H.R.3012 - Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act

To amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to eliminate the per-country numerical limitation for employment-based immigrants, to increase the per-country numerical limitation for family-sponsored immigrants, and for other purposes. view all titles (4)

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  • Official: To amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to eliminate the per-country numerical limitation for employment-based immigrants, to increase the per-country numerical limitation for family-sponsored immigrants, and for other purposes. as introduced.
  • Short: Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act as introduced.
  • Short: Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2011 as reported to house.
  • Short: Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2011 as passed house.

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bayboy007 10/21/2011 8:16pm

I am surprised how this “quota based on country of origin” in employment category has managed to exist in the law for so long. Can employers limit hiring based on “country of origin”? If not, then no other law related to employment should have this limit.

dalars 10/21/2011 8:35pm
in reply to stanthecaddy Oct 15, 2011 7:51pm

This bill is to bring in IT techs and engineers and scientists from India and Pakistan, who speak and read our language but earn HALF of what we do!
Train Americans to do it.
Help them move to where the work IS!

remya712 11/03/2011 6:06pm
in reply to PaulSiraisi Oct 23, 2011 8:07pm

Country you like better makes no sense here – that is discrimination. So basically a person from Iraq, Afghanistan or Pakistan can get a green card in a year or less, while a person from India or china has to wait for 7-10 years. So does that mean you like the former countries better?

employment based GCs should be based only on job skills may they screen better for those skills instead of limiting by screening for country of birth.

pragms 10/21/2011 9:06am
in reply to stanthecaddy Oct 15, 2011 7:51pm

The employment category is based on skill not based on country; the barrier doesn’t make sense at all.

mseker 10/21/2011 2:08pm

Sorry I am not supporting this one. It only benefits EB3-I and would retrogress all other categories. I voted against it.

pragms 10/21/2011 9:08am
in reply to waitingfgc Oct 20, 2011 12:55pm

In same situation, thanks to Rep who is fighting for us like.

LegalEB 10/21/2011 9:10pm
in reply to dalars Oct 21, 2011 8:40pm

Just want to remind you that no corporations are helped here, just honest, hard working legal immigrants who pay State/federal/Social security taxes are waiting for more than 10 years. These people have contributed to the economy by buying cars, spending in the mall ( my wife does a lot :)) etc. So, it is wrong to say corporations are helped here.

octavius_20 11/07/2011 7:25pm

Support this bill folks. Here’s an analogy of what you’re going to fix if you pass this bill:

Telling a highly skilled immigrant that they have to wait several decades longer because of national origin is no different than telling a black man that he has to wait several hours longer to get into a restaurant because of the color of his skin. This bill will fix the system so that highly skilled immigrants get judged on the skills, qualifications, and accomplishments they bring to this country. US employers don’t discriminate by national origin and neither should the US employment-based immigration system. Support this bill.

SamFriend 11/29/2011 3:25pm

The modified speech:

“Let us not wallow in the valley of despair, I say to you today, my friends.

And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal (regardless of their race, origin etc.).”

I have a dream that one day on the silicon valley, all the talents from all countries will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood solving our nation’s critical problems, helping humanity along with our fellow U.S. Citizens.

I have a dream that our children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged for the employment by the country of their birth but by the content of their character, talents, and skills.

I have a dream today! This is our hope, & this is the faith that I go back to the Washington with."

rahulkimmi 10/28/2011 9:59am

This is a right step in the right direction after so long! There are countless bright and hardworking immigrants from India and China who pay taxes and contribute to the economy but are left unsettled by the status of their green cards just because of the country of the origin. I know of many people who are stuck with their employers and cannot get promotion or a salary raise while the person from another immigrant country does not have to go through this because they get their green cards faster. Imagine the plight of the person who has to go to India/china for some family emergency but still has to go through the visa stamping process and if the US consulate rejects he is stuck there. These are issues that a lot of people outside of the India/China immigrant community has not probably dealt with. This bill is a long time due…please support and pass this bill!!!

nextgenimmi 11/08/2011 12:23pm
in reply to vishalbalchandani Oct 28, 2011 8:05am

vishalbalchandani – That’s complete baloney ;). This bill is trying to clear the existing backlog in a phased manner. These folks already have jobs.Sure, diversity is always needed and is very important. So using that very same argument, why is there a preference for medical graduates? Why do foreign-born medical graduates have different laws? Do you not need engineers?

