H.R.3012 - Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act

To amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to eliminate the per-country numerical limitation for employment-based immigrants, to increase the per-country numerical limitation for family-sponsored immigrants, and for other purposes. view all titles (4)

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  • Official: To amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to eliminate the per-country numerical limitation for employment-based immigrants, to increase the per-country numerical limitation for family-sponsored immigrants, and for other purposes. as introduced.
  • Short: Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act as introduced.
  • Short: Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2011 as reported to house.
  • Short: Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2011 as passed house.

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  • SamFriend 11/11/2011 7:20pm

    (Continued from previous post…)

    (4) These high skilled workers will be working (because, that is how they get Green Card) legally in US. Most of these works have high-salaried jobs like more than $65K per annum, meaning, US would be immediately getting source of Tax Income and SSN income to fix our short-term deficit problems. It will not that big of amount, but would be much better than borrowing these small amounts from other countries and then making our citizens to pay for it, at high interest.
    (5) These high-skilled workers would be surely buying home, bcoz majority or almost all of them are middle-age with family and working, so home—buying would go and so as our real-estate.
    (6) These high-skilled people would not be burden at all — they would be in fact our customers for buying consumables + luxury items for their own life. This would add sales tax + other sales revenue.

    (Continued in next post…)

  • SamFriend 11/11/2011 7:20pm

    (Continued from previous post…)

    (7) These entire spending spree from them would encourage our economy, which then would / could create other jobs for many others, including US citizens.
    (8) Immigrants leave their home, their roots etc to come to US, so they come with dream — dream like inventing Google, Facebook, and so many other companies which is now fueling our country’s growth.

    This doesn’t need any smart brain to understand … Why we would want to delay any idea which would fix our own problem, in a way, and can give us good credibility? Why would we want to delay welcoming these talents, and that too, based on their origin !! Time for us to take sensible actions … by passing this H.R. 3012 bill. .. and many other similar bill supporting Legal and talented Immigrants helping our country.

    God Bless United Sates of America.

    (End of the Post)

  • bumba2001 11/14/2011 12:31pm

    I support H.R. 3012: Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act. I came to this country in 2000 and applied GC in 2004. Due to heavy backlog of my country I guess I would get the GC in 2021, a wait of 18 years for me to get the GC. This is completely unfair. This bill would remove this discrepancy and allocate visas on first come first serve basis. I thank Rep. Jason Chaffetz and all the other co-sponsors for introducing this bill.

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  • goksam 11/23/2011 8:22am

    This bill freezes the processing of applicants of the other 185+ countries for the next 3 years so that Indian applicants (the most backlogged) can catch up. As per the recent visa bulletin Employment Based category 3 (EB3 : one that requires a bachelors degree) from India have been in line for 9 years while the rest of the world EB3 have been waiting for 5-6 years. This bill will be retroactively award India and China applicants 85% of the pie and leave only 15% for all other countries. So all the other 185+ countries applicants WILL pay (by being tagged an additional 4 years wait) because India and China is overrepresented. This bill bites hard to all the other countries!!! Why 85%? Why not 60%? India and China already gets the unused visas from the rest of the world.

    Proponents of this bill compare apples to oranges by comparing EB2 category from other countries to the heavily backlogged EB3 of India thus confusing people.

    India and China benefits ALL other countries loose = FAIR

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    nextgenimmi 11/23/2011 1:13pm

    No, this bill doesn’t NOT freeze anything. It attempts to clear the existing backlog i) in a phased manner and ii) in 3 years.

    when you say, “rest of the world EB3 have been waiting for 5-6 years …”, you are conveniently skipping the fact that in the rest-of-the-world(ROW) category, as of now, only Mexico AND PHILIPPINES are backlogged. But they are backlogged only till 2006. While India is backlogged till 2002 and China till 2004.

    And this is precisely the reason why I posted all the statistics in earlier comments. If you are unable to understand those numbers and the reasoning behind it then there’s nothing we can do to, sorry. Again, starting from 2007, your ROW category has applications in 3 digits, literally around 500, every year till 2011. So given this 3 digit number and your 2006 backlog for Mexico/Phil, you can do the math yourself and will realize that your fact-twisting logic falls flat on it’s face.

