Visa numbers/statistics speak louder than words

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Please support this bill.
To better assist you in pitching our case, I have posted some more high-level data after mining the raw-format posted by USCIS. I used a simple computer program to arrive at the numbers.

Before we look at the numbers, here’s some USCIS lingo.
1) The public data(PERM application) posted by USCIS contains Certified/Withdrawn/Denied PERM status.
2) Public data does not mention the class(EB1/EB2/EB3) of the applications. But that’s ok. We just want to get a feel of the per-country statistics.
3) PERM application – This is the first stage in the green-card process.

I am only running numbers from year 2007 – 2010. 4 years worth of data is plenty to get a good feel of the current state of affairs.

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So how do you propose a check and balance to prevent body shopping companies from applying for a immigrant visa for every Tom Dick & Harry and not clogging up the pipeline for people from their country of origin?

Please support and pass this bill. It is high time that we give all the due rights to the skilled workers who are helping to improve the economy of this country.

Good point. People who work for those body shops typically are low quality. Have their Labor Certifications denied and approve Labor Certifications only for those who have received STEM degrees from well reputed US universities or are directly employed by well-reputed US companies. Besides, I’d imagine that immigrants that slip through the crack from body shops will be in the minority. I do agree though that there should be a check and balance against body shopping for Green Cards, but it should not prevent this bill, which will benefit mostly legit highly skilled immigrants, from passing. Just make the Labor Certification process tougher so that body-shopping companies can’t get their bodies through.

Visa numbers/statistics speak louder than words

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As the economy dipped, so did the overall applications. Which does make sense.

From the data above, notice how applications from ROW (rest of the world – Mexico/Philipines/Canada/UK/Taiwan/Poland/etc) are so miniscule that they wouldn’t have to wait in line for the next 5-10 years. And why do I say 5-10 years? That’s because it’s like a credit history. If someone has not been defaulting (on their payments) for the last 10 years then there’s a good probability that they would not default again. Simple mathematical model that we use everyday.

So putting everything together, H.R. 3012 truly helps is clearing the existing backlog of green-cards. And that too in a phased manner. It does not use a big hammer approach. Period. In addition to that, going forward, it brings a fair rule – first-come-first-serve basis. Which does make sense.

Thanks for your time.
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Though it is illegal to discriminate based on national origin en employment, employment based green card system discriminates based on country of origin. This hurts US competitiveness as applicants from certain countries has to wait up to 70 years because they are born in a particular country. This bill removes the country limit in employment based green card system giving green cards based on “first come first serve” basis.

The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) is responsible for enforcing federal laws that make it illegal to discriminate against a job applicant or an employee because of the person’s race, color, religion, sex (including pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information. —http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/index.cfm

This bill is designed to give green cards to applicants based on skill on a first come first serve basis. Country caps have no place in employment or employment based immigration. This bill does not add a single visa number to the system.

This bill also increases the country cap from 7% to 15% without increasing a
single visa number. This will be helpful to lot of family based immigrants who are separated from their loved ones.

In addition to making it easier on applicants, it makes America more competitive and upholds american values.

Thanks for introducing this simple but sensible bill.

Who said you cannot buy house and car. Don’t be stupid

“Many professionals from India and China working in US, invest their savings abroad as they are not sure if they can ever get a GreenCard in near future. Most of them don’t even buy a house in US as they are not sure about their immigration status. Anyway we are hiring them, why not use their savings to stimulate our economy by providing them permanent resident status so that they can invest in US with confidence.” Pls support HR3012.

When we deal in getting highly qualified talent from all across the world, rightfully we do not put country based quota on H1B visa or other visa.
That way we make sure we get brightest talents coming to USA irrespective of there country of origin. Then why can we not treat them equally and fairly, and not based on there country of origin when we are giving them employment based Green card.
Please remove country based quota and support HR3012, so that we can retain the talent pool here in USA.

Please vote NO.

Simply put, this bill does not solve the employment based immigration retrogression issue. This bill is basically just moving the problem from the left pocket to the right pocket. HR 3012 will only takes green cards from ROW (Rest of the World) and give them to immigrants from India. Further, this bill will only benefit people from India with older priority dates, Indians with newer priority date will still have to wait many many years.

In the end it’s just gonna be 15 years waiting for A, 14 years waiting for B and on and on.

This bill is about spreading pain and not about solving issue. Please vote NO.

What we need is visa recapture for employment based green cards.

I am sorry, but I have to tell you that you are totally wrong. Green cards under EB are only given to immediate family. There is no possible way to get green cards for parents, brothers, sister and their families.

The same applies to work visa (H1B/L1) also. Only the applicant and his/her immediate family can come to US.

What do you say to the US Citizen that wants that house? In his OWN country!
Go home. Go FUCK yourself.

In 5 years that person becomes a citizen and guess what happens then…

It is a “Occupy US” movement led by only Indians, hurting all other immigrants (probably not Chinese).

Essentially, it is an issue about the definition of fairness. Companies should treat all individual employees equally, but should the States treat other countries equally?

In addition, green cards do not affect employment status too much. It is H1-B visa’s business.

mr bobbymm:
why invest in a house if the residency card isn’t approved? If for whatever reason the green-card doesn’t get approved then the individual will have to go back to his/her home-country. Guess what will happen to that home-loan then? DEFAULT. Which we don’t want to happen :).

389:15. The house just passed the bill! Thanks to everyone who supported this bill!

Dear Senators,

Please support this bill on the senate floor.

thanks

YOu understanding is wrong,This bill only removes the country limitation and treat people from all the countries same irrespective of what country they are from and which is fair and not biased .This bill does not increase or decrease the number of GC’s given per a year.