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  <title>Open Congress : Comments on H.R.2454  American Clean Energy And Security Act of 2009</title>
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  <updated>2009-11-20T19:26:53Z</updated>
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    <name>opencongress.org</name>
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  <id>tag:opencongress.org,2007:/bill/comments/57656</id>
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    <title>New comment by rcmyer</title>
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    <updated>2009-11-20T19:26:53Z</updated>
    <id>tag:opencongress.org,2009-11-20:/comment/170689</id>
    <author>
      <name>rcmyer</name>
    </author>
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Global Warming is a Hoax! Information is spreading like a wildfire in the blogosphere regarding the University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit (CRU) hacked email files. If true, this astonishing information will uncover the scientific fraud that many have suspected.
See:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8370282.stm

and
http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/2009/11/hadley-hacked.html

Some excerpts from the second site:
&quot;There's an email from American climate scientist Tom Wigley advising Professor Jones how to manipulate some data to emphasise warming trends.&quot;
&quot;..another from Jones in which he tells a colleague that he's used the same &quot;trick&quot; as Michael Mann (Mr Hockey Stick) &quot;to hide the decline&quot;, and in yet another he calls the reported death of a climate sceptic &quot;cheering news&quot;.

To be sure, more details will be revealed in the coming days, but if you ever needed a reason to doubt the global warming hoax this is it. Its time for Congress to wake up and kill these bills.    </content>
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  <entry>
    <title>New comment by Betonavette</title>
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    <updated>2009-11-17T14:10:29Z</updated>
    <id>tag:opencongress.org,2009-11-17:/comment/169273</id>
    <author>
      <name>Betonavette</name>
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This moronic bill should just be labeled:  &quot;Cap &amp; Tax&quot; because that is all that it will lead to.  What a joke!  Making big government.....bigger!    </content>
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    <title>New comment by bkrueg</title>
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    <updated>2009-11-13T11:12:02Z</updated>
    <id>tag:opencongress.org,2009-11-13:/comment/167692</id>
    <author>
      <name>bkrueg</name>
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After spending binge, White House says it will focus on deficits.
Democratic lobbyist Steve Elmendorf says the White House focus on deficit reduction could easily kill the cap-and-trade effort. &#8220;I think this means cap-and-trade has to go to the backburner,&#8221; he said.
By MIKE ALLEN &amp; JIM VANDEHEI | 11/13/09    </content>
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    <title>New comment by missrachelkate</title>
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    <updated>2009-08-25T17:15:51Z</updated>
    <id>tag:opencongress.org,2009-08-25:/comment/121318</id>
    <author>
      <name>missrachelkate</name>
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Costs for power/fuel always go up: gasoline. Some people deny that humans cause climate change; I refuse to even dignify that with a response. What this bill aims to do is take THE 1st STEP toward environmental responsibility. Who cares about the economy if we can't go outside without gas masks, or no longer have access to clean drinking water? Ever thought about how much money and resources are used just to CLEAN UP waste and byproducts already being created by our current industrial, and residential, processes? It may cost a lot of money UPFRONT to do the right thing, but a rational person can't deny that we have to start somewhere, making eco-friendly decisions (or not) does have a global impact, and what this bill proposes will not always have a high cost if we start NOW. Obviously just asking people to make environmentally responsible decisions and companies to create less harmful products doesn't work, or we wouldn't be faced with so many environmental travesties today.    </content>
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    <title>New comment by Defend1</title>
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    <updated>2009-09-04T16:24:05Z</updated>
    <id>tag:opencongress.org,2009-09-04:/comment/123186</id>
    <author>
      <name>Defend1</name>
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Wow, it amazes me how afraid people are of change.  The terrible things predicted to happen due to the introduction of the American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 are going to happen anyway.  Taxes will rise, jobs will be lost and stupid people will remain in the dark.  The average cost to the typical household will be 20 cents a day to start investing in responsible, renewable energy that needs to be in place before we run out of fossil fuels. I believe in sound business ideas and working toward a better future for all people so 20 cents a day and a chance to get an environmentally friendly job sound like a good idea to me.  Support a Bill that serves a purpose and actually read the whatever it is you have already formed a strong opinion of, instead of taking mine or anybody else's word for it.    </content>
