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S.1867 National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012, 112th Congress

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  • Latest Action: Dec 01, 2011 See also H.R. 1540.

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  • Committee Assignment: Senate Committee on Armed Services

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  • This bill's most-recent vote occurred on December 01, 2011, with a roll call of 93 ayes, 7 nays, and 0 not voting.

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  • 97% of users oppose S.1867

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    • On November 29, 2011, by bpitas - The problem with this bill (and almost all bills that mention the word "terror", "terrorist", "terrorism", or "war on terror", like the misnamed Patriot Act) is that terrorism is a tactic, not a person or group of people. By a strict definition of "terrorism", some tactics employed by the US army could classify them as a "terrorist organization", but that's not the point. Since "Terrorism" is a tactic, in order to call someone a "terrorist", you need to give that person a fair trial and prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the person in question did in fact use terrorist tactics. Bills like this give the US Government the ability to skip that step and classify someone as a "terrorist" arbitrarily without a fair trial, which is no different than giving the Executive branch the power to call someone a murderer and execute them on the spot. Once you start going down that path, the potential for abuse is catastrophic! Section 1031 needs to be removed.

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      As noted by bpitas, a user on OpenCongress.org, on November 29, 2011, "The problem with this bill (and almost all bills that mention the word "terror", "terrorist", "terrorism", or "war on terror", like the misnamed Patriot Act) is that terrorism is a tactic, not a person or group of people. By a strict definition of "terrorism", some tactics employed by the US army could classify them as a "terrorist organization", but that's not the point. Since "Terrorism" is a tactic, in order to call someone a "terrorist", you need to give that person a fair trial and prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the person in question did in fact use terrorist tactics. Bills like this give the US Government the ability to skip that step and classify someone as a "terrorist" arbitrarily without a fair trial, which is no different than giving the Executive branch the power to call someone a murderer and execute them on the spot. Once you start going down that path, the potential for abuse is catastrophic! Section 1031 needs to be removed. "
    • On November 30, 2011, by brianlarsen45 - Careful how you read this. It's written to make you think U.S. Citizens are protected. Senate Bill 1867, Section 1032(b) (b) Applicability to United States Citizens and Lawful Resident Aliens- (1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States. (2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States The Language says there’s no "REQUIREMENT", it doesn’t say they cannot detain or must "exclude". I cannot find another section, including all wording in 1031 that specifically excludes citizens.

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      As noted by brianlarsen45, a user on OpenCongress.org, on November 30, 2011, "Careful how you read this. It's written to make you think U.S. Citizens are protected. Senate Bill 1867, Section 1032(b) (b) Applicability to United States Citizens and Lawful Resident Aliens- (1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States. (2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States The Language says there’s no "REQUIREMENT", it doesn’t say they cannot detain or must "exclude". I cannot find another section, including all wording in 1031 that specifically excludes citizens."
    • On November 30, 2011, by RalphFucetolaJD - IMHO, a careful reading of 1031 and 12032 shows that, though pretending to protect US citizens, the law actually does the opposite. I write more about this in detail at: http://tinyurl.com/NoS-1867 1032 only "exempts" citizens from US military protection, mandating that the military turn-over citizens it may be holding for rendition as determined by the national executive. What it does is to make sure that members of US military will violate their Oath to defend the Constitution, including those provisions of the Bill of Rights protecting us from arbitrary executive power. This is yet another assault on the Constitution by the Bush/Obama right/left neocon cabal.

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      As noted by RalphFucetolaJD, a user on OpenCongress.org, on November 30, 2011, "IMHO, a careful reading of 1031 and 12032 shows that, though pretending to protect US citizens, the law actually does the opposite. I write more about this in detail at: http://tinyurl.com/NoS-1867 1032 only "exempts" citizens from US military protection, mandating that the military turn-over citizens it may be holding for rendition as determined by the national executive. What it does is to make sure that members of US military will violate their Oath to defend the Constitution, including those provisions of the Bill of Rights protecting us from arbitrary executive power. This is yet another assault on the Constitution by the Bush/Obama right/left neocon cabal."

