H.R.3012 - Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act

To amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to eliminate the per-country numerical limitation for employment-based immigrants, to increase the per-country numerical limitation for family-sponsored immigrants, and for other purposes. view all titles (4)

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  • Official: To amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to eliminate the per-country numerical limitation for employment-based immigrants, to increase the per-country numerical limitation for family-sponsored immigrants, and for other purposes. as introduced.
  • Short: Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act as introduced.
  • Short: Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2011 as reported to house.
  • Short: Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2011 as passed house.

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octavius_20 11/07/2011 7:25pm

Support this bill folks. Here’s an analogy of what you’re going to fix if you pass this bill:

Telling a highly skilled immigrant that they have to wait several decades longer because of national origin is no different than telling a black man that he has to wait several hours longer to get into a restaurant because of the color of his skin. This bill will fix the system so that highly skilled immigrants get judged on the skills, qualifications, and accomplishments they bring to this country. US employers don’t discriminate by national origin and neither should the US employment-based immigration system. Support this bill.

rahulkimmi 10/28/2011 9:59am

This is a right step in the right direction after so long! There are countless bright and hardworking immigrants from India and China who pay taxes and contribute to the economy but are left unsettled by the status of their green cards just because of the country of the origin. I know of many people who are stuck with their employers and cannot get promotion or a salary raise while the person from another immigrant country does not have to go through this because they get their green cards faster. Imagine the plight of the person who has to go to India/china for some family emergency but still has to go through the visa stamping process and if the US consulate rejects he is stuck there. These are issues that a lot of people outside of the India/China immigrant community has not probably dealt with. This bill is a long time due…please support and pass this bill!!!

nextgenimmi 11/08/2011 12:23pm
in reply to vishalbalchandani Oct 28, 2011 8:05am

vishalbalchandani – That’s complete baloney ;). This bill is trying to clear the existing backlog in a phased manner. These folks already have jobs.Sure, diversity is always needed and is very important. So using that very same argument, why is there a preference for medical graduates? Why do foreign-born medical graduates have different laws? Do you not need engineers?

As someone mentioned earlier in these blogs, there’s a diversity category that takes care of this. India/China are not eligible for this category.

But again I wonder, you don’t mind folks driving cabs in NewYork, who might get there using the very same diversity program. But you mind folks getting their green-cards(in an expedited fashion) who already have jobs?

nextgenimmi 11/08/2011 12:42pm
in reply to vishalbalchandani Oct 28, 2011 9:37am

There’s something called a L-visa. For the last few years US-consulates have become much stricter and are asking overseas corporations to bring-in folks on a L1-visa. Many corps(goog/msft/jpmc/ibm/etc) get their folks on L1.

Going forward, H1-B should be issued only to folks who have graduated here in the US. Period. And green cards should be alloted to those same incumbents who have had jobs for atleast 3 years etc. Look at the bill proposed by Sen Schummer et al.

But this is for future work. Not for us who are in the queue for 5+ years.

In future please do your homework before posting red herring comments here ;).

goksam 11/23/2011 8:22am

This bill freezes the processing of applicants of the other 185+ countries for the next 3 years so that Indian applicants (the most backlogged) can catch up. As per the recent visa bulletin Employment Based category 3 (EB3 : one that requires a bachelors degree) from India have been in line for 9 years while the rest of the world EB3 have been waiting for 5-6 years. This bill will be retroactively award India and China applicants 85% of the pie and leave only 15% for all other countries. So all the other 185+ countries applicants WILL pay (by being tagged an additional 4 years wait) because India and China is overrepresented. This bill bites hard to all the other countries!!! Why 85%? Why not 60%? India and China already gets the unused visas from the rest of the world.

Proponents of this bill compare apples to oranges by comparing EB2 category from other countries to the heavily backlogged EB3 of India thus confusing people.

