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Midweek Unemployment Extension Update

November 17, 2010 - by Donny Shaw

UPDATE 2: The bill failed, 258-154 (290 votes were needed under the rule). The Democrats can bring this up again for a vote under regular order (requiring only a simple majority for passage), but it will be subject to amendments and a Republican motion to recommit.

UPDATE: House Democrats have put a three-month unemployment extension on the calendar for a vote today (Thursday). Read up on the bill, add a comment, and place your vote here:

H.R. 6419 – Emergency Unemployment Compensation Continuation Act

The bill is being considered under the expedited “suspension of the rules” process, which does not allow for amendments or motions to recommit that could trip up the bill’s passage. However, it requires a 2/3rds supermajority, so the Democrats will need all their members plus 35 Republicans to vote in favor. The last time they tried to extend unemployment under suspension of the rules, they failed, 261-155. With the bill not having a revenue offset, passage is unlikely. But we’ll see…. Check back for updates.

Original post below…

If Congress doesn’t pass an extension of unemployment insurance benefits this week, the filing deadline will expire and the long-term unemployed will start seeing their insurance payments disappear. Two million will be left without government support by the end of the year. We’re now more than half way through the week, so what’s the status with Congress getting this done?

Speaker Nancy Pelosi [D, CA-8] says the House is planning to hold a vote on extending unemployment benefits sometime before the session is up. And today Democrats introduced a bill that would extend benefits for three months, essentially keeping benefits alive until early in the next, more heavily Republican, session. The real problem is the Senate, where there is currently no plan for holding a vote on extending benefits. Senate Democrats only have 58 votes for passing an extension (all D’s except Ben Nelson [NE] and no R’s), but they would need 60 votes to beat an inevitable Republican filibuster. So far, they can’t figure out a way to round up the last few votes.

One emerging strategy for getting this through the Senate seems to be doing the unemployment extension and the Bush tax cuts together in one bill. Some reports recently have suggested that a temporary extension of all of the Bush tax cuts could be linked to an unemployment extension, possibly for up to one year. Extended unemployment benefits and the Bush tax cuts for income above $250,000 both would add about $70 billion to the deficit annually, so it would be an ironic solution to an impasse that is based maily on concerns about the deficit. But I guess that’s compromise, or something. This strategy is probably the unemployed’s best chance for securing a longer extension than whatHouse Dems are proposing.

Either way, this is not going to get done before Congress leaves on Friday for their Thanksgiving vacation. That means benefits will lapse, at least temporarily, and people who exhaust their current benefits  tier will not be eligible for additional weeks.

On the exhaustee front, the news, unfortunately, is much worse. Dave Dayen reporting from a call with Sen. Jack Reed [D, RI]:

Reed basically closed the door on any Tier V funding above 99 weeks of unemployment. Large numbers of the unemployed fall into that long-term category. “Our focus is maintaining the current system, and even that is a real challenge,” Reed said.

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Comments

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    TheDutchess 11/19/2010 8:44am

    How many republicans voted for it?

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    Abaratarrr 11/20/2010 9:57am

    21

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    Flyover 12/03/2010 3:35am

    Republicans will vote for an extension WHEN Democrats agree to pull the money from unpaid stimulus money or reduce other programs.

    Listen, I am unemployed to. But my kids do not deserve what is headed their way.

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    Flyover 12/03/2010 4:26am

    TheDutchess…

    Your first mistake is believing anything Rachel Maddow says. Anything.
    Even CNN says that MSNBC is too far left.
    There is NO logic to any of her premises.

    Why is it so bad to reduce spending in other areas to pay for unemployment?
    And why does the left (almost everyone on this forum) cling to the thought that printing money (new unfunded spending) is good for ANY economy?

    It has wrecked nearly every European society.

  • Jess01869 11/18/2010 9:14am

    Republican’s are getting more greedy and evil than ever.

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    Flyover 12/03/2010 3:41am

    For acting responsibly with other people’s money?

    Evil because the Dems are not smart enough or disciplined enough to cultivate a garden for new jobs to grow?

    Greedy because they believe whoever earns their money should not have it confiscated and handed to someone who did not?

    It is the ones that EXPECT compensation only for the reason they exist that are greedy. Be grateful for the unemployment pay, but do not expect it or call people who do not pull it from someone else’s pocket and had to you as greedy.

