S.843 - Gun Show Background Check Act of 2009

A bill to establish background check procedures for gun shows. view all titles (2)

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  • Official: A bill to establish background check procedures for gun shows. as introduced.
  • Short: Gun Show Background Check Act of 2009 as introduced.

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pramsey 07/13/2010 7:46am

Why is sale of firearms at a gun SHOW any different than sale of firearms at gun SHOPS? Although this bill does require fees to be paid to (someone) as determined by the Attorney General and requires all organizers, planners, promoters, or operaters involved be registered with the Attorney General….. what is this bill really doing? Please put this in PLAIN ENGLISH for me!!!

onorgaisse 07/01/2010 6:36pm
in reply to pcfixer May 21, 2009 5:33am

I’m glad you posted those stats, pcfixer. The problem here is that those who are pushing for these bills to go through will do everything possible to suppress or disavow what is clearly on the record.

onorgaisse 07/01/2010 6:34pm
in reply to MACitizenPatriot May 11, 2010 5:05pm

MACitizenPatriot,

This is word-for-word the same exact post you made in the H.R. 2324 thread. I find your “stance” suspect, and the cut-and-paste answers disingenuous.

As for this bill (as well as the one in the House…I’m not going to repeat myself there…), the stats contradict what groups like Mayors Against Illegal Guns and such are trying to push. I personally do not support this bill, and believe that the politicians and the law enforcement entities in this great nation of ours need to concentrate more on identifying the illegal outlets where criminals get their guns from. Going after legal and licensed vendors will not solve the problem and frustrate law-abiding citizens overall.

MACitizenPatriot 05/11/2010 5:05pm
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I think the legislation is reasonable and provides a rational means of keeping track of gun transactions at transient events like gun shows. No one is prohibited from buying or selling. It does not seem to be excessive and the negative reaction in these comments appears to unfounded. I strongly believe in the second amendment and gun owner rights and am not disturbed by reasonable controls and reporting.

pcfixer 05/22/2009 4:13am

The worst part of this Bill, family members couldn’t will or give
sons, grandson or other family members their heirloom guns without going thru a FFL and transfer ownership! Think of the nightmare that would create in government burocracy!

pcfixer 05/21/2009 5:33am

Most importantly, H.R. 2324 ignores the real problem—multiple government studies prove gun shows are not a source of “crime guns.”

The Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) report “Firearms Use by Offenders” found that less than 1% of U.S. “crime guns” come from gun shows. This 2001 study was based on interviews with 18,000 prison inmates and is the largest such study ever conducted by the government.
The BJS study is consistent with previous federal studies. A 2000 BJS study, “Federal Firearms Offenders, 1992-98,” found only 1.7% of federal prison inmates obtained their gun from a gun show. Similarly, a National Institute of Justice 1997 study, “Homicide in Eight U.S. Cities,” reported less than 2% of criminal guns come from gun shows.

pcfixer 05/21/2009 5:30am
in reply to shooter Apr 23, 2009 12:33pm

The Castle gun show bill (H.R. 2324) shares many unacceptable provisions with S. 843, but in key areas goes even further. Despite changes from the Lautenberg juvenile justice amendment of 1999 that it is based on, this bill fails to address gun owners` most significant concerns—and in several areas is even more restrictive than Lautengberg`s current bill, S. 843.

helmofs 05/16/2009 5:32am

Typical of democrat’s idea of legislating a problem – point #9 is totally fallacious in that it claims that illegal gun possession is “exarcerbated by gun shows” and I would like to see PROOF of the claim in point #10. This bill sounds honorable enough by its short name but seeks to punish the gun show vendor and gun show sponsor. It does NOTHING to address the fact the CRIMINAL who knowingly presents false identity papers, etc. NO TO THIS SHODDY EXCUSE FOR GUN CONTROL!

thorvaldr 05/10/2009 7:42am

FBI statistics show that very few crime guns come from gun shows. This is just another set of rules meant to intimidate and harrass legal gun purchasers and sellers. It has no possibility of reducing crime. Check out H.R. 2324. It’s more of the same. How long are the American people supposed to put up with people who can’t understand a simple phrase like “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed”?

freebird 04/25/2009 4:07am

another piece of garbage, compliments of the senators who think they know what is right for free America.Whoever reads this put in your search windows “veterans disamament bill”the site is very good and will open your eyes even further.Take a look at this bills sponsorship,all are the ones who are trying to change this country toward socialism.

Militia1897 04/24/2009 5:52pm

Hopefully more people will get wind of this piece of garbage. Same goes for H.R. 45.

shooter 04/23/2009 12:33pm

Here we go, folks. Will anyone be surprised that this is the first step to outlawing private sales, no matter where that sale may take place, even neighbor to neighbor or among family members? Just remember, gun control is population control.


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