As someone mentioned earlier in these blogs, there’s a diversity category that takes care of this. India/China are not eligible for this category.

But again I wonder, you don’t mind folks driving cabs in NewYork, who might get there using the very same diversity program. But you mind folks getting their green-cards(in an expedited fashion) who already have jobs?

nextgenimmi 11/08/2011 12:42pm
in reply to vishalbalchandani Oct 28, 2011 9:37am

There’s something called a L-visa. For the last few years US-consulates have become much stricter and are asking overseas corporations to bring-in folks on a L1-visa. Many corps(goog/msft/jpmc/ibm/etc) get their folks on L1.

Going forward, H1-B should be issued only to folks who have graduated here in the US. Period. And green cards should be alloted to those same incumbents who have had jobs for atleast 3 years etc. Look at the bill proposed by Sen Schummer et al.

But this is for future work. Not for us who are in the queue for 5+ years.

In future please do your homework before posting red herring comments here ;).

rahulkimmi 10/28/2011 10:00am

Country of origin should have no place in an employment based immigration system. It’s surprising that this discrimination has been going on for so long. Employers care about skills and merit, not where you were born. It’s about time these country limits are removed!

raminia 02/02/2012 11:33am
in reply to rahulkimmi Nov 10, 2011 6:07pm

This bill neither makes the immigration system fair for everyone nor makes America more competitive. Please read to the end to understand why. This bill makes it easier for Chinese and Indians to get a green card and makes it harder for the rest of the world. In other words, it makes US immigration less attractive to the whole world except China and India by forcing the applicants of the all countries to go behind a long queue and wait for years. This makes India and China dominant immigrant exporters in the skilled worker category, and creates a true monopoly (85%). Let me give you an example to understand the problem with this bill: Why in the US presidential election, the states use the system of delegates instead of a single general election? Because of the possibility of the dominance by populated states over the rest of the country. This is unfair and the US does not do that. The same arguments works for this bill and clarifies its unfairness.

debug 10/27/2011 6:00pm

With millions of unemployed Americans why do we need to flood the job market with more cheap foreign workers. Help Americans, your citizens first before foreigners.

DrGeneNelson 03/21/2012 1:52am

Look at the big money that is attempting to procure passage of this bill. One pair of names that jumps out is Microsoft and their proxy, the Business Software Alliance. If this bill passes, populous nations such as India and China will dominate employment-based green cards. What this bill does is to make H-1B Visas from China or India worth more, since a key incentive is U.S. citizenship, which employers like Microsoft are monetizing for immigrants. Of course, the millions of Americans whose technology careers are trashed by the importation of hordes of “fresh young blood” are ignored by the elites. At the root of this legislation is political corruption. See my 2007 report, The Greedy Gates Immigration Gambit and my 2005 report American Colleges Have Become Career Destruction Factories You will learn that corrupt lobbyist Jack A. Abramoff & his team were hired by Microsoft in 1994. Let’s put Americans back to work. NO to HR3012 !

goksam 11/23/2011 8:22am

This bill freezes the processing of applicants of the other 185+ countries for the next 3 years so that Indian applicants (the most backlogged) can catch up. As per the recent visa bulletin Employment Based category 3 (EB3 : one that requires a bachelors degree) from India have been in line for 9 years while the rest of the world EB3 have been waiting for 5-6 years. This bill will be retroactively award India and China applicants 85% of the pie and leave only 15% for all other countries. So all the other 185+ countries applicants WILL pay (by being tagged an additional 4 years wait) because India and China is overrepresented. This bill bites hard to all the other countries!!! Why 85%? Why not 60%? India and China already gets the unused visas from the rest of the world.

Proponents of this bill compare apples to oranges by comparing EB2 category from other countries to the heavily backlogged EB3 of India thus confusing people.

India and China benefits ALL other countries loose = FAIR

venna 12/01/2011 10:10am

I want to buy a house but cannot because i am from a backlogged countries,I know many people who wants to buy houses cannot becuase they are uncertain about their future and are waiting for more than 6 to 7 years.

santosh_dallas 10/21/2011 5:22pm

Pl remove this race and country of origin quota from the system. Though this will hurt some country and advantage some country but quota doesn’t bring fairness to the system. Time to rethink for congress and take decision so that people waiting in line can decide for their future.

JohnAdams77 10/24/2011 4:53pm

Please vote NO.

