2008-01-17T21:28:12Z opencongress.org tag:opencongress.org,2007:/bill/comments/45722 2008-01-17T21:28:12Z tag:opencongress.org,2008-01-17:/comment/269 bruceh The bill summary uses the terms "radicalization" and "violent." Does anyone know how the bill defines those terms? At one time, labor unions, womens' suffrage, ending segregation, and opposing the Vietnam War were all seen as "radical" ideas. If a strike picket line tries to block scabs, is that "violence" as defined by this bill? At one time non-violent sit-ins at segregated lunch counters were accused of violence against the property rights of the owners, is spray-painting "polluter" on the wall of a chemical plant violence as defined by this bill? 2008-01-14T13:06:04Z tag:opencongress.org,2008-01-14:/comment/132 Anonymous this bill must be stopped or at the very least the word FORCE needs to be defined!! STOP THIS BILL!!!!!! 2008-06-17T09:13:13Z tag:opencongress.org,2008-06-17:/comment/25919 Anonymous I just want everyone to know something, due to the fact that we live in a surgar coated world with our mp3's and our pc and our high speed internet and cable we our selves have turned a blind eye on the government and by doing this we are now to late in trying to stop them. For example let a leaky faucet leak and next thing you know your whole house is flooded and you r screwed, you see this is what happened. Kennedy tryed warning you Ron Paul tryed to warn you Alex Jones tryed to warn you micheal moore tryed to warn you and what did we do as a nation we flipped on the next episode of the simple life or listened to a new song. We did it to our selves and now unless we wake up right now and i mean right now we are going to have to live with it and if that happens we are all screwed feel free to e-mail me joshuasefton21@yahoo.com my english writing might not be that well but i do know what im talking about !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2008-06-17T09:11:53Z tag:opencongress.org,2008-06-17:/comment/25918 Anonymous I just want everyone to know something, due to the fact that we live in a surgar coated world with our mp3's and our pc and our high speed internet and cable we our selves have turned a blind eye on the government and by doing this we are now to late in trying to stop them. For example let a leaky faucet leak and next thing you know your whole house is flooded and you r screwed, you see this is what happened. Kennedy tryed warning you Ron Paul tryed to warn you Alex Jones tryed to warn you micheal moore tryed to warn you and what did we do as a nation we flipped on the next episode of the simple life or listened to a new song. We did it to our selves and now unless we wake up right now and i mean right now we are going to have to live with it and if that happens we are all screwed feel free to e-mail me juoshuasefton21@yahoo.com my english writing might not be that well but i do know what im talking about !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2008-01-16T12:59:13Z tag:opencongress.org,2008-01-16:/comment/219 textdog it's so important that people are aware of bills and what they entail because many bills really do govern our lives. those who have been innocent victims know this best. laws shouldn't necessarily be made to rule out the extremes of any given situation, but should make sense according to how most of us live and want to be able to live. 2008-01-21T18:26:17Z tag:opencongress.org,2008-01-21:/comment/342 textdog `(3) HOMEGROWN TERRORISM- The term `homegrown terrorism' means the use, planned use, or threatened use, of force or violence by a group or individual born, raised, or based and operating primarily within the United States or any possession of the United States to intimidate or coerce the United States government, the civilian population of the United States, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives. 2008-01-21T18:25:48Z tag:opencongress.org,2008-01-21:/comment/340 textdog the definitions seem broad regardless of there being one. this comes from the bill text: `(2) VIOLENT RADICALIZATION- The term `violent radicalization' means the process of adopting or promoting an extremist belief system for the purpose of facilitating ideologically based violence to advance political, religious, or social change. 2008-01-21T18:26:52Z tag:opencongress.org,2008-01-21:/comment/343 textdog `(4) IDEOLOGICALLY BASED VIOLENCE- The term `ideologically based violence' means the use, planned use, or threatened use of force or violence by a group or individual to promote the group or individual's political, religious, or social beliefs. 