There is no specific information in this bill describing what will be done. We do not want a bill that will automatically give citizenship to all of the people who have broken United States laws and entered the U.S.A. illegally.

I didn’t see anything about “automatic citizen ship.”

I rather get people that are here out of the shadows and paying taxes like the rest of us. Get a record of them, put them in the back of the line and make them pay.

They are here regardless, lets get them to pay too.

I agree, this issue is complex, but really we should not allow for there to be such giant loopholes in our legislation that we continue to short-change those who followed the rules and became citizens legally. We really need to start holding people accountable for their actions in this country. The USA is not a free for all! We should focus on legislation that will make these immigrants want to willfully go back to their countries if they are here illegally. We want legislation that holds the feet of the employers to the fire in such ways that economically it doesn’t make sense for the illegal immigrants to stay.

What is the point of this? “It is the sense of Congress that Congress should pass…” Is this the kind of stupid things Washington spends its time on?

Hey Congress, how about if you want to express your opinion that Congress should pass something you… PASS SOMETHING. See how that cuts out the stupid meaningless resolutions like this one.

I was just thinking – maybe this is just a placeholder, and they plan on amending/replacing the useless bill that is in the text now with something that is actually something.

This bill has no information in it. What exactly is being done to improve the economy? Give me a break!

The title and text of this bill are so misleading. How do they get away with this? Do not be fooled, this is an amnesty bill. They say a purpose of the bill is to “reduce illegal immigration”, and they mean by granting amnesty. Voila! – That will reduce the number of illegal immigrants! Anyone reading this and interested, find the full text of this bill, believe me it is an amnesty bill.

What are you talking about?? As of right now this is just a ‘placeholder’ bill with no meaningful text at all. It pretty much IS just the title.

Why don’t you wait until there is some actual text to complain about — then you can go all xenophobic-nutcase on it again.

Xenophobic, eh? I suggest you read Patrick Leahy’s intro of the bill. He blatantly states the bill will be used to stop any fence construction on the southern border and provide a path of citizenship to those “immigrants” hiding in the shadows. He makes no bones about it, this is to be used to pass an amnesty.

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Poor kenj0418, like most pro-amnesty advocates, you apparently just can’t come up with any arguments in favor of the invasion, so you have to use the race card. If someone is not for the invasion and cultural occupation of our sovereign nation by another, it must be xenophobia.

There are 50,000 Irish illegal aliens in this country, and I think they should all be deported – now. You can’t get much more white, caucasion, European than that. My ancestors are Irish. Now, kenj0418, try using your race card on that.

This bill had no content at all. (It’s just a placeholder with some ‘congress shall pass something’ sort of text — at least on this site). My ‘xenophobic’ comment was more directed toward the general tone of most comments on this site. See H.J.Res.5 for one that particularly upsets me (as it intends to muck around with the constitution as well).

As far amnesty – no, I’m not a big fan. I’m much more for
1) Fixing the broken bureaucracy we have for legal immigrants (where there are multi-year backlogs to get applications processed)
2) Remove the incentive for people to come here illegally. (My preference would have been for making employers follow the laws we have now and punishing employers that intentionally hire illegals, but looks like the gov’t opted for the ‘turn the economy to crap’ solution instead)
3) IF illegals are given some sort of path to permanent residency — it should only be AFTER every LEGAL immigrant has had their green card apps processed. While we have the huge back log of people who HAVE followed the law and want to be come permanent residents and/or citizens – we shouldn’t even be discussing amnesty.

In general I am very supportive of LEGAL immigrations, and not at all of illegal immigration. However, many of the proposals I’ve seen (H.J.Res.5 and H.R. 60 for example) seem to lump LEGAL immigrants into the same pile with illegals — that’s the mindset I was referring to as xenophobic.

By the way:
xenophobia : noun
definition: an unreasonable fear or hatred of foreigners or strangers or of that which is foreign or strange

Nowhere does it mention race. I wasn’t playing ‘race card’.

I would like to see more details on this bill before I decide.

I believe this is an open-ended attempt to provide amnesty for the many, many illegal aliens that are in our country tody. If Mr. Reid and the co-sponsors of this Bill really wanted to protect this country and enhance our financial recovery, they would provide the resources to close our boarders and return illegal aliens to their home country.