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    <title>New comment by jackvfb</title>
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    <updated>2009-11-11T21:59:46Z</updated>
    <id>tag:opencongress.org,2009-11-11:/comment/167117</id>
    <author>
      <name>jackvfb</name>
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Renewable energy is the best thing our government and citizens can invest in. It is a much better investment than GM.    </content>
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    <title>New comment by jrista</title>
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    <updated>2009-10-30T14:04:37Z</updated>
    <id>tag:opencongress.org,2009-10-30:/comment/157249</id>
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      <name>jrista</name>
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There is no stagnation, its stabilization. Thats the crux of the argument AGAINST investing in the demonstrably LOW return in renewable energy sources. Coal is a tried and true, PRODUCTIVE, and these days 99.7% clean energy source (c&amp;t plans from the 90s reduced toxic emissions nearly completely, the remainder has no detrimental effect on the environment overall.) Spending hundreds of billions on sources of energy that have SIGNIFICANTLY lower return while making it harder and MORE expensive to produce energy from proven sources like coal and oil, do nothing but create a drain on our economy while having a net zero effect on global temperatures. The only significant force on earth that affects global temperatures is the sun, and the only significant effect on that input energy is the albedo of the earth. Why &quot;create&quot; jobs in a market that is so fragile and weak it will increase costs enough to put many, many other businesses out of business (loosing just as many, if not more, jobs)?    </content>
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    <title>New comment by jrista</title>
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    <updated>2009-10-30T14:10:49Z</updated>
    <id>tag:opencongress.org,2009-10-30:/comment/157256</id>
    <author>
      <name>jrista</name>
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Of all &quot;greenhouse&quot; gasses, Carbon Dioxide is the weakest by orders of magnitude. The only truly significant &quot;greenhouse gas&quot; is water vapor, providing over 95% of the net effect. Carbon dioxide has about 0.12% effect overall, with other atmospheric aerosols such as Methane and other black-bodies combining to cover the other 5%. Global temperatures are primarily driven by energy input from the sun, and the only thing that has any significant effect on that input energy is the albedo (reflectance) of the earth. (Of which there is tremendous evidence...do a couple web searches.) The highest temperatures on record since 1945 were in 1997, and global temperatures according to aggregated data since then have been on a DECLINE, not an increase. Also note that the &quot;predictions&quot; of global warming conformists are orders of magnitude off from actual data.    </content>
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    <title>New comment by ClaudeLemieux</title>
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    <updated>2009-10-06T09:54:25Z</updated>
    <id>tag:opencongress.org,2009-10-06:/comment/135674</id>
    <author>
      <name>ClaudeLemieux</name>
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Climate Change has never existed as it does now in the history of our planet earth; Never has the rate of change occurred so fast, and never has man caused such change, until now. This is not a normal process, this is an abnormal catastrophe caused by the amount of greenhouse gas we produced. But we CAN curb the change, by cutting our greenhouse gas emissions!
 In Tennessee it is expected to get much hotter and as a result of climate change, and the people of Tennessee are expected to suffer massive heat waves, like the ones that killed thousands in Europe several years ago. Tennessee is also expected to have increased flooding like that wich we have seen recently in several midwestern states. Fisheries, and Forests are expected to suffer as well when temperatures rise, replacing hardwoods with pines and scrubs.    </content>
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    <title>New comment by ClaudeLemieux</title>
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    <updated>2009-10-06T09:44:42Z</updated>
    <id>tag:opencongress.org,2009-10-06:/comment/135664</id>
    <author>
      <name>ClaudeLemieux</name>
    </author>
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Take away the subsidies and handouts that the Coal, gas, oil and Nuclear receive and add their externalities and your looking at true burden that the American people cannot carry. It's not like these Industries are creating jobs -which renewable energy will- they're losing them! Over the past quarter century the Coal Industry has axed 20 percent of thir workforce and increased productivity by 50%! They don't need people! Meanwhile the manufacture of renewable energy plants and the workforce needed to run them will create millions of jobs for our economy. If you don't change you stagnate, and that is exactly what has happened to our economy. 