2008-01-20T21:29:30Z tag:opencongress.org,2008-01-20:/comment/323 skrap This bill is unnecessary. Most forms of violent protest are already illegal, as are vandalism, and conspiracy to incite any of the above. Why must we label these things as terrorism? Not to mention that this bill blames the internet for "providing access to broad and constant streams of terrorist-related propaganda to United States citizens." You might as well blame cars for transporting terrorists, or the air for providing oxygen. 2008-01-21T18:25:52Z tag:opencongress.org,2008-01-21:/comment/341 textdog the definitions seem broad regardless of there being one. this comes from the bill text: `(2) VIOLENT RADICALIZATION- The term `violent radicalization' means the process of adopting or promoting an extremist belief system for the purpose of facilitating ideologically based violence to advance political, religious, or social change. 2008-01-28T12:52:13Z tag:opencongress.org,2008-01-28:/comment/511 meagain0101 This bill makes a mockery of what our country is supposed to stand for. I watched these hearings on the hill. Jane Harmon needs to go. 2008-02-12T00:25:44Z tag:opencongress.org,2008-02-12:/comment/761 idonttrustyou fuck this bill 2008-02-22T23:39:19Z tag:opencongress.org,2008-02-22:/comment/1066 wasaka I encourage everyone to watch the google video of Ron Paul discusses the U.S. economy with Mike Maloney of GoldSilver.com here is the link: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2962369311366680572&hl=en 2008-02-22T23:42:07Z tag:opencongress.org,2008-02-22:/comment/1067 wasaka Now We Know Why There’s A Press Blackout On S 1959 - It’s Called "ENDGAME" By Dept of Homeland Security (DHS). http://justanothercoverup.com/?p=356 2008-02-27T02:41:25Z tag:opencongress.org,2008-02-27:/comment/1314 wjcormier It's also interesting to note that even though S 1959 is still in committee, parts of it are already being implemented - funding for which was appropriated by the House. No Senate approval, but the bill goes forward anyway - likely to be brought to the floor when they believe it won't be noticed. Luckily, with the SF Chronicle breaking the silence on S 1959 and DHS's EndGame, millions of Americans are now aware of - and voicing their outrage and demanding answers on the implications of this odious legislation. Nevertheless, parts of the Bill are already being implemented - and this is a matter that we need to melt the Congressional phones lines with constant demands for its end if we expect to make a difference. Evidence and substantiation that the Bill is already being implemented: http://justanothercoverup.com/?p=389 William Cormier 2008-03-04T23:48:11Z tag:opencongress.org,2008-03-04:/comment/2309 Anonymous Please take a close examination of the characters behind this bill, as I have. I hate to make this about race, but these are the facts: they are all Jews, Israelis or Zionists with strong ties to quasi-governmental think-tanks, Israeli intelligence fronts, or Jewish Non-Profit organiations. http://undertheradarmedia.blogspot.com/2008/02/violent-radicalisation-and-homegrown.html 2008-01-14T17:45:39Z tag:opencongress.org,2008-01-14:/comment/144 gravelution08 If this bill were to become a law, Americans run the risk of losing many of their civil liberties and rights granted by the Bill Of Rights. This must be stopped. 2008-01-17T16:19:35Z tag:opencongress.org,2008-01-17:/comment/260 Curtis I am NOT a terrorist! 2008-04-02T20:26:39Z tag:opencongress.org,2008-04-02:/comment/4002 c4xfire It figures that the fascists are shoving their adgenda to the hilt near the end of their rule. Like rats deserting a sinking ship they want to assure their future game cloaked in secrecy.Why don't they have to pay for the damage they've done? This is ,once again, real terrorism! Hopefully like everything bush and his crooked accomplices touch,It will also turn to sh*t.... 2008-04-22T09:10:43Z tag:opencongress.org,2008-04-22:/comment/8994 pxrassassin Facism is making its way to America. This bill gives the government all the power it needs to do whatever it wants. "The term `violent radicalization' means the process of adopting or promoting an extremist belief system for the purpose of facilitating ideologically based violence to advance political, religious, or social change." This is quoted directly from the text. The government determines what "violent radicalization" really is. The extremmist beliefs are any beliefs other than their own. You might as well start saying "Hail Bush!"