  • joero 11/18/2010 1:32pm
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    HOW TO HELP the government, home owners, and economy. its simple offer people a lump sum buyout of unemployment benefits. wheres if they take the buyout they will never be eligible for unemployment compensation for the rest of their lives. the government will save a ton, people can payoff their homes, can cut probably 75% of jobs of people that work in the employment office, stimulate the economy. its a win, win situation.

  • BenjaWiz 11/18/2010 4:34pm

    IT’S NOT GOOD POLICY TO ENGAGE IN LONG TERM UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION AS OUR KIDS ARE IN DEBT ENOUGH. NO MORE TAX AND SPEND CONGRESS WAKE UP OR 2012 WILL BE ANOTHER BLOW.

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    Capinshea 11/21/2010 4:24pm

    Our kids are in debt from other unnessecary passed bills. I am not going to go through the long list, but here are just a couple. Healthcare Reform and a bridge for turtle crossing? Just one question, have you ever been unemployed? If you have, then you would know that your pay is cut more than half of what you were getting when you were working. It barely makes the bills, barely puts food on the table, does not leave anything to do, such as vacation or just take your kids to the movies. We don’t like being on unemployment, but it keeps our heads above water while still searching for work. Yes, we all have applied to entry level jobs still with no luck of getting hired. You shouldn’t bash all thoughs on unemployment. How come we never here anyone complain about thoughs who sit comfortably for years on assistance, such as welfare, food stamps, cash assistance, etc…. and never work. We are people who have worked for years and got stabbed in the back and have no where else to turn.

  • BenjaWiz 11/18/2010 4:40pm

    THE GOVERNMENT HAS GIVEN LOTS OF PEOPLE UNEMPLOYMENT CHECKS FOR A LONG TIME IF YOU DON’T WANT TO WORK AT A RETAIL STORE THAT’S YOUR PROBLEM BUT PLEASE WANTING THE GOVERNMENT TO SPEND MORE MONEY AND PUT OUR CHILDREN MORE IN DEBT HOW SELFISH IS THAT??? THINK ABOUT IT.

  • seanurse 11/19/2010 6:59am

    we all need to email senator snow to bring it up to attach s3706 to the tax bill that the rep want to be extended. They can only have the extension as long as unemployment gets extended. they both cost about the same. It s a win win wash. why these air heads are bringing up old stuff bets me. get with it guys or you will be next to go.

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    BenjaWiz 11/19/2010 2:30pm
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    How long do you suggest we go on with hand outs?

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    comments11660 11/20/2010 3:17am

    @bejawiz handouts? First of all these are hardly handouts you forget all of these people have worked hard all of their lives and secondly as long as this congress expects us to go without jobs you are an insensitive bafoon!

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    BenjaWiz 11/20/2010 12:30pm

    The very people you speak of have all received 99 weeks of unemployment and our debt is growing almost 14 trillion now how is it you can justify giving out more checks long term and racking up our country’s debt??? do you not understand basic economics? that all this debt will have to be paid back in higher taxes on the ones who already have jobs in this country as well as future workers I’m being fair here.

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    seanurse 11/20/2010 8:37am
    GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY THAT YOU MAY NEVER HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS IN YOUR LIFETIME. GOD ALWAYS WATCHES . FIRST HE GIVES YOU A LITTLE NUDGE FROM SOMEONE HES SENT YOU , THEN LIKE NOW HE SENDS ANOTHER SO MAYBE YOU’LL HERE HIM. THEN HE LETS YOU HAVE A THUNK IF YOU CAN’T HERE HIS WISHES. I WOULD SAY YOU ARE DIFFENTLY GETTING READY FOR HIS THUNK. GOD BLESS AND BE SAFE THIS HOLIDAY SEASON. BUT, IF YOU INSIST ON HAVING A TWISTED TONGUE AND DEAF EARS, PLEASE FIND ANOTHER SITE TO FLAP IN THE WIND, CAUSE GOOD PEOPLE AREN’T LISTENING TO GARBAGE.
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    BenjaWiz 11/20/2010 12:39pm

    If congress can offset the cost of unemployment checks with higher taxes and racking up debt and it’s paid with say funds left over from somewhere else then fine sure lets do it but still we got to find a solution to this potentially long term problem without running up more debt and raising taxes even higher in the future.