India and China benefits ALL other countries loose = FAIR

venna 12/01/2011 10:10am

I want to buy a house but cannot because i am from a backlogged countries,I know many people who wants to buy houses cannot becuase they are uncertain about their future and are waiting for more than 6 to 7 years.

aispaul 10/20/2011 12:08pm

Employer doesn’t care which country you are from, they care what the person can do to improve the company’s productivity and increase their profits. The bottom line is Talent! Talent !! and Talent!!!

geeaarpee 10/20/2011 2:29pm

I support this bill. Have been waiting in the queue for more than 6 years, country of birth shouldn’t be a barrier for this.

bayboy007 10/21/2011 8:16pm

I am surprised how this “quota based on country of origin” in employment category has managed to exist in the law for so long. Can employers limit hiring based on “country of origin”? If not, then no other law related to employment should have this limit.

dalars 10/21/2011 8:35pm
in reply to stanthecaddy Oct 15, 2011 7:51pm

This bill is to bring in IT techs and engineers and scientists from India and Pakistan, who speak and read our language but earn HALF of what we do!
Train Americans to do it.
Help them move to where the work IS!

pragms 10/21/2011 9:06am
in reply to stanthecaddy Oct 15, 2011 7:51pm

The employment category is based on skill not based on country; the barrier doesn’t make sense at all.

mseker 10/21/2011 2:08pm

Sorry I am not supporting this one. It only benefits EB3-I and would retrogress all other categories. I voted against it.

pragms 10/21/2011 9:08am
in reply to waitingfgc Oct 20, 2011 12:55pm

In same situation, thanks to Rep who is fighting for us like.

jgeo 10/26/2011 1:29pm
in reply to LegalEB Oct 21, 2011 9:10pm

This is a Great Bill and FAIR! It will grant visas to those who have been waiting for 10 years or more. Why should someone who emigrated recently get Green card ahead of a person who is here legally for more than 10 years? Just because that person is from a smaller country or within quota restrictions? time to change the Archaic rules. This BILL is very FAIR.

justcheck 10/26/2011 4:20pm
in reply to dalars Oct 21, 2011 8:40pm

Give those people the freedom to choose employers and move around in the country at will and the wage discrepancy, if there is any, would go out. This bill supports your idea. No body wants less money for the same amount of work. support this bill.

debug 10/27/2011 6:00pm

With millions of unemployed Americans why do we need to flood the job market with more cheap foreign workers. Help Americans, your citizens first before foreigners.

rahulkimmi 10/28/2011 10:00am

Country of origin should have no place in an employment based immigration system. It’s surprising that this discrimination has been going on for so long. Employers care about skills and merit, not where you were born. It’s about time these country limits are removed!

DrGeneNelson 03/21/2012 1:52am

Look at the big money that is attempting to procure passage of this bill. One pair of names that jumps out is Microsoft and their proxy, the Business Software Alliance. If this bill passes, populous nations such as India and China will dominate employment-based green cards. What this bill does is to make H-1B Visas from China or India worth more, since a key incentive is U.S. citizenship, which employers like Microsoft are monetizing for immigrants. Of course, the millions of Americans whose technology careers are trashed by the importation of hordes of “fresh young blood” are ignored by the elites. At the root of this legislation is political corruption. See my 2007 report, The Greedy Gates Immigration Gambit and my 2005 report American Colleges Have Become Career Destruction Factories You will learn that corrupt lobbyist Jack A. Abramoff & his team were hired by Microsoft in 1994. Let’s put Americans back to work. NO to HR3012 !

SamFriend 11/29/2011 3:25pm

The modified speech:

“Let us not wallow in the valley of despair, I say to you today, my friends.

And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal (regardless of their race, origin etc.).”

I have a dream that one day on the silicon valley, all the talents from all countries will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood solving our nation’s critical problems, helping humanity along with our fellow U.S. Citizens.

I have a dream that our children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged for the employment by the country of their birth but by the content of their character, talents, and skills.

