U.S. Congress - H.R.140 Birthright Citizenship Act of 2011
H.R.140 - Birthright Citizenship Act of 2011
To amend section 301 of the Immigration and Nationality Act to clarify those classes of individuals born in the United States who are nationals and citizens of the United States at birth. view all titles (3)
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- Official: To amend section 301 of the Immigration and Nationality Act to clarify those classes of individuals born in the United States who are nationals and citizens of the United States at birth. as introduced.
- Popular: Birthright Citizenship Act of 2011 as introduced.
- Short: Birthright Citizenship Act of 2011 as introduced.
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Man this one is pretty tough. As much as I see that we really need this, I’d hate to be the one tearing families apart, or saying no to people who just want a better life for their kid.
I don’t see a HUGE problem with the “job taking” aspect of immigration, since illegal or not they tend to take the jobs most people don’t want. I don’t want to come off as racist, but who do you often see working on farms, in factories, and other jobs that aren’t too pleasant? Yes, there are always the exceptions. My mother, a white, lower middle class woman, works in a factory. I can tell you that she and a majority of her co-workers (many are of course immigrants) agree with me on this point. When you were last out looking for a job where did you go? I bet that most checked local retail and food businesses for hiring positions. Almost everyone I know goes this route. Many probably would not think of other options unless they DESPERATELY needed the money.
The welfare thing, however, is a major concern.
To what welfare thing are you referring exactly?
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Illegal immigrants are here is because there is a market for their work. The American worker has gotten smarter and no longer is willing to work menial jobs for such low pay. Immigrants don’t come here for shits and giggles. They come here because Americans are willing to pay them to work. The reality of the situation is that this is what the market has decided. Immigration law needs to reflect this reality.
Such low pay is a result of supply and demand and these illegal immigrants coming here. Think about it. Supply of cheap workers inrease, wages go down. People are not working in these jobs because illegal immigrants are here. Also, Americans are willing to work menial jobs. We have zoo keepers, people who clean sewers, construction workers, gardeners, etc, who are not illegal immigrants. besides, a lot of these illegal immigrants will work in construction, a job that many people who are here legally would be willing to do, if the wages were not so low.
Also, if the market decided to discriminate against black people, and all other minorities, you wouldn’t oppose, right? the markets would have decided it! We need our laws to reflect this reality if it happened, right? Yet, MLK and Americans (well, the non-rascist ones) opposed this.
First of all two wrongs do not make it right. It is illegal to hire illegal immigrants as well.
Second, your logic flies in the face of what is currently happening in the U.S. 90% of our manufacturing jobs and 75% of the “service industry” has ALREADY been sent overseas. Public sector jobs are disappearing as essential services disappear and Walker and his ilk are successfully forcing union workers to take wage CUTS. If cheap “illegal” labor was not available here in the U.S. the so-called “job creators” would figure out a way to move even more jobs overseas. Then they would go to their buddies in Congress and get an exemption to the new immigration laws to allow them to import certain kinds of “essential” cheap foreign labor legally so that they could keep their already obscene profit margins intact.
U.S. Citizens include everyone born in the United States, as well as person born abroad to U.S. citizen parents, or who immigrated to the United States and became “naturalized” U.S. citizens. It also includes people who “derive” U.S. citizenship through a parent or grandparent.
One cannot change the description of a citizen simply because we do not care for a particular race of people.
Individuals naturalized even if classified in a contrary manner can still be parents to CITIZENS once their children are born in the USA.
If the bill is passed, then maybe it should be retroactive to 1945 and see which side of the fence many would end up.
I guarantee you, if the U.S. deported all the illegals they caught, secured the border and eventually there were no more, you can bet your bottom dollar companies who exploit these people would find other ways to fill those positions. Such as lobbing congress for tax incentives to employ school kids, older people and the like. Rather than Uncle Sam sending out so many unemployment checks, give incentives to companies who push to and hire the unemployed. You can bet fast food, packing companies and produce growers can be very inventive if they had to.
It would be a win win for all, even the illegal, they then can go home and make their country better. We could employ many more citizens and save us a boat load of money.
This bill would not split families. It would keep more of them together as they could all be deported at the same time and thus stay together in their own country as they would have been in the first place.
Our laws don’t split families, those who break them do!
Our laws don’t split families, those who break them do!
Negating the 14th Amendment is not the way to fix immigration.
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Your metaphor is a non-equivalency.
How is this not equal? It is the same thing on a personal scale. The illegals come in, illeagally, and have children that are being protected because they are “citizens”. Not right.
It’s not equal at all. Being born in a building doesn’t mean you’re a member of the family. The United States is more than just a place where a bunch of people happen to be. The people who would lose citizenship by this bill would be BORN here. How can you refuse citizenship to someone who has been in this country from birth?
It’s not a question of negating the 14th amendment as much as giving it further meaning. The Citizenship Clause of the 14th amendment was meant to give freed slaves citizenship since the Dred Scott v Sanford supreme court case ruled that African Americans could not be citizens. It had no basis in immigration. Just a clarification.
2) Citizenship-by-birth, explicitly guaranteed in the 14th Amendment, can only be negated through constitutional amendment. This bill seeks to redefine the targets which citizenship by birth is granted to, outlined in section 301 of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965. It’s redefinition of citizenship status, via birth, within the jurisdiction of the United States, directly conflicts with Section 1 in the 14th Amendment.
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.
Clarifying it would……….
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This proposed legislation is Constitutional finding authority under “Article 1 Section 8, To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization”. Complies with the spirit of legislation passed in 1790’s by the founding fathers.
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So, if this passes, all of you should be sent back to Europe. The first few presidents were born on England-controlled land. I am a legal resident, soon to be a citizen, and my illegal immigrant wife will have US babies. So bite me, and deal with it.
The only reason you have this attitude is because you and your wife are already breaking the law. It is easier to look the other way if something will personally affect you, in this case it will definitely affect you. I personally find your attitude disgusting and selfish. It is people like you that do not deserve to be US Citizens as you have no respect for the laws of this country.
You are LEGAL. That is the whole point! So bite yourself. LEGAL! Nothing wrong with LEGAL! Illegal is where the problem is. I was born to a LEGAL citizen of the us, so I will go NOWHERE! No need to turn acceptable debate into personal attacks. If you can’t handle the conversation, don’t read the texts.
First of all, it should be you who gets send back to europe because you do nothing, you only sit around while illegal immigrants do your dirty jobs!
Second of all, if this bill gets passed families will get separated and children may get separated from their parents
And third of all, you should really think this over, imagine that you are an illegal immigrant and you came here for a better life, and all of a sudden they kick you OUT, LOWLIFE!!!
The choices I make affect my family. I am responsible for how my actions affect my children. If I make good choices but try to carry them out illegally, my children will suffer. As a citizen I am held accountable and no one is going to look the other way if I don’t follow the law. Why should I look the other way for illegal parents whose choices to enter our country by breaking the rules comes back to bite their children?
I look at some of the immigrants households in my area – within the same household some adults are legal and others are not? Why? How can some follow the process with no problem and others not? Could it be there is some reason those in the household that are illegal would not pass our requirements?
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