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    <title>New comment by jackvfb</title>
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    <updated>2009-11-11T21:54:39Z</updated>
    <id>tag:opencongress.org,2009-11-11:/comment/167116</id>
    <author>
      <name>jackvfb</name>
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Energy is in very high demand. It is consumed by all Americans.    </content>
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    <title>New comment by DianaAmerican</title>
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    <updated>2009-11-11T16:30:54Z</updated>
    <id>tag:opencongress.org,2009-11-11:/comment/166992</id>
    <author>
      <name>DianaAmerican</name>
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Americans had better wake up SOON! Fight now for Drill Here Drill Now! &quot;Fight for the farmers to have water for crops or we will have no food&quot;. &quot;Fight for our FREEDOM, or it will be gone!    Do you really want a Government to control the Energy you use, the Food you eat, the water you drink, the Healthcare you can have, how much money you can earn, the banks were you put your money, the company you work for, the kind of vehicle you drive or don't drive, where you can live, where you can go?????? If this is how you want it, then go live in a Communist Country, they have it ALL!    </content>
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    <title>New comment by DianaAmerican</title>
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    <updated>2009-11-11T16:18:57Z</updated>
    <id>tag:opencongress.org,2009-11-11:/comment/166991</id>
    <author>
      <name>DianaAmerican</name>
    </author>
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&quot;Global Warming&quot;, oops, now called &quot;Climate Change&quot; is not true! Think about it they had to change the name, simply because the weather was no longer supporting their &quot;LIES&quot;. The EPA is controlled by the United Nations, which is totally Un-Constitutional! Real Science Experts, &quot;Not&quot; associated with the United Nations state this is Not True! It was funny to them many years ago when they set the stage for global warming and they have been lying ever since. They are giving away our Freedom for a One World Government and they will control us with energy and food shortages. It is &quot;Time&quot; to Stop trhem Now!    </content>
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    <title>New comment by jen_georgia</title>
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    <updated>2009-11-09T18:25:14Z</updated>
    <id>tag:opencongress.org,2009-11-09:/comment/166120</id>
    <author>
      <name>jen_georgia</name>
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i agree! co2 polluting the earth! how crazy are they! i agree they are trying to make us a socialist government and its sad! we have to stand up for our rights!      </content>
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    <title>New comment by Su100TD</title>
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    <updated>2009-09-18T16:27:27Z</updated>
    <id>tag:opencongress.org,2009-09-18:/comment/127794</id>
    <author>
      <name>Su100TD</name>
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The socialists/communist pass this bill this will kill what is left of the economy.  How can Co2 be a polutent?  If it was how could trees and plants grow?  This will add 900-1200 to ones energy bill a year.  How will this create jobs?  If one read the recent report about Spain and its green sector, one will find for every 1 green job created 2 jobs are lost in other sectores.  In other words, it is a job killer.  Plus, if it wasn't for massive subsidies from the taxpayer, these technologies would die.  THEY ARE NOT COMPETITIVE WITH THE FREE MARKET.  This is a boondoggle.  For you environment wackos, how do you explain the dalton and maunder minimum? There where no sun spot activity. Why is Greenland named, Greenland?  When Leaf Erikson discoved in 1000 ad it was green with trees.  The sun guides our weather, not some cow passing co2 or you driving your SUV.  The greatist green house gass is water vapor.  We should ban water than.  One should listen Vaclav Klaus, this is communism.    </content>
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    <title>New comment by jen_georgia</title>
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    <updated>2009-11-09T18:22:55Z</updated>
    <id>tag:opencongress.org,2009-11-09:/comment/166118</id>
    <author>
      <name>jen_georgia</name>
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unbelievable!! all this talk about pollution and everything. i believe in picking up your trash, not littering and all that but do these people think about how the whole world gives off a whole 1% of pollution to the atmosphere! and that there is no such thing as global warming!! climate changes all the time and has been for years and will for years to come so why make up all these stupid bills to make the american people have to pay tax on stupid crap! like carbon dioxide! hello!! the trees plants and pretty lil flowers live off carbon dioxide! look it up! why dont they listen to the scientists! all this clean air dont pollute with co2 is stupid our surroundings need it to live and why should we have to pay triple our electric as if its not high enough already! this who thing is crazy just like the health care reform that is guna make our country go to hell if we keep letting this stuff pass! we are slowly turning into a socialist government and its so scary! :(    </content>
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    <title>New comment by Middleclassmidwest</title>
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    <updated>2009-11-05T10:43:56Z</updated>
    <id>tag:opencongress.org,2009-11-05:/comment/163241</id>
    <author>
      <name>Middleclassmidwest</name>
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I've heard mid November or around the 11th of November.
None bills in Congress are meant to accomplish what they say they are going to accomplish.  There are always ulterior motives and this on is extremely dangerous to the United States of America.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddQvhdCyhe4

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    <title>New comment by lolmao500</title>
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    <updated>2009-11-03T23:05:15Z</updated>
    <id>tag:opencongress.org,2009-11-03:/comment/160948</id>
    <author>
      <name>lolmao500</name>
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So when is it brought to the senate? WHEN IS THE VOTE?    </content>
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    <title>New comment by baldeagle</title>
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    <updated>2009-11-03T22:07:16Z</updated>
    <id>tag:opencongress.org,2009-11-03:/comment/160925</id>
    <author>
      <name>baldeagle</name>
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It is interesting that only 15% of the users on this site support this bill, yet it looks like the house passed it.. Just goes to show how out of touch congress is with the people...We need to vote alot of these nutheads out and get someone with common sense in  the congress..    </content>
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    <title>New comment by justamick</title>
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    <updated>2009-11-03T08:58:20Z</updated>
    <id>tag:opencongress.org,2009-11-03:/comment/159570</id>
    <author>
      <name>justamick</name>
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Wow...     </content>
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