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    CuttieBiteMe 11/22/2010 8:36pm

    Spoken like a true dumb ass with a JOB. I have put in 352 online/in person applications and have received TWO interviews..TWO! I have been to every Staffing agency, Temp Agency, McDonald’s, Ross’s Dress For Less, Albertsons etc. only to have the two freaking words told to me OVER QUALIFIED. I lost benefits 6 weeks ago, and was LUCKY enough to get a temporaty job boxing books for the Christmas season… So don’t tell me there are JOBS out there that people are lazy and CHOOSE to be on Unemployment, because you don’t know SH#T of what your talking about. My boys will NOT have a Christmas this year because every penny I make for the next 3 weeks will have to go towards STOPPING an eviction!!!! I hope YOU GET LAID OFF…I hope you have to survive on $343 dollars a week and then have that TAKEN away from you too…Come talk to me then JackA$$!

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    seanurse 11/23/2010 7:22am

    I think you were replying to the person I replied to. Some how your reply was directing to me. I’m a 99er. please make sure you reply to the right person. go to their letter then hit reply.not on my reply. sorry for the mix up. god bless and have a great holiday if you have food to do so.

  • Jess01869 11/19/2010 7:18am

    Anyone read the article about the Canadian official who got Canada out of debt in 4 years? http://articles.cnn.com/2010-11-17/opinion/martin.cutting.deficit_1_national-debt-spending-cuts-pension-plan/6?_s=PM:OPINION

  • Jess01869 11/19/2010 7:31am

    Our Congress doesn’t work together, they work against each other…that’s why our economy is deteriorating. The Republican party wants to help the rich where help isn’t needed and the Democrats want to help the less fortunate…there is no happy medium and until they do work together there will be chaos and the economy will collapse. Seems to me, however, the Democrats try to compromise much more than the others and the Republicans don’t want to have anything to do with it.

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    BenjaWiz 11/19/2010 2:41pm

    Democrats are making the economy worse off by spending money for what?? It just goes to people cause they refuse to work retail or to the big banks and wall st. You can’t in the long term spend your way out of this mess and on top of that add debt on the backs of our kids and grand kids. When Obama and the Democrats bailed out wall st. I was very angry as I knew they would just keep the money and not lend it out but congress and the President were against the people when the majority of America said no Help Main St. 1st and let wall st. fight it’s own battles. I don’t agree with long term unemployment just like I don’t agree with bailout’s for to big to fail banks.

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    general 11/22/2010 5:27am

    Thats right give the wealthy unpaid for tax breaks and screw the working people by voting against UI extensions because they aren’t paid for the hypocrisy is unbelieveable and by the way the wallstreet bailout started with Bush want to talk about trickle down economics it dosent work UI benefits end less money spent before long anyone lucky enough to have a LIVING WAGE JOB not in a retail store or fast food Ect Ect which are NOT unless you are a teenager or living with mommy and daddy will be at risk of becoming unemployed its just a matter of time so keep talking your bullshit right to the unemployment office Also the Bush tax cuts that the republicans want to extend to the top 2 percent of wealthy has been in place since Bush and has not created a single job but in fact millions were lost during this Tax break wake up.

  • BenjaWiz 11/19/2010 2:44pm

    Obama and Congress needs to use other tactics to get these corps to hire again and solving the problem isn’t long term unemployment or bailouts.

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    santbemo 11/25/2010 8:25am

    What you suggest is to give tax breaks to those who have jobs and leave the ones without losing their homes. I’ve worked my whole life and Bush’s policies (War defense contracts and no Wall St regulation)are what have got us in this recession and could’ve been worse. What Dems have done for this country is for the people and not monetary gain for the rich. In 09’ I only worked for 2 months thanks to Bush I recieved a $400 tax rebate check. Thats what I get with one unemployment check. In 2010 I went back to my same employer because of the legislation Obama passed, rehiring laid off workers for my employer to receive their tax break for this year. I worked for 6 months then was laid off again, go figure. Now, with Rep’s holding a house majority and the brainwashed idiots like you. I will not recieve any more checks even though I’m in Teir one. So before you speak, why dont you listen to the real deal.