I have a dream today! This is our hope, & this is the faith that I go back to the Washington with."

bumba2001 11/14/2011 12:31pm

I support H.R. 3012: Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act. I came to this country in 2000 and applied GC in 2004. Due to heavy backlog of my country I guess I would get the GC in 2021, a wait of 18 years for me to get the GC. This is completely unfair. This bill would remove this discrepancy and allocate visas on first come first serve basis. I thank Rep. Jason Chaffetz and all the other co-sponsors for introducing this bill.

deepakdewangan123 10/18/2011 12:44am

Logically this bill does not make sense.
Employment based green cards accounts for a tiny fraction of all green cards issued every year.
People waiting for employment based green card should not be differentiated on the basis of their birth of their country.

octavius_20 11/08/2011 1:53am
in reply to Lzoccoli Oct 27, 2011 1:03pm

Lzoccoli – your assessment of this bill is wrong. The quota for employment-based immigrants makes up no more than 15% of the total legal immigrant quota. The other 85% still has “per country limits” to maintain “diversity” of incoming immigrants. All this bill does is removes the per country limit for the employment-based immigration category (again, that category is less than 15% of the total legal immigrant quota). So as such, this bill will eliminate the discrimination by national origin of employment-based immigrants without adversely impacting overall “diversity” of incoming immigrants. If you don’t understand the math, I’d recommend visualizing a pie chart and applying what I have said above.

ak_gumpina 10/31/2011 5:32pm

For people who are opposing, I am just one of many examples of how unfair the current system is. 12th year in this country, 9th year in green card queue and still 5 to 10 years to go before I see my green card.

This bill is very simple. No changes to limits, No changes to requirements, No No to discrimination. This bill simply implements “Queue = First Come First Serve” rule while issuing Employment based Green Cards. By the way, how come a Korean or Finnish employee with same skills set be more valuable than an Indian or Chinese employee? Companies always say they are equal opportunity employer.

All of those who are waiting in the queue are very high skilled, highly educated, and highly paid “legal” workers working for biggest and brightest companies here in the US.

PASS the bill ASAP.

rmdu 11/24/2011 5:46am

End racism now!

This is about first come first serve and not discriminate talents based on their birth origin. VOTE YES and PASS H.R. 3012.

dalars 10/21/2011 8:40pm

This is a BAD bill folks. This is NOT to get in the worlds smartest scientist or the worlds best anything!
They can get in easily enough!

If you have a unique skill, visa is practically instant.
These are Indian engineers, IT workers, other tech industries that want CHEAP labour. They work for half what we do!
GOP help the corporations again!

nextgenimmi 11/06/2011 8:36am
in reply to PaulSiraisi Oct 23, 2011 8:07pm

country we like better? Again, marines flushed out oSama from which country? please get your facts straight. Talk to any employer and they will tell you that their hiring criteria is strictly based on merits. Just so you know, the guys waiting in green-card queue already have jobs. Remember the two young graduates from IIT,India that cracked the prime-number(in deterministic time) defactoring algorithm. Point us to one noble-worthy ideas from ‘countries you like better’?

PaulSiraisi 10/23/2011 8:03pm

Per-country caps are our way of controlling what our culture becomes. This is poorly appreciated. I think the US has a right to have an opinion on what values are being brought in. I have no a priori problem with any particular set of values or raising cap levels for any particular country. But I think the caps should remain available for our use. Removing them entirely is a nonsensical jettisoning of a useful control. Why do it?

PaulSiraisi 10/23/2011 8:07pm
in reply to greatlabs Oct 18, 2011 5:20pm

If the skills, talent and education are the same, then why is it unfair if we take someone from a country we like better?

icab 10/25/2011 8:16am

I’m writing to express my opposition to this bill. I believe the overall idea of the US allowing foreign immigrant workers to work in the United States is 1) fulfill the shortage of highly-skilled employees in various sectors and, equally important, 2) to bring further knowledge and culture from different parts of the world into the US. Given that this bill does not change the number of visas available, it will maintain goal #1 while hindering goal #2. Only a very limited number of countries will benefit from this while a very large majority of countries will be negatively impacted. Please do not support this bill.

ashishyaduka 10/21/2011 2:29pm
in reply to waitingfgc Oct 20, 2011 12:55pm

There are many like you my friends. I will buy one house to live and another vacation timeshare house tomorrow if I have the GC. There are 3 other friends of mine who are in the same boat. Passing of this bill will give a significant jolt to the economy.


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