    First come first served(or a FIFO queue – first in first out) = FAIR.

  • rahulkimmi 11/23/2011 9:09am

    Country of birth does not matter when it comes to skilled immigration. Only skills matter. Countries like India and China who provide most number of skilled immigrants are limited to 7% of the total EB immigrant visas. They are excluded from 93% of visas. That makes no sense from competitive stand point for US. As people from these countries get disappointed with the long wait, they tend to move to their home countries, creating competitors abroad.

    It is in the best interest of US to remove country caps in EB immigration. This bill also increases family bases quota from 7% to 15%. Interesting thing about this bill, it does not add a single visa to the system.

  • nextgenimmi 11/23/2011 1:43pm

    Dear Senators,

    It was clear from yesterday’s Republican debate that everybody (Romney,Newt,Bachmann,Santorum) supported legal immigration. This was in response to a specific question with regards to retaining highly skilled immigrants.

    Immigration doesn’t affect just the mental state but also future aspirations of an individual.Reverse brain drain is yet another angle to it. For more data on reverse brain drain please go to:

    http://www.law.harvard.edu/programs/lwp/people/staffPapers/vivek/Vivek%20Wadhwa%20Immigrants%20and%20Returnees.pdf

    Now taking another angle. Roughly 100,000+(number is under-estimated but stating just to prove the point) highly skilled immigrants haven’t bought a house because they are backlogged.

    Simple math:
    low range :50,000 * $250,000 (minimum cost of the house)
    :$12.5 Billion
    high range:100,000 * $500,000
    :$50+ Billion

    Not trying to sell it this way but should we just ignore this positive cash influx?
    Please support this bill.

    Thanks

  • rmdu 11/24/2011 5:46am

    End racism now!

    This is about first come first serve and not discriminate talents based on their birth origin. VOTE YES and PASS H.R. 3012.

  • SamFriend 11/29/2011 3:23pm

    The modified speech:

    “Let us not wallow in the valley of despair, I say to you today, my friends.

    And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.

    I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal (regardless of their race, origin etc.).”

    I have a dream that one day on the silicon valley, all the talents from India, China will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood solving our nation’s critical problems, helping humanity along with our fellow U.S. Citizens.

    I have a dream that our children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged for the employment by the country of their birth but by the content of their character, talents, and skills.

    I have a dream today! This is our hope, and this is the faith that I go back to the Washington with."

  • SamFriend 11/29/2011 3:25pm

    The modified speech:

    “Let us not wallow in the valley of despair, I say to you today, my friends.

    And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.

    I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal (regardless of their race, origin etc.).”

    I have a dream that one day on the silicon valley, all the talents from all countries will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood solving our nation’s critical problems, helping humanity along with our fellow U.S. Citizens.

    I have a dream that our children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged for the employment by the country of their birth but by the content of their character, talents, and skills.

    I have a dream today! This is our hope, & this is the faith that I go back to the Washington with."

  • nextgenimmi 11/29/2011 6:59pm


    389:15. The house just passed the bill! Thanks to everyone who supported this bill!

    Dear Senators,

    Please support this bill on the senate floor.

    thanks

  • venna 12/01/2011 10:10am

    I want to buy a house but cannot because i am from a backlogged countries,I know many people who wants to buy houses cannot becuase they are uncertain about their future and are waiting for more than 6 to 7 years.

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    ChateauSwan 12/01/2011 7:31pm

    That’s a bad excuse. At least you can sell the house any time if you are going to be deported.

    It is also possible that you will end in a potential accident tomorrow, so that you will never not buy a house on the earth?

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    nextgenimmi 12/02/2011 11:46am

    Sell a house in 2-3 months? wow, you are making it sound like selling a used book-shelf on ebay/craigslist. Oh, by the way to there’s something called life insurance to protect yourself from forseeable accidents.So use a good example to prove your point.

    And your post speaks about your ignorance. There are too many legal implications about changing your state-residence/employer in midst of the process. You seem to be one of those guys who has bloggish knowledge(knowledge gained just by reading blogs) ;).