  • Jess01869 11/19/2010 7:54pm

    It was at one point unheard of for Congress NOT to pass unemployment extensions when the unemployment rate was at 7.2 and now it at 9.6! Unemployment benefits have proven to stimulate the economy and right now is the wrong time to cut them off. 2 million people nearing toward welfare isn’t going to help the economy by any means. This extension is needed to help struggling individuals and families. I myself found a job a few months after being on unemployment and was later on laid off. I am now at the point where I can’t afford to keep my utilities on let alone pay my rent. I look for work, I anticipate a call back and soon I won’t be able to even keep my phone on. There are already whole families much worse off. The unemployment extension should be passed without question. For those who falsely accuse people that need it, of just looking for a “hand out” should know it is no luxury to be stripped to not even having enough money for the bare necessities. This issue needs more support.

  • seanurse 11/20/2010 8:54am

    TO ALL THE MEMBERS OF THIS BLOG. ALL OF US WHO HAVE BEEN BLOGGING SINCE THIS BEGAN OVER TWO YEARS AGO KNOW WHO THE REGULARS ARE. ANSWERING THEM JUST WASTE OUR TIME. PLEASE LETS ALL GET BACK TO SOLVING OUR PROBLEMS AND NOT LISTINING TO IDIOTS. ALSO DONT FORGET YOU CAN BLOCK PEOPLE WITH A VOTE.GOD BLESS AND HERES HOPING WE ALL CAN HAVE A NICE THANKSGIVING. IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER WE CAN ALL SAY WE ARE THANKFUL FOR SOMETHING. STAY POSITIVE AND SAFE……………

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    seanurse 11/20/2010 8:58am

    SORRY FOR TYPO ABOVE. i MEAN DONT WASTE YOUR TIME RESPONDING TO NEW PEOPLE WHO WE KNOW ARE NOT REGULARS. AND WHO HAVE TWISTED TONGUES. I DO BELIEVE THAT WHAT GOES AROUND WILL EVENTUALLY COME AROUND.

  • vote4whoandwhy 11/20/2010 2:04pm

    I was blown away by how many republicans were elected in many states! With so many 99ers, we, the 99ers, could have kept the “Rescrublicans” out of the equation, BUT WHAT HAPPENED?? I went out, as tired, sick, and fed up (not to mention broke and had to scrape up three dollars for gas to get to the polls, but I made it). I voted Democrat. I think many 99ers just gave up and didn’t even vote. The Rescrubs don’t care and those “Demoscraps” who opposed the extension did so for personal political gain. I have one thing to say to the “Rescrubs” and the “Demoscraps” who have opposed and still do oppose any form of extension for the 99ers and those soon to be, I HOPE YOU CHOKE ON YOUR TURKEY!

  • beenblue 11/20/2010 2:22pm

    Just a thought: I`m pretty sure that we are living in the United States of Amnesia, and the mid terms support my thinking. Here we are bickering over where to get money to pay for all the programs that are needed to help us maintain and grow our society, and the politicians are using words to confuse, and disguise their twisted agenda, and to get you to solemnly vote against your best interests. Nearly every major politician in the the United States is paid for by what is known as “the defense industry.” That is why close to 90 percent of the government`s income is wasted on “defense.” We are armed to the teeth, and spend more on “symbols of our fear” than all the nations of the world combined. We don`t live in a nation anymore, we live in HOMELAND, and all our rights on both sides of the political fence are being violated as we become Imperial America, and spread our will over the earth in military bases, and the cost to maintain them. This campaign of FEAR is destroying us.

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    Michael0117 11/24/2010 10:03am

    I don’t think the issue of campaign contributions by the defense industry is talked about nearly enough. Democrats and members of the press seem to look past the fact that republicans in congress are basically employees of the defense contractors, completely unwilling to lower defense spending. Why? Because it will hurt the pockets of their largest contributors and ultimately leaves them without the resources to get reelected. Republicans in congress couldn’t care less about the average, hard-working American. They care about serving their self interests and the interests of the people who put them in power. There is no justifiable reason to spend what we spend per year on “defense”…. It’s a joke and so is our country. I’ve never felt less proud to be an American. Ever.

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