Thank god!! Glad to see there’s someone else on here who is actually reading the bill!

The world we live in is a bit different from the one Thomas Jefferson lived in.

Oh yes, we liberals are trying to take over the world. Look where the Republicans’ hands off approach got us. Sorry that you live in such a fear-based world.

thank you for clarifying how the law is written.

There is a MAJOR difference between raising revenue and spending. Choose your words carefully.

First of all, cite a source on that ascertation.

Second of all, that is completely false. Case and Point: the health care legislation that Baccus created SPECIFICALLY relates to spending!

I’m trying to understand where you are coming from on this comment. I’ve read over the summary and the only thing that I find even mildly objectional is making it unlawful to provide System security services with out specific accreditation. The rest of bill primarily focuses on the US Government and Contracting companys.

I find NOTHING in this that would regulate anything to do with private citizens.

Why wouldnt you want the government to be in control of their own Cyber Security standards? As it stands, there is really no specific security standards accross the board for all the US Govt agencies. AND there is a real need for the President to be advised on all things relating to cyber security. The real threat to this contries infrastructure is our cyber security. You destroy the network, you destroy the coutry’s ability to wage an effective an efficent war. This bill is NEEDED.

Any “additional Power” given to any President is a major, MAJOR, mistake. It is exactly the kind of government that we revolted away from 250 years ago. BEWARE, BEWARE!

…to government buildings.

Okay, let’s just be honest and clear what is happening here. Net neutrality is about equal routing priority. I’ll use an analogy. Say it’s like the roadway system. You and I have a single driveway to our house. We can realistically get one car in and out at any given time. The port of Los Angeles has a state highway going into. They need to have trucks going in and out all the time. But then on the freeway your little car and the trucks all have the same priority regardless of traffic.

What this bill is trying to avoid is a fast lane for trucks.

If you designated a fast lane for trucks it would take forever for you to get to work, visit your family, etc, because you and they can’t afford to buy their own freeway lanes.

So, this is basically the iPatriot Act.

I feel like I’m waking up in China. What does it take to start the process of impeaching the Idiot in Chief?

You had me going until you got to:” what would they have done with it?” Then you get a little paranoid. True some big ISP’s have tried to restrict bandwidth for commercial and political reasons. But not that is not the purpose of this bill. There is clearly a need to be able to protect essential services in the event of a crisis and protect essential services from crisis. Maybe this bill isn’t it, but it needs to be addressed. I’m going to pirate this though:” The saxon (sic) game is slow.” Thanks!

Whose house of cards has the most to lose in this light of day? For those who know what I know, this bill makes total sense. Kinda like Nazi mass murderers trying to hide their past deeds and future plans from the people. The German Nazis didn’t have the internet, but they did have books. The fascists of today are one in the same. The internet is the single most powerful weapon to defend ourselves with.

If Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler, amongst others, had the internet in their time, what would they have done with it? Destroying it, is too obvious. To CONTROL it, in the name of national security is an easy sell to the ignorant masses. Give it a name like CYBER SECURITY. Who can be against that? The saxon game is slow. But that is why it seems to work. Little by little, liberty will fail, if people stay ignorant in apathy. If you fail to wake up, you will love your new home. If you wake up at all, you’ll realize that you’ve lost everything, except freedom.

Whose house of cards has the most to lose in this light of day? For those who know what I know, this bill makes total sense. Kinda like Nazi mass murderers trying to hide their past deeds and future plans from the people. The German Nazis didn’t have the internet, but they did have books. The fascists of today are one in the same. The internet is the single most powerful weapon to defend ourselves with.
If Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler, amongst others, had the internet in their time, what would they have done with it? Destroying it, is too obvious. To CONTROL it, in the name of national security is an easy sell to the ignorant masses. Give it a name like CYBER SECURITY. Who can be against that? The saxon game is slow. But that is why it seems to work. Little by little, liberty will fail, if people stay ignorant in apathy. If you fail to wake up, you will love your new home. If you wake up at all, you’ll realize that you’ve lost everything. except freedom.

When will the lunacy end? Wake-up America and smell the socialism!

Do we have any Constitutional Law experts that have any input where these bills are concerned? What the hell is going on? What’s going to happen when they decide to shut down the internet for security reasons? This government is not “of the people, for the people, or by the people”. Very scary….

Article 1, Section 7: All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

Bills not related to the raising of revenue (such as this one) may be introduced in either the house or senate.

Also from Section 7:
Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States; If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House…

I think this bill has some good aspects to it but it also is flawed with some of the language. Sen. Rockefeller should find a way to reword the bill so that it gets to the main point he’s trying to tackle. Protecting the American people is his goal but by regulating the Internet in this manner is all wrong. I oppose this bill!

All of these clowns are corrupt, please sign our petition. The right is only mad because the left now has the control of the corruption.

http://mywhitehouse.org/dont-tread-on-me/

I agree with Ocyris completely. Of course we have now ALL BRANCHES of our government who each are supposed to check the others. And, of course we all know that ALL Branches of our government are supposed to have READ and FOLLOWED the US Constitution, but it is apparant more and more that they do not do either.

I believe that we all need to focus on a few important issues, rather than the scatter-gun approach we have used in our TEA PARTY group. If I had to pick the one issue which would drive down the size and cost of government while at the same time taking back our liberty and freedom, it would be forcing our Congress, Judicial and Executive branches to follow the darn Constitution.

What do you all think?

This bill is downright evil and a complete violation of the Constitution. Why even swear to “Protect and Defends The Constitution of The United States of America” if you are just going to walk all over it?

PLEASE Don’t think about continuing to press this foolishness, Jay-bone. We, the Useless Eater Class, are starting to acquire a taste for criminal elitist types…and a Ravenous appetite, to accompany it. Rockefellers are Well-along, on their way to joining the most-recent, most-insidious, most-durable installment of the Kennedy Debacle, in the trashbin of History.

Anytime I see the title of a include the words “and for other purposes” I can’t help but think to myself what crap are they trying to sneak past the American people.

I’ve been saying that ever since BHO started campaigning! Glad I’m not the only one that has recognized this parallel. They should make Atlas Shrugged High School reading requirement, if that still exists. Although this has nothing to do with the subject bill, it has everything to do with the general philosophy. Atlas Shrugged and Fountain Head are must reads!

Becoming more and more like Russia…..

Freedom of speech is our basic right and they have the gall to want to stop it?? Vote these guys out!!!

I don’t support this bill for one reason, this bill will allow for the continued sharing of personal information regarding the citizens of this country with foreign entities. It astounds me that data on citizens is so readily shared with other countries via the practice of offshoring/insourcing (h1b). Social security numbers, credit card numbers, addresses, names, birthdays, etc. It is apparent this practice should be deemed illegal. I would support any bill that makes illegal the practices of offshoring/insourcing (h1B) any IT function/data containing the personal information of citizens of this country. If for nothing less, than the peace of mind of the citizens.

I suspect the feds (now Socialists) will attempt to “shoe horn” this presumed power in using the Erie Doctrine that extended federal jurisdiction over all matters that traveled in “interstate commerce.” Naturally, information passed on the Internet / Intranets (it could be argued) “travels” in interstate commerce… So … watch out for this approach.

The liberal/socialist movement in this country led by Obama to destroy the Bill of Rights and the Constitution CAN AND MUST BE STOPPED AT ALL COSTS! His agenda is not that different from Adolph Hitler’s.