2010-05-06T08:11:26Z opencongress.org tag:opencongress.org,2007:/bill/comments/64139 2010-05-06T08:11:26Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-05-06:/comment/195902 musicman1234 "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" -First Amendment Wether you are a religious person or not, I think it's apparent that mentioning God in the official motto is a violation of the First Amendment, because it is saying that the country as a whole looks to God. They cannot say this, Constitutionally. Separation of church and state is one of the reasons we broke free from England, and it must be enforced now. 2010-05-10T07:27:08Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-05-10:/comment/196200 ENFEMUS @ Herter1 - The constitution exisited before Kent Hovind, Ken Ham, and Jason Lesile. And whoever else you want to associate that has pointed out that Evolution is a religion hiding under the mask of science. No one is against science, but some people out there use it as a way to push their personal agenda on others. 2010-05-10T14:58:34Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-05-10:/comment/196256 ENFEMUS @ Musicman - I fully agree with you. No one is forcing you or anyone to believe in God/ or a god. It is very clear that the founding fathers did believe in God. even in battle reports and letters they use the words: Providence, Holy one, and The Almighty. As much as we don't want to believe it God is deeply rooted in America's History. 2010-07-06T14:16:42Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-07-06:/comment/203483 mexperts Our founding fathers did believe in God. Did they do anything bad? Did it hurt anybody? May be that is the reason why we live in the most developed country in the world. Faith is the half of the success, since it also charges up psychologically. Confidence may break down at some point and you will feel all alone in the whole world. Faith will never let you down unless you abandon it. One last question, If you were in a hostile environment surrounded by dangerous people, and if only one of them was holding a bible in his hand, which one would you approach hoping that you could get some help? 2010-05-12T06:08:00Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-05-12:/comment/196363 BCXtreme If you do your homework, you will find that the phrase "an establishment of religion" means one particular religion. Things that refer to God in a general sense are therefore not a violation of the First Amendment. Otherwise, the Declaration of Independence, every one of the states' constitutions, the National Day of Prayer, "So Help Me God", the prayer opening each session of Congress, etc, is all unconstitutional. No matter how much the Dems want to change it, this country is ruled by the majority and always has been, and the majority, generally speaking, believes in God. 2010-05-12T06:10:20Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-05-12:/comment/196364 BCXtreme So you don't think it takes any faith/trust at all to believe that, BANG, the universe just exploded into existence billions of years ago for no reason at all with no cause at all, and then managed to randomly assemble man for no reason at all with no cause at all? Interesting... 2010-05-06T10:47:09Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-05-06:/comment/195916 vnpbr First we need a definition of which God we trust. It is evident that multiple gods are worshiped in the United States. The congress can give no respect to an establishment of religion. Why not return to e pluribus unum our original motto. Consider this; For "In God We trust" to be a true statement every citizen must trust god. Save the printing and engraving costs this country needs to stop frivolous spending. 2010-05-06T10:48:06Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-05-06:/comment/195917 ENFEMUS The seperation of Church and state means the government can not force only one religion on the people, or prohibt the practice of one said religion. Last time I checked you are free to practice any religion you wish in america. If the governement wants to associate God into the official motto I feel that to be resonable as it does not specify which God. Even though the majority of the population today might believe in evolution you might have a good chance at submiting the motto of "In Natural Selection We Trust" to be considered. 2010-05-06T14:25:30Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-05-06:/comment/195951 Herter1 You've been listening to Kent Hovind again, eh? I don't recommend it. 2010-05-06T10:53:40Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-05-06:/comment/195918 ENFEMUS Just a side note on this issue. The government already violates the Seperation of Church and State becasue they require Evolution to be taught and 5 out of the 6 meanings of evolution are faith based statements. So not only is it required but every peson must pay taxes which help fund the schools that are required to teach evolution. Forcing some that do not believe in evolution to pay for it to be taught to someone elses kids is a direct violation of that law. 2010-05-06T17:01:14Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-05-06:/comment/195976 musicman1234 although it does not specify a God, it says God, which is still a violation of the first amendment. there are many Gods worshiped by citizens of our country, but we cannot forget about the citizens who do not believe in God. 2010-08-02T02:53:45Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-08-02:/comment/208431 DeafAtheist This Resolution is HIGHLY Unconstitutional. It's a violation of the establishment clause of the 1st Amendment. Someone commented saying that the establishment clause refers to one particular religion. This is wrong. It refers to any and all religion. The government has no business telling us we should trust in god. It's oppressive to citizens who don't believe in any gods. Someone else mentioned the National Day of Prayer. That has indeed been declared Unconstitutional in a court case recently. Our country is a Constitutional Republic, not a Christian Theocracy. The Constitution including the Amendments and the Bill of Rights are there to ensure that ALL citizens are treated equally and fairly regardless of what the majority wants. Someone mentioned evolution. The study of evolution is not... let me repeat that for clarity... it is NOT a religion. It is a valid accepted scientific theory about how life adapts to it's environment. Creationism isn't and never will be accepted as valid. 2010-08-02T03:18:12Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-08-02:/comment/208432 DeafAtheist What loaded question dude. You're basically offering your bible brandishing person in this group of hostile people as the only available option. Honestly the person holding the bible is the last one I'd approach. Seriously. I'd look for someone who doesn't appear hostile that isn't holding a bible. 2010-08-02T06:04:00Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-08-02:/comment/208439 DouglasMarston Do some homework yourself, Evolution teaches NOTHING about the origins of the universe, nor the origins of life. Those would be Cosmology and abiogenesis respectively. 2010-08-02T10:29:24Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-08-02:/comment/208445 Kagehi Was some poll recently, only 12% said that "faith" was the most important thing in their lives, 10% said they didn't have any at all. What we have is a fight between the 10% that think this is not appropriate and the 12% that think its **super** important, over an issue the other 78% couldn't care less about. Not surprising we have all of 100 people so far voting, with close to a 50-50 split, but, ironically, the, "we need to keep the one some religious guy made up, because he didn't realize we already had one.", is currently losing by 5%. Oh, and.. For all the "evolution says, is, blah..." types, you might want to read books written by people that study it, not by people who have made it their entire mission to lie about, distort, misrepresent, *and* claim its "just like our sides stuff, so we have every right to appose it." Hint - Even DI accepts the real version, sort of, (what keeps micro from being macro, other than "magic"?), attacking a false version, dressed to look religious.