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    Americafirst 02/01/2012 8:21pm

    What do you say to the US Citizen that wants that house? In his OWN country!
    Go home. Go FUCK yourself.

  • ChateauSwan 12/01/2011 7:25pm

    It is a “Occupy US” movement led by only Indians, hurting all other immigrants (probably not Chinese).

    Essentially, it is an issue about the definition of fairness. Companies should treat all individual employees equally, but should the States treat other countries equally?

    In addition, green cards do not affect employment status too much. It is H1-B visa’s business.

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    nextgenimmi 12/02/2011 12:00pm

    Occupy US? Really? These aren’t FOBs who came here 6 months ago.

    As someone quoted – We are talking about giving green cards to those who are legally in this country. They drive on the same roads as others, pay the same taxes, their children go to the same school as others. All we are talking about is changing their status from temporary to a permanent resident. So where are we losing diversity? About unemployment – giving them a GC does not mean they will take up a new job. They are already working. So the overall employment number remains the same.

    And now if you are complaining about unfairness in the game, where in the world do you think a first-come-first-served(FIFO queue – first in first out) rule is wrong?

    India and China are excluded from the diversity visa (DV) program. The DV folks who come here often rely on welfare benefits. Don’t they hurt our welfare funds? Funds which are actually needed for senior citizens. Why don’t you raise your voice then?

  • ak_gumpina 12/02/2011 4:16pm

    “The Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2011” does not raise the number of visas issued annually, but, by removing the limit on the number of visas issued to individuals from any one country, would begin to reduce the backlog of Indian and Chinese immigrants who currently have longer waiting times than other nationalities. Not coincidently, immigrants from these countries hail from the two most populous nations in the world, with economies that have risen as global competitors over the last decade. They also have some of the highest levels of educational attainment and income among immigrants in the United States. Bottom line: the migrants who would most benefit from this bill are viewed as the cream of the crop.

  • Sasikiranr 12/02/2011 10:24pm

    it is great and Quite OK if Indians and Chinese wait 12 years. Not OK if Australians and Europeans do. Another inventive reason to discriminate. This is getting better. This creativity at least suggests that the initial “discrimination” argument has fallen flat.

  • rajgauravtiwari 12/27/2011 11:52am

    Understandable people respond negatively to such a critical bill at a time for record unemployment. However, American economy is slowly but surely recuperating and with the recent string of reformist measures in Europe – 2012 is looking like much more pragmatic and less risky place. I’m confident US unemployment will drop to 5-6 % by July 2012.
    However, every month delayed on this bill is excruciating especially for those with High talents and skills and who are contributing hugely to the American Intellectual and Competition industry in high skilled jobs! Waiting a decade on a lifeline is something that is impossible for someone not on such a wait created artifically longer because of per-country limits!

    Imagine not being able to purchase your own house for years because you dont know when you’re time is up during the long wait for the Green Card! I do hope Senator Chuck Grassley looks beyond his viewpoint – this bill doesnt increase the core numbers – there’s no danger to US jobs.

  • 4candid 01/11/2012 11:06pm

    “Many professionals from India and China working in US, invest their savings abroad as they are not sure if they can ever get a GreenCard in near future. Most of them don’t even buy a house in US as they are not sure about their immigration status. Anyway we are hiring them, why not use their savings to stimulate our economy by providing them permanent resident status so that they can invest in US with confidence.” Pls support HR3012.

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    jpauche 01/12/2012 4:04pm

    What about the H1B fraud that indian consultant firms are doing. People dont even have jobs but they file the H1B and sponsor them in EB2. How can we stop that? Why do we need more fraud Indian people and stop people from rest of the world coming to US.

  • Americafirst 02/01/2012 8:19pm

    The last thing AMERICA needs is MORE FOREIGN SCUM in USA. We cant seem to get rid of the FOREIGN CRIMINALS we have now!! We sure as hell dont need more of them! We lose 80,000 USA jobs per month to the legal foreigners alone!
    My citizenship matters! When it does not – its civil war time!

