H.R.104 - To establish a national commission on presidential war powers and civil liberties.

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  • Official: To establish a national commission on presidential war powers and civil liberties. as introduced.

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Kickmongwi 08/09/2010 11:56am
in reply to americanmuscle Jul 31, 2009 1:00pm

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. – Benjamin Franklin

cmstever 11/07/2009 12:08am
in reply to BudWiser Jul 21, 2009 10:57pm

sad but true

cmstever 11/07/2009 12:07am
in reply to Blessed88008 Jun 12, 2009 2:43pm

is that how we treat crime in this country? can a murderer use that excuse in court, forget the past? What crime has ACORN committed, besides registering poor people to vote(which is their true crime)? if were gonna prosecute organization how about BLACKWATER who turns a blind eye when employees actually gang rape female employees. although investigating the FED sounds like a good idea.

cmstever 11/07/2009 12:01am
in reply to Bud9342 Jun 01, 2009 9:39am

reckless spending is not a crime. torturing American citizens, and stealing executive power, on the other hand, is. To my knowledge has yet to commit a crime in office, but if he did i have a feeling you would be singing my song, and i would sing it with you.

cmstever 11/06/2009 11:57pm
in reply to Chillster1912 Oct 13, 2009 12:00pm

you don’t actually think he kept us safe, do you? Clinton defiantly needs to be investigated, Obama has not been in office for more than a year what are you talking about. they don’t have to be angles they just have to up hold the laws made by congress.

If bush raped someone would the call for his prosecution still be partisan BS?

cmstever 11/06/2009 11:52pm
in reply to pramsey Aug 10, 2009 2:27pm

your right any politician who does or did anything that Bush did should be prosecuted.

cmstever 11/06/2009 11:48pm
in reply to sethlenara May 05, 2009 8:09pm

interrogation, sure, and rape is just enhanced love making. what you fail to understand is that Americans were kidnapped and sent to other countries to be tortured. its called extraordinary rendition. and it goes far beyond torture he showed no regard for the bill of rights, and that is the most severe crime that can be committed in this country, and it would be “moronic” to let that slide.

cmstever 11/06/2009 11:41pm
in reply to thorvaldr May 05, 2009 7:08am

yeah who wants to prosecute criminals. politicians are above such things.

baldeagle 11/05/2009 5:12am
in reply to americanmuscle Jul 31, 2009 1:00pm

I noticed that you did not capitalize obama’s name. If that was not a typo I agree with you. I think all this looking back and blaming, and Bush hating is just another way for the libs to deflect attention for the things they are trying to do. I think maybe people are starting to wake up. Just hope it is in time. Virginia and New Jersey are a good start. If we think of it more as Conservative vs liberal instead of Republican vs democrat maybe we can turn this country around moving forward instead of looking back.

Chillster1912 10/13/2009 12:00pm
in reply to pramsey Aug 10, 2009 2:27pm

I am tired of this obsession with Bush.. I beat Gore and he beat Kerry fair and square. These people that are sitting here expressing there 1st amendment rights should openly thank GW for keeping us safe. If you have nothing to hide why worry about it! I do not see anyone calling for investigations of Clinton, or Obama. Believe me neither one of these guys is an angel! This partison BS is not helping anyone. Focus on what is at hand.

b58 09/21/2009 4:03am

We have a house devided against it’s self. We have a bunch of 60’s hippies in office that are liberals socialist and they are anti war anti america and they don’t care for the safety of this country or the security and mainly they don’t care what the people thinks. The war against terrorist was voted on by the congress and approved. Now we have a bunch of anti war group trying to make it a former presidents fault. We just don’t want terrorist setting bombs off in our streets everywhere and Bush kept that from happening and I hope his policies keeps it from ever happening ever. If you don’t like the policies that has kept us safe then I don’t think anyone would stop you if you left this country and never came back.

FallenMorgan 09/16/2009 12:37pm

The President certainly has inflated his war powers over the years. Thank John Yoo for that, among others.