This bill does not solve the employment based immigration retrogression issue. This bill is basically just moving the problem from the left pocket to the right pocket. HR 3012 will only takes green cards from ROW (Rest of the World) and give them to Indian immigrants. What we need is visa recapture/increase employment based green cards.

rnatesan21 11/07/2011 12:38pm

Please pass this bill. It is good for the US economy.

jpauche 01/12/2012 4:04pm
in reply to 4candid Jan 11, 2012 11:06pm

What about the H1B fraud that indian consultant firms are doing. People dont even have jobs but they file the H1B and sponsor them in EB2. How can we stop that? Why do we need more fraud Indian people and stop people from rest of the world coming to US.

Americafirst 02/01/2012 8:19pm

The last thing AMERICA needs is MORE FOREIGN SCUM in USA. We cant seem to get rid of the FOREIGN CRIMINALS we have now!! We sure as hell dont need more of them! We lose 80,000 USA jobs per month to the legal foreigners alone!
My citizenship matters! When it does not – its civil war time!

New law- any US citizen can take a foreigners job at any time.

ashishyaduka 10/21/2011 2:29pm
in reply to waitingfgc Oct 20, 2011 12:55pm

There are many like you my friends. I will buy one house to live and another vacation timeshare house tomorrow if I have the GC. There are 3 other friends of mine who are in the same boat. Passing of this bill will give a significant jolt to the economy.

icab 10/25/2011 8:16am

I’m writing to express my opposition to this bill. I believe the overall idea of the US allowing foreign immigrant workers to work in the United States is 1) fulfill the shortage of highly-skilled employees in various sectors and, equally important, 2) to bring further knowledge and culture from different parts of the world into the US. Given that this bill does not change the number of visas available, it will maintain goal #1 while hindering goal #2. Only a very limited number of countries will benefit from this while a very large majority of countries will be negatively impacted. Please do not support this bill.

nextgenimmi 11/06/2011 8:36am
in reply to PaulSiraisi Oct 23, 2011 8:07pm

country we like better? Again, marines flushed out oSama from which country? please get your facts straight. Talk to any employer and they will tell you that their hiring criteria is strictly based on merits. Just so you know, the guys waiting in green-card queue already have jobs. Remember the two young graduates from IIT,India that cracked the prime-number(in deterministic time) defactoring algorithm. Point us to one noble-worthy ideas from ‘countries you like better’?

ak_gumpina 10/31/2011 5:32pm

For people who are opposing, I am just one of many examples of how unfair the current system is. 12th year in this country, 9th year in green card queue and still 5 to 10 years to go before I see my green card.

This bill is very simple. No changes to limits, No changes to requirements, No No to discrimination. This bill simply implements “Queue = First Come First Serve” rule while issuing Employment based Green Cards. By the way, how come a Korean or Finnish employee with same skills set be more valuable than an Indian or Chinese employee? Companies always say they are equal opportunity employer.

All of those who are waiting in the queue are very high skilled, highly educated, and highly paid “legal” workers working for biggest and brightest companies here in the US.

PASS the bill ASAP.

octavius_20 11/08/2011 1:53am
in reply to Lzoccoli Oct 27, 2011 1:03pm

Lzoccoli – your assessment of this bill is wrong. The quota for employment-based immigrants makes up no more than 15% of the total legal immigrant quota. The other 85% still has “per country limits” to maintain “diversity” of incoming immigrants. All this bill does is removes the per country limit for the employment-based immigration category (again, that category is less than 15% of the total legal immigrant quota). So as such, this bill will eliminate the discrimination by national origin of employment-based immigrants without adversely impacting overall “diversity” of incoming immigrants. If you don’t understand the math, I’d recommend visualizing a pie chart and applying what I have said above.

SamFriend 11/11/2011 6:22pm

Why the progress of this bill is taking so long, even when Committee of Judiciary experts passed it by Voice Vote for voting in House? My understanding is that, at committee level it takes time, considering, it takes time to analyze the matter by experts, and now that the analysis is done and ready, it should be straight decision making by House and by Senate? Why they are unnecessarily delaying the process? This bill (which is time-critical) hanging there from September. It has been 2 months now and no major progress, yet, eitheway ! ? !

Ajscott123 11/16/2011 10:25am
in reply to PGW182 Oct 17, 2011 10:04am

I would agree. Additionally, however, I think it is equally important to be concerned and invested in the rapid improvement of our education system.


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