S.J.Res.4 - A joint resolution proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to abolish the electoral college and to provide for the direct popular election of the President and Vice President of the United States.

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  • Official: A joint resolution proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to abolish the electoral college and to provide for the direct popular election of the President and Vice President of the United States. as introduced.

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  • Anonymous 01/09/2009 3:21pm
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    Honda and Obama never needed this or those seat inheritance problems.

  • parlezlibrement 01/12/2009 7:34am

    By abolishing the Electoral College (set forth by the Constitution) Our republic, where we live by the “rule of law”, will transformed into a true democracy, place where the popular vote, or “majority rule”, is the law. And the popular vote always changes. If our nation were not a republic, then things like freedom of religion and the right to bear arms would be voted against by the popular/majority decision (meaning this would be a pro-Christian, anti-gun nation – as it is well known that the majority of Americans are Christian, and against the sale and possession of firearms).

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    tinman1 02/12/2009 3:29pm

    Hogwash, Parl The majority of Americans are not against the sale and posession of firearms, they are overwhelmingly FOR it

  • Anonymous 01/19/2009 3:59pm
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    A true democracy or popular vote would be the way it’s meant to be imho.
    It’s really a shame with the current system, that there is usually only an effective choice between 2 nominees, even if both of them are a terrible choice. I’m trying to avoid any kind of slamming here, but I personally know many Christians that are also pro gun, so I’m having a hard time seeing the point of that arguement. In general I understand what you are trying to convey, things would change quite a bit more often, but I think that’s what we need. We would most certainly learn from our mistakes.

  • Anonymous 01/23/2009 8:53am
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    Dems are removing term limits and term limits for the President, Obama. President for life.

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    smsumme 02/03/2009 12:26pm

    Exactly. Removing term limits, abolish electoral college (even in Texas metro areas are Blue) and keep the same guy in as long as you need while ignoring rural areas. I guess the thing to do after that is to see the number of registered Democrats vs. registered Republicans and see what might happen. I know alot of people don’t like the EC and it isn’t perfect, but it does more than we might think. Once you get rid of something, it could be hard to get back!

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    1776IS2009 07/03/2009 1:23pm

    Not only for president but they want to also for Senators and Congressmen/women

  • Logic 01/25/2009 10:19am
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    In my opinion, the electoral college should not exist. I hope this bill gets somewhere. Various polls and statistics over the years have suggested that over 60% of Americans favor a direct vote. The electoral college is an example of an indirect vote. With the electoral college, you would have candidates with a lesser popular vote inaugurated as President (and this has happened). In my findings, I have learned that the electoral college was formed, among other reasons, in order to provide for an informed election of a President, when the citizens did not know much about their candidates and therefore would make uninformed decisions. This is no longer the case. It is the fault of the person if they do not research their vote in this day and age.

    The electoral college should undoubtedly be abolished.

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    Anonymous 02/10/2009 10:10am

    The EC was formed for many reasons. You only stated one. One of the most important reasons is to limit the effects of voter fraud (currently, if 100 million extra votes are casted in California, it only effects the outcome of their electoral count and doesn’t dramatically skew the entire election). It also makes it harder for a charismatic leader to manipulate the population into essentially electing him for life.

    Most people are highly uneducated as to why the EC exists. I suggest reading the Federalist Papers if you wonder why we have it, and why we should keep it.

  • Anonymous 01/26/2009 5:26pm

    there was a time in place for the electral college, ut that time has since passed and the original prupose has been turned into a plitically biased system. we not only have the technology today to cast an imediate vote, but also to have an informed public should they choose to take the time and learn about the issues and candidates.

    it’s time to remove an unneed layer between the people and their government.

    make those people get real jobs.

    Molon Label – live free

  • mld96 01/29/2009 6:47am

    I like the electoral college as the founders saw value in it as it empowers the states more. I do wish electoral votes were divided in a state according to the states popular vote rather than winning all of the votes. Some states do this. I wish more would consider it.

  • smsumme 02/03/2009 12:23pm

    I read Article II Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution and pretty much get out of it that the States elect the President by way of electoral votes. Of course those EVs are done by popular vote. Does it say anywhere in the Constitution that the popular vote elects the President? I think the electoral college helps out rural areas the most and keeps the U.S. from having a dominating majority. There may be areas where it can be tweaked but I don’t think it should be abolished. The populated areas of the U.S. would be the main targets for politicians and the rural areas would be left out.

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    ivan5322 07/05/2009 11:25am

    Yes, because the last thing that we want for out nation is for it to be a democracy.

  • hank 02/10/2009 3:40am

    Keep the electoral college, repeal winner-takes-all. A direct popular vote allows the masses to be swayed, and empowers the cities.

  • kenj0418 02/11/2009 5:59pm

    The electoral college does three things
    1) it keeps Florida-2000-style shenanigans confined to just hotly contested states
    2) limits the influence of widely slanted states, which limits the ability of corruption in one state from slanting the overall results. (i.e dead people voting in Chicago would have no result nationally, since Illinois was going Democratic anyway)
    3) Gives representation to small states disproportionate to their population. (This was by design)

    Two of these are always a good thing. The third – I guess your opinion might vary depending on what size state you are from.

  • tinman1 02/12/2009 3:33pm

    The Electoral College is a must for the folks in “flyover country” to have equal representation. Otherwise all presidents would be elected by just those folks on either coast, as that is where the majority of the populace lives. Not coincidentally also where most of those who live off of other’s earnings also live.

  • UserNotLogggedIn 02/12/2009 3:44pm

    Quit screwing with the Constitution.

    It’s not a “living document” to be changed to suit political advantage.

    I know how you calculating SOBs are.
    Give you an inch, you’ll steal the mile.

    Keep your grubmits off my Constitution.

  • Anonymous 02/13/2009 7:19pm

    Wow this is a bad idea. If we remove the Electoral College, the only places anyone would campaign would be in cities. It would be cost prohibitive to actually try to get support from rural areas or potentially even suburbs and so those areas would just have to hope they got to see candidates on TV or something. You could just hit the big cities in a state and then move along. Great for Democrats since their constituents are more clustered in urban areas.

    As tinman1 said, cities are where the majority of low income people are. If you abolish the Electoral College you would be setting us up for a system where the poor have a louder voice in elections, and you better believe they’ll be voting themselves more of your hard earned money.


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