KISS 08/30/2009 12:39pm

The Dems stood behind Bush when they were scared of ‘terrorists’ and attack him in spite of the fact the surge in Iraq succeeded! Cowardly hypocrites back this ridiculous wasteful bill. I’m sure Dems were told by CIA about aggresive interrogations in advance, and terrorists who hate Americans were not tortured. Bush is not perfect, he’s human. I disagreed with Congress who voted to go to War in Iraq, but supported my President and our troops. I felt proud to be an American. In history, Bush will be remembered for his leadership, his integrity, standing up for his beliefs, and for keeping Americans safer. Even those cowards who do not deserve protections and do not appreciate American men and women’s sacrafices. President Obama is right about one thing by instructing his Admin to look forward, not backward. The fact his Administration of Dems are not influenced means Hillary was right…he doesn’t have the right stuff to lead this country. America has no leader.

LDishman 08/29/2009 9:56pm

Our CIA needs to be left alone so they might do their jobs, they are being treated like they actually cut someones fingers off. Obama seems to want everyone investigated but we don’t even know who HE is. He has 2 different names and sealaed records.

b58 08/26/2009 8:41pm

When is anyone going to investigate Obama and Pelosi and Reid for the intent of taking over the country with their socialist views. They have thrown this country into bankruptcy and still in a out of cntrol spending. They have taken control of the banks and car builders and now our health care.Obama has been going to the muslim and islam countries kissing up to them and the dictators of south America.At the sametime he talks down our country to them. One thing about Bush he kept this country safe and no more attacks on us. He did not sell us out or talk against our country. By the way everything Bush did in the war against the terrorist was approved by congress and the senate whether they admitt it or not. Obama and his cronnies has yet to tell the truth about anything since they have been in office. Pelosi is running neck and neck on lies with Obama.

ArmyMason 08/26/2009 8:13pm

At the same time I think Congress should be investigated. Nancy Pelosi knew about the water boarding and lied about not knowing. If you are going to charge Bush you better go after Congress too.

Templar 08/20/2009 12:40pm

First of all our constitution does not apply to enemy combatants whether in a uniform or not. I was a Marine. If you shoot at me, or attack me in any way then you are an enemy combatant.
Second. Everyone was so outraged by the 9/11 attacks. Everyone wanted payback. We couldn’t let them get away with it. Now everyone is against the war on terror and demanding and end to it. That is why terrorists win. They strike and move. They use tactics that most Americans don’t have the stomach to use. I say oppose this bill and let the CIA and armed forces do anything they see fit to stop attacks on America and other peaceful countries. So what if a few taliban are tortured? 3000 suffered and died on 9/11. How many orphans are there from that day?

AbePena 08/17/2009 4:11am

the question to be asked is “when” will this commission be used? I feel if passed that the president should only have power to declare war if Congress has voted and it was undecided, and the vice president who is neutral incongress makes the declaration of a stalemate. All prospects and limits should be inplace. and limited war powers should be declared.

Basically, the president may enter us into a war, but it would be congress who removes us from any war. A presidentially declared war should only be immediately if the war is on our lands or territories as historically deemed. But once the situation is contained and diplomatic efforts are in place then the war should be halted. That doesn’t mean letting guard down, but we should only fight wars on our lands. Not in other countries.Assisting in wars should NOT be a presidiential previlege, it should be decided by council and limits should be in place before any soldier is sent to assist. There has to be oversight, and accountability

vrbahs 08/14/2009 7:28pm

I am neither an elephant or a jack ass and I would agree that this is a great bill and a wonderful thing to do if and only if the investigation is expanded to include every administration that has held power since the preidental war powers act was enacted including the current one. The Patriot Act in particular is an abomination and a blatant abuse of civil liberties and the current administration thought so too that is until it took over the oval office.

piratessoul 08/13/2009 8:48am

Anything with more than one head is a monster. We vote in a guy that we think will make the best decisions for our country then, when he doesn’t do things just right, we launch a witch hunt at the expense of the taxpayers?