    Highly Rated Blog Articles

    • S.1867 – National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 ... - July 30, 2012 by admin - Tell your Senators to Filibuster this pile of shit! S.1867 – National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012.

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      As noted by admin on July 30, 2012, "Tell your Senators to Filibuster this pile of shit! S.1867 – National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012." (/url?q=http://onpointpolitics.com/2012/07/s-1867-national-defense-authorization-act-for-fiscal-year-2012/&sa=U&ei=yL0XUMnxCoum8QTM9YGABA&ved=0CBsQmAEwAA&usg=AFQjCNFzN3BzLVMe7njrsP3aXC-V_buJvQ)
    • S.1867 – National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 ... - July 29, 2012 by admin - Tell your Senators to Filibuster this pile of shit! S.1867 – National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012.

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      As noted by admin on July 29, 2012, "Tell your Senators to Filibuster this pile of shit! S.1867 – National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012." (/url?q=http://onpointpolitics.com/2012/07/s-1867-national-defense-authorization-act-for-fiscal-year-2012/&sa=U&ei=EBsXULuPHIj68gTUuYFg&ved=0CBsQmAEwAA&usg=AFQjCNF9sw2w6xi3rwBQMduPWka2cDpluA)
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      As noted by admin on July 29, 2012, "Tell your Senators to Filibuster this pile of shit! S.1867 – National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012." (/url?q=http://onpointpolitics.com/2012/07/s-1867-national-defense-authorization-act-for-fiscal-year-2012/&sa=U&ei=fMQWUO-yF7PH6AGEn4GQBw&ved=0CBsQmAEwAA&usg=AFQjCNH7dl0qreAtdOZfoQV4ir_9_7xC1Q)

    Highly Rated News Articles

    • Hamilton County worker raises possible in this year's budget - May 30, 2012 by Chattanooga Times Free Press - This year, they're preparing to compensate the county's 1,867 workers, who haven't had a raise since the 2009 fiscal year, which began July 1, 2008. Coppinger will begin meeting individually with county commissioners next week to talk about his ...

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      As noted by Chattanooga Times Free Press on May 30, 2012, "This year, they're preparing to compensate the county's 1,867 workers, who haven't had a raise since the 2009 fiscal year, which began July 1, 2008. Coppinger will begin meeting individually with county commissioners next week to talk about his ..." (http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2012/may/30/hamilton-county-worker-raises-possible-in-this/?news)
    • Historic murals in spotlight after 7 decades - May 28, 2012 by madison - The vibrantly colorful paintings commemorate Talladega's 1867 founding as one of the country's first colleges established to serve newly freed slaves. Historical significance The first cycle of three murals, installed at the college's Savery Library on the

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      As noted by madison on May 28, 2012, "The vibrantly colorful paintings commemorate Talladega's 1867 founding as one of the country's first colleges established to serve newly freed slaves. Historical significance The first cycle of three murals, installed at the college's Savery Library on the" (http://host.madison.com/test/webfeeds/travel/historic-murals-in-spotlight-after-decades/article_bd34c749-0fb0-509e-bf74-cc70531feddc.html)
    • Graves: ‘NDAA amendment prohibits detaining Americans without due-process’ - May 21, 2012 by Examiner - On Friday afternoon, the U.S. House of Representatives passed the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) which includes a total of $369 million dollars in spending requests for both on base and civilian infrastructure projects on Guam. On Friday ..

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      As noted by Examiner on May 21, 2012, "On Friday afternoon, the U.S. House of Representatives passed the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) which includes a total of $369 million dollars in spending requests for both on base and civilian infrastructure projects on Guam. On Friday .." (http://www.examiner.com/article/graves-ndaa-amendment-prohibits-detaining-americans-without-due-process)
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