2010-08-11T02:19:43Z opencongress.org tag:opencongress.org,2007:/bill/comments/65300 2010-08-11T02:19:43Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-08-11:/comment/209284 wbg2271 I can't believe that 28 people think this is a good bill,sorry 29 forgot about Rangel. 2010-08-17T16:41:05Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-08-17:/comment/209611 ianiam εγο ειμι ο δοθλοσ 2010-09-28T21:51:32Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-09-28:/comment/211115 Sal_The_Tiller So has this died in committee? Or is it just taking a long time? 2010-07-26T20:56:28Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-07-26:/comment/207898 RickHeretikos SLAVE BILL 2010-07-27T03:49:17Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-07-27:/comment/207912 daftchemicals This is a bill to make sure everyone of healthy age is across in the Middle East getting blown up, while the illegals take over the USA & reclaim the land (i.e. "North American Union". People between the age of 18-42 do not generally like what our country is turning into, and we are able to stand up for ourselves. This was covered in detail over at Freedomizer Radio (http://www.freedomizerradio.com ) a few times. This is nothing but a huge negative. If the democrats get the Senate and Congress again, I can see this enslavement bill being passed even though 3% of the US might be for it. 2010-07-27T17:09:28Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-07-27:/comment/208005 andoh666 Everyone has their knee-jerk reactions it seems. "Oh my god, this is SLAVERY!" and the like. But, I agree with this bill. It will help countless people and will create more jobs and a sense of national pride that we have all been sorely lacking. Since when has 'Patriot' become a dirty word, anyway? 2010-07-27T19:08:00Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-07-27:/comment/208011 invictusaequitas This bill absurd. Please read the 2 responses I've written above. We must all take personal responsibility and write our representatives. I'm tired of being silent while this government steals my personal liberties. We are becoming a nation all too comfortable with allowing this goverment to overstep its boundaries. They work for us, not the other way around. "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help." Ronald Reagan, the last decent President of this country. 2010-07-27T20:03:21Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-07-27:/comment/208016 superpeople “The guy had been trying to introduce this bill since 2003..... knowing it would never pass. "Rangel himself argued that the point of his bill was to express his opposition to the war in Iraq. In an editorial in The New York Times, Rangel said “if those calling for war knew that their children were likely to be required to serve—and to be placed in harm’s way—there would be more caution and a greater willingness to work with the international community in dealing with Iraq.”” 2010-07-28T06:22:16Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-07-28:/comment/208050 bunbun i wonder if we would get paid for serving. if we were to get paid, i'd much rather support 2 years of service like this than the 2 years of unemployment benefits we just bought. 2010-07-28T06:22:47Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-07-28:/comment/208051 bunbun compulsory service levels the playing field as long as everyone has to do it. i do not believe that hawkish politicians could sell their wars as easily if every single family and household, including their own, was in service. a general draft would make anti-war critiques much more powerful and convincing because we would all be personally affected by waging war. as it stands now it is easy to brush off nay saying tree hugging pacifist stoner hippies because they don't know anything about serving their country. a draft would mobilize a much more pervasive and respected anti-war movement extremely quickly. i wouldn't worry about this passing congress. at the same time you accept the benefits and protections of being a u.s. citizen you have necessarily surrendered a large chunk of your individual sovereignty to the republic and its government. nothing new to see here. 2010-07-28T08:40:50Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-07-28:/comment/208084 Somfbah Will this include illegals? They get our benefits.... just saying. 2010-07-28T11:18:59Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-07-28:/comment/208111 invictusaequitas Tara, Though there is a clause in the bill that essentially seems to protect against this notion, one cannot help wonder how quickly and easily that provision would be laid to waste as soon as the government deems such an act necessary. If they can pass a bill like this, and NOT AZ's SB1070, we're in serious trouble. I concur with what you say here. The founders of this country have to be turning in their graves. 2010-07-28T11:32:29Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-07-28:/comment/208116 invictusaequitas "at the same time you accept the benefits and protections of being a u.s. citizen you have necessarily surrendered a large chunk of your individual sovereignty to the republic and its government" This is unconstitutional and sounds like something Hitler or that nut-job in Iran would say. The government is responsible for protecting its citizenry, in this country specifically, and has no right to and does not own our bodies. Suggesting otherwise is a major flaw. Now, being a relatively reasonable person, I understand that while this ISN'T SUPPOSED to be the case, sadly, doesn't mean that it actually is; I understand entirely what you're saying. 2010-07-28T11:29:21Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-07-28:/comment/208115 invictusaequitas You mean like how those who WILLINGLY sign on to serve in the military are paid? Monetary appeals are moot. This is a question of personal freedoms being ignored and trampled on, yet again, at the whim of government. Funny how a man of Rangel's age berates those who support war and oppose this bill, yet he too is safe from legislation such as this. 2010-07-28T11:34:05Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-07-28:/comment/208117 invictusaequitas LOL I'm almost certain the likes of Rangel and his boys would find a way to make an argument for how only the oppressive white-male majority will be affected by this bill. 2010-07-28T13:10:42Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-07-28:/comment/208134 jemc50 This is an unnecessary bill and a waste of Congress' time. The U.S. already has a Selective Service system for a draft to be reinstated in an emergency. The U.S. already has a multitude of volunteer programs (i.e. Peace Corps, VISTA, etc.). A two year stint in the military would be a huge waste of time and money, since an individual would just be getting to a point of being an asset to the service they would be getting out. 2010-07-29T13:23:22Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-07-29:/comment/208237 vigilant1 I didn't see anything in the text of the bill that said a person would be paid for this service, and even if they were it would just mean more people on the government payroll. This bill would give the President way to much power and too much latitude in how to enforce it. If you disagree with the powers that be you get sent to the front lines, you lick their boots you get a better assignment. Wake up people this is definitely socialism in the making. 2010-07-29T21:10:02Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-07-29:/comment/208259 AliciaBlake How is this bill reconciled with "Don't Ask, Don't Tell?" You can't pass a bill into law that requires service in the armed forces or another branch of the government (ie homeland security and what-not) and then deny gays and lesbiens the option of serving openly. As a vet, I know that I would much rather have an openly gay airman serving next to me than someone who has no desire to put their life on the line for our country and simply is serving the minimum time to meet the legal requirements. We need men and women who are serving our country for the right reasons. 2010-07-30T15:16:04Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-07-30:/comment/208304 kinge48 For all who fail to realize it; which apparently includes Rep. Rangel, this would be involuntary servitude. Why is this such an important distinction to make you ask? Because it is Constitutionally ILLEGAL! I would like to ask Rep. Rangel to read the United States Constitution (you know, that document you swore to uphold when you took office?), specifically the Thirteenth Amendment. To help in this endeavor I'll place it here so it is easy for you (and everyone else) to find: "Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation." Uphold freedom from slavery, and dismiss this unconstitutional bill. 2010-07-30T17:26:39Z tag:opencongress.org,2010-07-30:/comment/208311 jeremia I wonder how those who work in this Three Ring Circus (Schoolhouse Rock was right) -- Executive, Legistlative, and Judicial -- will write themselves and their families out of this one.