I am not on board. When our current President is out of office, I will not seek to punish him for bankrupting America. I’ll just be glad he’s gone.

thedestiney 08/11/2009 7:45pm
in reply to saintc Feb 15, 2009 8:56am

I completely agree. It is very important to hold the President accountable for his actions. I can’t believe people disagree with this bill. At worst, they will conclude that the Bush administration was innocent, but it will not be wasted time. It will demonstrate that we are a country that holds the constitution very highly. It will be a benefit to this country to have a commission on Presidential powers in the future.

thedestiney 08/11/2009 7:39pm
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in reply to b58 Jun 18, 2009 10:09pm

I can not believe that you are serious about this. There are no facts supporting your cause! He released a birth certificate, before he ran. The Hawaiian government supports it, even with his birth in a newspaper. Professionals have observed his birth certificate, and said that it was legal. You think you know more that these people? I find this very interesting that nobody has any problem with the birth certificate of any white president. It becomes a problem when we have a half African American president who is proud of his family. It’s sad that so many people believe in this conspiracy theory. I can’t wait until years from now when you will look silly.

pramsey 08/10/2009 2:27pm
in reply to sethlenara May 05, 2009 8:09pm

I agree, from what I remember this was passed through Congress and they agreed, until it was politically convenient to change their tune. Lets fix the problems we have by cleaning house, both houses of congress and both sides of the isle. 21+ years Navy/Navy Reserve has taught me one thing. You can only believe half of what a career politician says in public and none of what they say in private. In either case, stand by until they change their mind. Like the weather in New England, If you don’t like it right now, wait a few minutes, it will change!

mazdastuff 08/09/2009 8:06pm

How to cure what ails us! Do Not Re-Elect any imcumbents. Stop with all the Left side, Right side, Up side or Down side. Stop with the Blue the Red, the Pink the Green, or whatever color is tied to some cause or crusade. Career Politicians are what ails all of US. “We The People” are the cure. If someone does a great job and they serve their term, then they can go forth into the world knowing they contributed. And that’s where it stops.

b58 08/07/2009 10:45pm

This is the most worthless bill that anyone would waste time or paper on. Sounds like we have Washington full of the anti war hippies from the 60’s in office. First off Bush had full support of congress and senate on the war against the terrorist until they decided it was not an 24 hour war and they started backing out one by one and now they want to play the blame game and accuse him of everything that they can think of even lies they thought up.Maybe we need to investigate this administration for the lies about raising taxes and the bank and auto and healthcare take overs and trying to turn this country socialist marxist nation. They have also thrown this country in debt for several trillon dollars in six months of this administration . Where is the bill against that happening.

rattso12 08/04/2009 5:55pm

I wonder if Conyers read his own bill??

rables 08/03/2009 9:27pm
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in reply to americanmuscle Jul 31, 2009 1:00pm

Churchill made the decision to not torture German officers despite the fact London was being bombed. He refused to compromise his principles. We should investigate whether Bush and Cheney compromised our principles (and broke the law) or not.

rables 08/03/2009 9:24pm
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I urge everyone to support this bill, as it is important to show the world that we are a country that honors the rule of law. We should show the international community and future generations of Americans that we will not allow those who break the law to go unpunished, even if crimes were committed by the President or the Vice-President. We deserve to know the truth, and we demand to know the truth. We need to demonstrate that we do not agree that we should compromise our values for our security. Thank you for your consideration.

americanmuscle 07/31/2009 1:00pm

You have to be kidding me. I am a conservative and a soldier, even though I did not agree with all of President Bush’s policies I pretty much agreed with most of his national security policies. The funny thing is the only place obama has been successful since he has been in office is where he has kept Bush’s policies in place. obama said the surge in Iraq would not work and it did. Now he is starting a surge in Afgahnistan, funny isn’t it. Bush did all he could to keep this country safe and he did a mighty fine job at it. You need to use any and all means to catch and kill this type of enemy because they will use any means to kill us. I know I have seen and fought them. Mark my words, in 10 years President Bush will be looked upon as one of the greatest men to sit in office. Churchill went through this same bull durning his time now we look back at him in a great way. So we need this nonsense to stop.

garrettwilkin 07/25/2009 6:48pm
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We need to show that the people in our administration who used torture are not supported by the American people. This is the only way that we can hope that any of our soldiers who are captured by our enemies will not be tortured. Information given under torture has been shown to be faulty since those being tortured will likely tell you anything in order to get the torture to stop. We need to set consequences for those that allowed these policies to persist in order to assure that torture will not be a part of our policy in the future.


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