’t read the details of this particular bill but enforcing net neutrality should not be misconstrued as a government takeover of the Internet. Net neutrality guarantees that all of us can speak freely online without ISPs tipping the scales.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/sarah-palin-911-truther-controversy-explodes.html

Congress is now afraid of the people of the United States having a free and open forum to express themselves and are trying to thinly veil it as a security issue- the only security they seek to protect is thier own position and wish to squelch any opinion that may differ from thiers- this is unlawful and against the will of the people. The jack booted Nazis tried to stop free speach as well.

Fascism
They are afraid of people waking up.

" Federal Government or United States critical infrastructure information system or network;" is NOT the whole internet.

Do you really think that the President is going to invoke “National Security” as an excuse to shut down Pogo?? or Yahoo?? Or MyCokeRewards??

Why don’t we all try actually thinking for a few minutes??

"" Federal Government or United States critical infrastructure information system or network;" is NOT the whole internet."

Just to clairify critical systems would be reffering to the core routers on the internet owned by AT&T, Nortel, Qwest etc.

Technically you could shut down these routers and kill the internet, one thig no one has mentioned is that the military already has this ability in case of an attack on the U.S. after all the internet was originally built by the military. Although the executive branch could access the core routers and block private IP addresses!!

Write your senators and congressmen/congresswoman to tell them if they vote for this you will vote them out!!

This bill is loosely held together with a greater intent to lock down free speech. If you are worried about the power grids, banking and such then lock down your Intranet…not our INTERNET. Career Politicians have sold us out for too long. they don’t want Term Limits…Voter Imposed Term Limits are Coming.

Anybody else smell fascism?

Obviously advances in technology have brought us to an existence that no one could have ever imagined. That being said, the only reason our world is different socially and politically is because we have relinquished so many of our rights for the sake of convenience and security. The Constitution will always stand strong, regardless of what we are driving or what medical advances we have made. To justify the lack of consideration for the Constitution because we aren’t living the same type of lifestyle as Thomas Jefferson is ludicrous.

Correction….I meant drive my car. I’m so angry my fingers are moving faster than my eyes!!

The solution is vote the people OUT who sponsor these bills. Look at the names on this bill and you can easily see they’ve been part of every scam the gov’t. has been trying to pull. These people have gone beyond arrogant. They think they’re GOD!

Talk to the citizens of China whose government controls what they can and can’t see on the internet. This won’t be a problem for the true computer geeks but for the everyday folks that don’t know how to get around firewalls, etc. (or their ISP has simply been shut down) it will be a problem.

I would love to vote out those that are sponsoring the bills, however they are not in my state. (But what all the representatives and senators do affect ALL of us.) How do we communicate with the voters that have the power to vote these guys out? What can be done about the blatant unconstitutional actions of both the executive and legislative branches? You sure can’t depend on the judicial branch since much of what they do is unconstitutional as well.

Remember that this administration will “not let a ‘crisis’ go to waste”. This is just another way the government is trying to seize complete control of our lives and ensure that they control all speech so that no dissent is possible.

I suspect the feds (now Socialists) will attempt to “shoe horn” this presumed power in using the Erie Doctrine that extended federal jurisdiction over all matters that traveled in “interstate commerce.” Naturally, information passed on the Internet / Intranets (it could be argued) “travels” in interstate commerce… So … watch out for this approach.

I don’t support this bill for one reason, this bill will allow for the continued sharing of personal information regarding the citizens of this country with foreign entities. It astounds me that data on citizens is so readily shared with other countries via the practice of offshoring/insourcing (h1b). Social security numbers, credit card numbers, addresses, names, birthdays, etc. It is apparent this practice should be deemed illegal. I would support any bill that makes illegal the practices of offshoring/insourcing (h1B) any IT function/data containing the personal information of citizens of this country. If for nothing less, than the peace of mind of the citizens.

Wow, that was the most uninformed, ignorant comment, I’ve perhaps, ever seen.

First, EXPLAIN to me how this bill inflates Big Gov’t? Second of all, did you even READ the article I posted? No? I suggest you go read it.

Let me explain this to you from an Information System (IS) Security perspective, (yes, I actually have expertise in this as I have a MSM of IS Security), the US Government’s IS is one of the most vital areas. It is of great strategic importance. What do you think happens if a Chinese hacker is able to bring down our Defense Network?!? Or maybe another network infrastructure that is of vital importance to the Government IS infrastructure?

I’ve said this, I don’t know how many times, this Bill DOES NOT govern the public internet! IT GOVERNS US GOVERNMENT INFORMATION SYSTEMS SECURITY POLICIES!

Whose house of cards has the most to lose in this light of day? For those who know what I know, this bill makes total sense. Kinda like Nazi mass murderers trying to hide their past deeds and future plans from the people. The German Nazis didn’t have the internet, but they did have books. The fascists of today are one in the same. The internet is the single most powerful weapon to defend ourselves with.
If Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler, amongst others, had the internet in their time, what would they have done with it? Destroying it, is too obvious. To CONTROL it, in the name of national security is an easy sell to the ignorant masses. Give it a name like CYBER SECURITY. Who can be against that? The saxon game is slow. But that is why it seems to work. Little by little, liberty will fail, if people stay ignorant in apathy. If you fail to wake up, you will love your new home. If you wake up at all, you’ll realize that you’ve lost everything. except freedom.

Any “additional Power” given to any President is a major, MAJOR, mistake. It is exactly the kind of government that we revolted away from 250 years ago. BEWARE, BEWARE!

Our forefather are turning in there graves on this one! Can we please have an election to vote this man out of office. Are you sure he does not think he is the Messiah ?

Dont confuse the Patriot Act with this Cyber Security Act. The Patriot act is a gross violation of civil liberties. All it does is exercise more control over Government IS Policies and Procedures.

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As Nero fiddled, Rome burned! Will we allow this insult to happen?
Hear that drum in the background, slowly beating but getting closer/louder? That is a call to action for patriots to once again ensure they are safe from this new form of government tyranny. It’s powers are far too easy to abuse, and too tempting!

The “handwriting is on the wall” in this bill; who is courageous enough to call-out our “representatives” on this? WHEN THE VOTE IS COUNTED, THE LIST OF SUPPORTERS will be revealing once and forever. And these new POWERS will become next to impossible to ever be changed. THINK ABOUT IT!

While the issues addressed are valid concerns, of far greater concern should be the additional powers granted SOLELY to the Executive Branch. We should be very, very concerned about these particular powers. They are too easy to abuse, and far more tempting to do so that all the gold in Fort Knox!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et042-Ii__U

The world we live in is a bit different from the one Thomas Jefferson lived in.

I couldn’t agree more and we as a people of this nation need to protect our privacy not discard it for BIG Government.

Looks like Rockerfeller doesn’t want people finding out about his family ;)

Beware of false flag cyber attacks