    New law- any US citizen can take a foreigners job at any time.

  • DrGeneNelson 03/21/2012 1:52am

    Look at the big money that is attempting to procure passage of this bill. One pair of names that jumps out is Microsoft and their proxy, the Business Software Alliance. If this bill passes, populous nations such as India and China will dominate employment-based green cards. What this bill does is to make H-1B Visas from China or India worth more, since a key incentive is U.S. citizenship, which employers like Microsoft are monetizing for immigrants. Of course, the millions of Americans whose technology careers are trashed by the importation of hordes of “fresh young blood” are ignored by the elites. At the root of this legislation is political corruption. See my 2007 report, The Greedy Gates Immigration Gambit and my 2005 report American Colleges Have Become Career Destruction Factories You will learn that corrupt lobbyist Jack A. Abramoff & his team were hired by Microsoft in 1994. Let’s put Americans back to work. NO to HR3012 !

  • DrGeneNelson 03/21/2012 2:26am

    Some posters made false claims that immigration law protects the career interests of American citizen technical professionals. Here is a powerful rebuttal:
    Scamming Immigration Attorneys at Cohen & Grigsby (C&G) Screen Out Americans

    This has become an incredibly popular video. There have been 408,299 views since June 16, 2007. Remember this is a video summary of C&G’s 2007 immigration presentation. Also, as the Department of Labor Strategic Plan Fiscal Years 2006-2011, available for download from Scribd.com, notes on pages 34-35, these protections do NOT apply to American workers being displaced by H-1Bs about 99% of the time. The employer can force the departing US worker to train their replacement as a condition of receiving their meager outplacement benefit. More than 37 million work visa admissions in just 5 high-skill programs between 1975-2010. The consequence is that millions of Americans are impoverished – Some die prematurely.

  • NOHR3012 06/25/2012 2:28am

    Lies spread by HR 3012 proponents:
    - India/China only gets 7% employment visa:
    WRONG! Every year India alone gets 21-22% visas- because unused visas from other categories fall in their pocket.
    - HR 3012 reforms the employment based immigration for better:
    WRONG! It practically allocates pretty much all visas to India and China only for the next three years- all other countries will suffer a 6 year additional wait time on the average.
    - Some green card applicants from India may suffer a 70 year waiting period:
    WRONG! The worst category in employment based immigration has a waiting period of 9 years now, which will be further reduced as a direct consequence of the visa spillover rule.
    - HR 3012 will bring fairness to immigration by eliminating country limits:
    WRONG! The bill will be unfair to those from all other countries facing an additional 5/6 years of waiting period.
    The educated workforce diversity will be at stake.

  • sxfx 08/04/2012 4:40am

    The bill eliminates diversity in the skilled immigrant categories. It benefits India and China but is detrimental to immigrants from every other country in the world. For every Indian or Chinese worker who sees their green card wait shortened, an immigrant from Canada, Australia, any European country, Japan, Brazil, Malaysia (the list goes on and on…) will see their wait time correspondingly lengthen.

    China and India, the largest two nations on earth, have enough people to completely overwhelm the immigration system. If HR.3012 passes, immigrants from smaller countries don’t stand a chance.

    This bill is ill-conceived legislation and it deserves to fail.

  • brower 09/24/2012 6:08pm

    This legislation will favor Chinese and Indian workers. I have no issue with such people looking for a better life in the U.S., but as it is now it is at the expense of the American quality of life: such workers are paid significantly less than American counterparts, and are often subject to more over time, being perpetually on call, etc etc.

    Plenty of studies make this transparent. E.g.
    http://www.workpermit.com/news/2005_10_26/us/us_h1b_visa_holders_earn_less.htm

    If any regulation is needed in this area, it is that which gives these workers equal compensation to the Americans they are displacing (whether Americans are entitled to having priority for these jobs is a completely different issue). But if such regulation were on the table, then special interests would no longer contribute $100,000s to the bill’s supporters—instead giving it to their competitors

    Again, the issue is money in politics. The solution is Disclose Act, repeal of Citizens United, Publicly funded Elections.


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